Re: [X2Go-User] Problems after upgrading to recent x2go-server and x2go client releases

2018-03-08 Thread Mihai Moldovan
* On 03/08/2018 07:52 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:
> Could we change the mouse cursor over the sensitive area, maybe?  Or,
> undo the change and go back to a fully sensitive tile, but change the
> mouse cursor once it hovers over an editable field?

The problem isn't visual indication and changing the mouse cursor thus wouldn't
help. The fields are already highlighted when hovering over them, which gives
the same visual clue changing the cursor would.

The problem is human accuracy, as demonstrated by Fitts's Law. Pointing accuracy
decreases as the distance to or size of the target increase. Typically, the
distance is pretty high, so users often over- or undershoot the target box, even
if by just a few pixels.


Decreasing the sensitive area totally makes sense - I've had requests for this
from multiple users and my personal experience is also that it was frustrating
to change settings directly in the tiles before since every and now and then you
ended up starting the session instead of changing a setting.


I'd generally advise to trigger sessions by clicking a pointer near the session
icon (or in any area horizontally or vertically from it).


Mihai



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Re: [X2Go-User] Problems after upgrading to recent x2go-server and x2go client releases

2018-03-08 Thread Stefan Baur
Am 08.03.2018 um 19:38 schrieb Mihai Moldovan:
>> On the client side, I upgraded to the 4.1.1.1 from 4.1.0.0 and experienced 
>> some
>> issues. I have to click on the outside/top-right edge of the session panel 
>> for
>> the login session window to appear. Any thing closer to the middle, and it 
>> won't
>> respond.
> This is not an issue, but an often requested new feature. I've changed the
> click-sensitive area to an upside-down L shape around the session settings 
> that
> can be modified within the tile. Actually like this, where "s" denotes a
> click-sensitive area:
> 
>  ___
> |sss|
> |sss|
> |sss|
> |sss|
> |sss|
> |sss|
>  ---
> 
> The problem so far has been that users can normally edit some exposed settings
> within a tile, but doing so proved to be very difficult since an incorrect 
> click
> triggered a session startup instead of changing a setting, which was happening
> quite often.
> 
> The sensitive area isn't small and figuring that out shouldn't take long
> usually, so I guess you've just been unlucky to always click on the right hand
> side which is typically insensitive but in the upper part.

Could we change the mouse cursor over the sensitive area, maybe?  Or,
undo the change and go back to a fully sensitive tile, but change the
mouse cursor once it hovers over an editable field?

Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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Re: [X2Go-User] Problems after upgrading to recent x2go-server and x2go client releases

2018-03-08 Thread Mihai Moldovan
* On 03/07/2018 07:34 PM, h i wrote:
> I've been experiencing problems with opening applications and resizing my x2go
> client window after installing the newest version x2go-server.
> 
> 
> The issues occurs on Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04.
> 
> 
> What happens now is that every time I maximize my x2go-client window, the 
> images
> on screen rapidly flicker and won't stop until I minimize the screen.

The flickering is a known problem, but as far as we can tell only appears on
Windows (and even then not with all X servers, but prominently with VcXsrv, that
we bundle). It's tracked here: 
https://github.com/ArcticaProject/nx-libs/issues/600


> Also, each time I move the window, a quick flicker occurs across the screen.
Probably related to the move being something alike to a resize and thus also
triggering the new xinerama code.


> This never occurred before this new release.

There is no known workaround currently, though it might be possible to just
ignore multiple resize events in nxagent if the requested size doesn't change.
We'll have to see how that goes.


> On the client side, I upgraded to the 4.1.1.1 from 4.1.0.0 and experienced 
> some
> issues. I have to click on the outside/top-right edge of the session panel for
> the login session window to appear. Any thing closer to the middle, and it 
> won't
> respond.

This is not an issue, but an often requested new feature. I've changed the
click-sensitive area to an upside-down L shape around the session settings that
can be modified within the tile. Actually like this, where "s" denotes a
click-sensitive area:

 ___
|sss|
|sss|
|sss|
|sss|
|sss|
|sss|
 ---

The problem so far has been that users can normally edit some exposed settings
within a tile, but doing so proved to be very difficult since an incorrect click
triggered a session startup instead of changing a setting, which was happening
quite often.

The sensitive area isn't small and figuring that out shouldn't take long
usually, so I guess you've just been unlucky to always click on the right hand
side which is typically insensitive but in the upper part.


> I also get a pop-up message about the sound that I had not experienced
> with previous versions.

What does the Popup say? Was it unable to start PulseAudio? Is there any way to
reproduce that?

If possible, a debug log would be good to have, including the PA server config
file that is left somewhere in your user's directory when starting the debug
version of the client.

You'd have to install the debug version and start it in a command line terminal,
redirecting output to a file, such as:

path\to\x2goclient.debug.exe --debug >
by\your\user\writeable\path\x2goclient-debug.log 2>&1


> Once logged into a session, the flickering resulting
> from moving/maximizing the window is much worse.
> 
> Fortunately, I was able to revert back to x2go-client 4.1.0.0.

Huh, the flickering should be always the same, whether a session has been
started with 4.1.1.1 or 4.1.0.0. Though, potentially there could be a
difference: versions prior to 4.1.1.1 won't be able to utilize the Xinerama
feature in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0, so when connecting with older client versions
Xinerama will always be disabled in nxagent.


> However,is there a way to revert back to this previous version/configuration
> of x2goserver. Right now, it is has been a lot of flickering while to trying 
> to
> do routine tasks with the current release.

That's what the Saimaa release is for. You'll have to switch repositories and
make sure to pin the release.

After doing so, you should be following issue reports that affect you and
eventually switch back to the stable server release, since Saimaa is not getting
any bug fixes or new features, apart from security-related issues.



Mihai



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[X2Go-User] Problems after upgrading to recent x2go-server and x2go client releases

2018-03-08 Thread h i
Hello,


I've been experiencing problems with opening applications and resizing my x2go 
client window after installing the newest version x2go-server.


The issues occurs on Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04.


What happens now is that every time I maximize my x2go-client window, the 
images on screen rapidly flicker and won't stop until I minimize the screen.


Also, each time I move the window, a quick flicker occurs across the screen.


This never occurred before this new release.


I have a few systems with the current x2go verison installed, here is the 
output:


x2goversion
x2goserver: 4.1.0.0
x2goserver-common: 4.1.0.0
x2goserver-extensions: 4.1.0.0
x2goserver-fmbindings: 4.1.0.0
x2goserver-printing: 4.1.0.0
x2goserver-x2goagent: 3.5.99.14
x2goserver-xsession: 4.1.0.0



We have another system running x2go server, but have yet to update it due to 
the problems we've experienced.  Here is the output of the previous version we 
are running without the issues:


x2goversion
x2goagent: 3.5.0.33
x2goserver: 4.0.1.22
x2goserver-extensions: 4.0.1.22
x2goserver-xsession: 4.0.1.22


On the client side, I upgraded to the 4.1.1.1 from 4.1.0.0 and experienced some 
issues. I have to click on the outside/top-right edge of the session panel for 
the login session window to appear. Any thing closer to the middle, and it 
won't respond. I also get a pop-up message about the sound that I had not 
experienced with previous versions. Once logged into a session, the flickering 
resulting from moving/maximizing the window is much worse.

Fortunately, I was able to revert back to x2go-client 4.1.0.0.


However,is there a way to revert back to this previous version/configuration of 
x2goserver. Right now, it is has been a lot of flickering while to trying to do 
routine tasks with the current release.


Any insight would be appreciated.


Thanks.


H.


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