Re: [X2Go-User] OSX/windows keyboards?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Mihai Moldovan wrote: > Hi Les, > > > On 07.04.2015 07:57 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> When I start a remote linux session from an OSX client, then >> disconnect and pick up the session from a windows client, the screen >> seems OK but the keyboard input is garbage. I thought I had that >> problem a long time ago and then it was fixed. Do the client >> versions have to stay in sync? And is there some way to reset the >> keyboard type to fix it and continue the session? > > The OS X client is synchronizing the keyboard layout by fetching the > output of xmodmap on OS X and passing it to the remote session once > every few seconds. If the Windows client is not overriding this on > resuming by some means (I currently do not know the default behavior of > the Windows-specific code), I'd expect the mappings to be wrong. > > Aside from that, keeping the client versions close (or rather: using the > newest version) is generally a good idea. > > Maybe you just need to force a keyboard layout in the session settings > on the Windows machine? Note that those options are not available in the > OS X client due to the automatic synchronization via xmodmap anymore. Thanks, but it doesn't seem to make a difference whether I have the windows client keyboard setting at automatic or configured as pc105/us. It still sends garbage to the session started by the OSX client. On a positive note, though, the Windows 4.0.3.2 client no longer has a conflict with the 'synergy' keyboard/mouse sharing program I use. With earlier x2go client versions the mouse cursor would just disappear when it was supposed to move off the edge of the desktop monitor and take control of the adjacent computer. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
[X2Go-User] OSX/windows keyboards?
When I start a remote linux session from an OSX client, then disconnect and pick up the session from a windows client, the screen seems OK but the keyboard input is garbage. I thought I had that problem a long time ago and then it was fixed. Do the client versions have to stay in sync? And is there some way to reset the keyboard type to fix it and continue the session? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Questions about sessions
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Mihai Moldovan wrote: > > For my use case, I want the terminals and applications to be independent > from each other and I don't really use a desktop session or browser > regularly. > > > This use case is totally different from your thinclient-like use case. > And that's fine. You want integration, I want isolation. X2Go is > supposed to support both. We really try to satisfy all > reasonable/generic use cases. Yes, it just seems odd to me to use multiple x2go sessions as the same user instead of a window manager or desktop environment - or for that matter, to do things differently than you would if you were logged in at the physical console. But my point is just that I'd like to see the 'extra' steps to connect minimized as much as possible and to make picking up running sessions on a different client as easy as it was with NX. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Questions about sessions
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote: >> > >> > I agree with Mihai, that it is awkward, landing in a session that one >> > maybe does not want. I often run multiple sessions of the same desktop >> > type for the same user. >> >> Don't you run into trouble with applications clobbering their own >> hidden files or things like firefox launching what you expected to be >> a new instance as a window in one of the suspended sessions instead? >> And when reconnecting, how do you distinguish which session you want? > > The simple answer is: I use PyHoca-GUI. That makes things much easier. > > And, I am good at remembering session Ids and numbers. I guess the thing I am really missing is 'why'? I use x2go as a substitute for sitting at an X console and can't think of a reason why I'd want to plug in another real console on the same machine to log in as the same user. Is there some advantage to concurrent sessions that you wouldn't get from Gnome's virtual screens or similar approaches to clutter reduction? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Questions about sessions
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > I agree with Mihai, that it is awkward, landing in a session that one maybe > does not want. I often run multiple sessions of the same desktop type for > the same user. Don't you run into trouble with applications clobbering their own hidden files or things like firefox launching what you expected to be a new instance as a window in one of the suspended sessions instead? And when reconnecting, how do you distinguish which session you want? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Questions about sessions
sed to be started only once, yes. > > There are valid reasons for multiple sessions, though, as outlined > above. I can't say how widespread those use cases are, though. It may be > only me, in the worst case, and I acknowledge that. I can see having an option to force a new session even if one exists - and maybe it makes sense in the context of single-application windows if you want to manage them the hard way. But, I'd just like to minimize the extra steps you have to do to start up a client - and my scenario will almost always be connecting to an already-running Gnome or MATE desktop where I may or may not have forgotten to disconnect another client and the client where I am now may have different screen geometry. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Questions about sessions
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Mihai Moldovan wrote: > On 03.03.2015 03:36 PM, Michael DePaulo wrote: >> I feel awkward asking these since I am a developer. >> >> 1. What are the differences between a session that is "suspend" and a >> session that is "running" but disconnected? > > A suspended session has been gracefully suspended within the client. > > A running session could either be an active one currently used, or one > that is still waiting for a timeout of the client crashed or the > connection was dropped prematurely for any reason. > Running sessions should switch into suspended state after a (rather > long?) timeout. > > You cannot attach to running sessions, but you can forcefully suspend a > running session from the client and then attach to it. Is there some reason for that? I preferred the NX/freenx approach where the new connection would automatically grab the existing session (since you obviously wouldn't be trying to reconnect if you already had a running client on the computer you are currently using). > If there is a suspended session, there multiple two cases: > 1.) the session you currently want to start matches the already > existing, suspended session (same settings, including the > "application"/"desktop" to start) => this session will then be attached > to without prior notification, you will NOT see the session list beforehand > 2.) the session to start matches a "running" session on the server. > You will be presented with the list (and able to forcefully suspend the > running session, if that's what you're after.) > 3.) the new session differs in session setting details. In this case, > you will get the session list. > > I don't like this, because it's inconvenient if you explicitly want to > start a new session with the same characteristics. In my opinion, the > session list should always be provided if one session (no matter the > settings or state) is running on the server. I disagree - I _always_ want to reconnect to my existing session, across different clients and I'd rather not have to do unnecessary work suspending/retrying or picking one session from a list of one just because my laptop and mac screen sizes don't match my windows desktop where the session was likely started. If you are going to change this behavior, can you please make it configurable so people who only start one desktop session per host can always reconnect without extra confusion, including automatically grabbing the session you forgot to suspend before leaving your desk? Aside from always wanting access to my same set of open windows and long-running programs, I've had problems with some desktop environments and GUI applications with concurrent sessions for the same user. Some of them maintain hidden files that don't handle concurrent updates gracefully, and some (like firefox) may try to open a new instance as a new window in an already running session (which may not be the one you are displaying).So - starting a new session if you already have one just seems wrong, especially if the session is of the same desktop environment type. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] CentOS7/EPEL package?
