Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-24 Thread Gary - K7EK via wsjt-devel
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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-24 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Another horrible article by a "science writer".  No references and the article 
itself says "not expected to be overly powerful"...apparently not even power 
enough for NOAA to pay any attention to it.
I'm reminded of Chicken Little

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Solar winds happen all the time.  Where did you see a warning about this?
NOAA doesn't show any alerts
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/notifications-timeline
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 STREAM of solar wind is approaching Earth and experts fear it could hit us as 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-24 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel

Solar winds happen all the time.  Where did you see a warning about this?
NOAA doesn't show any alerts
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/notifications-timeline
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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-24 Thread n2lo

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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-21 Thread Joe Taylor

On 11/21/2018 12:08 AM, jarmo OH1MRR wrote:


Some months ago we said "The existing FT8 DXpedition mode will still
be supported, and a more powerful DXpedition mode may be offered as
well." We have not yet done serious work on the potentially "more
powerful mode". -- Joe, K1JT


As during VP6D, was seen, that they used 9 slots! 


As far as I know, VP6D used WSJT-X v1.9.1.  The maximum number of slots 
is 5.



When they CQ'ed, using
only one signal, signal was example -7, great, send my call, next lost
them totally, because they answered to 9 stations. I saw only slot
frames, but no decoding information. Someone, who had better antennas,
told me, that they are answering to me, no see...
I could copy, when they answered with 4 slots and fortunately got
qso. 


So, maybe limiting slots to some lower or to documentation some
words for dx, when propagation is bad, don't use more than 3-4 slots
max.


It's easy for Fox to limit the number of slots in use, and good 
operators quickly learn when to do this.


-- 73, Joe, K1JT


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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-20 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Actually a couple of off-the-top ideas if the new/improved Fox mode doesn't 
make it into V2.0 (sounds like it won't) just to prompt some more fully fleshed 
ideas...
#1 Limit the power on CQ calls to the power for the # of slots selected.  So if 
the Fox wants 5 slots it always uses 5-slot power levels.  Then the DXpedition 
can start out at high # of slots and reduce as things quiet downor perhaps 
some automated reduction in # of slots based on usage of the # of slots.
#2 Limit the power when replying to calls to the last # of slots used.  So if 
the Fox used 3 slots on the last transmission and is replying to anybody it 
just received than it uses no less than 3 slot power until it's "done".

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On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:12:25 PM CST, jarmo  
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 Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:37:02 -0500
Joe Taylor  kirjoitti:


> On 11/20/2018 11:51 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> > It was mentioned a while ago that changes would be made to the Fox
> > mode to avoid the power loss for multiple QSOs going on.

> Some months ago we said "The existing FT8 DXpedition mode will still
> be supported, and a more powerful DXpedition mode may be offered as
> well." We have not yet done serious work on the potentially "more
> powerful mode". -- Joe, K1JT

As during VP6D, was seen, that they used 9 slots! When they CQ'ed, using
only one signal, signal was example -7, great, send my call, next lost
them totally, because they answered to 9 stations. I saw only slot
frames, but no decoding information. Someone, who had better antennas,
told me, that they are answering to me, no see...
I could copy, when they answered with 4 slots and fortunately got
qso.
So, maybe limiting slots to some lower or to documentation some
words for dx, when propagation is bad, don't use more than 3-4 slots
max.

Jarmo 


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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-20 Thread jarmo
Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:37:02 -0500
Joe Taylor  kirjoitti:


> On 11/20/2018 11:51 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> > It was mentioned a while ago that changes would be made to the Fox
> > mode to avoid the power loss for multiple QSOs going on.

> Some months ago we said "The existing FT8 DXpedition mode will still
> be supported, and a more powerful DXpedition mode may be offered as
> well." We have not yet done serious work on the potentially "more
> powerful mode". -- Joe, K1JT

As during VP6D, was seen, that they used 9 slots! When they CQ'ed, using
only one signal, signal was example -7, great, send my call, next lost
them totally, because they answered to 9 stations. I saw only slot
frames, but no decoding information. Someone, who had better antennas,
told me, that they are answering to me, no see...
I could copy, when they answered with 4 slots and fortunately got
qso.
So, maybe limiting slots to some lower or to documentation some
words for dx, when propagation is bad, don't use more than 3-4 slots
max.

Jarmo 


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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-20 Thread Joe Taylor

Hi Mike,

On 11/20/2018 11:51 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
It was mentioned a while ago that changes would be made to the Fox mode 
to avoid the power loss for multiple QSOs going on.


Has this been done?  rc4 still points to the old DXpedition guide.


The only change made to FT8 DXpedition Mode is to upgrade it to using 
77-bit messages.  User operation for both Fox and Hound is unchanged.


Some months ago we said "The existing FT8 DXpedition mode will still be 
supported, and a more powerful DXpedition mode may be offered as well."

We have not yet done serious work on the potentially "more powerful mode".
-- Joe, K1JT


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[wsjt-devel] DXPedition changes?

2018-11-20 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
It was mentioned a while ago that changes would be made to the Fox mode to 
avoid the power loss for multiple QSOs going on.
Has this been done?  rc4 still points to the old DXpedition guide.

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