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Robert Dinse wrote: > > Look in /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages /var/log/secure, etc on your > server. Problem I had was related to hosts.allow, had to have localhost > there > for ssh. ssh works fine on its own, the session looks like it starts, but I can't see a reason that it terminates immediately: Nov 20 12:47:17 c7 /usr/bin/x2gostartagent: successfully started X2Go agent session with ID les-78-1416509234_stDMATE_dp32 Nov 20 12:47:19 c7 /usr/bin/x2gosetkeyboard: Setting X keyboard according to /home/les/.x2go/C-les-78-1416509234_stDMATE_dp32/keyboard Nov 20 12:47:19 c7 /usr/bin/x2goruncommand: launching session with Xsession-x2go mechanism, using STARTUP="mate-session" Nov 20 12:47:31 c7 systemd-logind: Removed session 11642. Hmmm..., doing 'yum remove x2goserver-xsession' seems to have fixed it. I had added that package due to the recommendation earlier in this thread. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] CentOS7/EPEL package?
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On 10/31/2014 04:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> >>> Is something wrong with the x2goserver-4.0.1.18-1.el7.x86_64 package >>> in EPEL. The CentOS7 hosts that worked with the previous version >>> (w/MATE desktop) now just open a black window on the client that >>> closes almost instantly. On one system I upgraded only the x2goserver >>> package to make sure it wasn't some other update causing the problem. >>> >> >> Yes, there is an issue with if if you don't have x2goserver-xsession >> installed as well. Please test >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3596/x2goserver-4.0.1.18-3.el7 >> from epel-testing and give feedback. >> > > That fixes the problem - but what is the story with > x2go-server-xsession? Should that be installed too? > And now I'm back to not working again... I updated the windows client (although since the latest download always has the same name it's not obvious if it changed) and have done yum updates on the Centos 7 side. How are you supposed to debug the scenario where you connect, the new window flashes open momentarily, then closes and the other window just says 'session terminated' - and even that part goes away too quickly to see any details. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] CentOS7/EPEL package?
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > >> >> That fixes the problem - but what is the story with >> x2go-server-xsession? Should that be installed too? >> > > It's recommended for setting up full desktop environments, and probably > should be installed. > Unless there is some downside, why not make it a dependency for x2go-server? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] CentOS7/EPEL package?
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 10/31/2014 04:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >> Is something wrong with the x2goserver-4.0.1.18-1.el7.x86_64 package >> in EPEL. The CentOS7 hosts that worked with the previous version >> (w/MATE desktop) now just open a black window on the client that >> closes almost instantly. On one system I upgraded only the x2goserver >> package to make sure it wasn't some other update causing the problem. >> > > Yes, there is an issue with if if you don't have x2goserver-xsession > installed as well. Please test > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3596/x2goserver-4.0.1.18-3.el7 > from epel-testing and give feedback. > That fixes the problem - but what is the story with x2go-server-xsession? Should that be installed too? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] CentOS7/EPEL package?
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Robert Dinse wrote: > > Nope, it's not a problem with X2Go per se', it's a problem with Gnome-3 > and any other compositing desktop being incompatible with X2Go (and freeNX). > Install mate on Centos7, then specify "mate-session" as the command or > choose Mate from the drop-down in X2Go and it will work fine. In case I wasn't clear: a system that _was_ working with x2go/MATE before the x2goserver-4.0.1.18-1.el7.x86_64 update now fails with no other change. As do the other systems where I've done a 'yum update' that brought in this change along with others including some MATE component updates. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
[X2Go-User] CentOS7/EPEL package?
Is something wrong with the x2goserver-4.0.1.18-1.el7.x86_64 package in EPEL. The CentOS7 hosts that worked with the previous version (w/MATE desktop) now just open a black window on the client that closes almost instantly. On one system I upgraded only the x2goserver package to make sure it wasn't some other update causing the problem. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] x2go 4.0.3.0.client for OSX
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Ricardo Díaz Martín < oceanosoftlapa...@gmail.com> wrote: > In > http://code.x2go.org/releases/binary-macosx/x2goclient/releases/4.0.2.1/ > you can find > http://code.x2go.org/releases/binary-macosx/x2goclient/releases/4.0.2.1/x2goclient-4.0.2.1-20141019.dmg > > It's working in my 10.10 Yosemite with XQuartz > It worked for me also on an imac with Yosemite. Didn't try much beyond getting logged in and opening a terminal window or two, though. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] screen size problem in gnome session
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Luciano Gabriel Andino wrote: > hi! this is my first post. I have a problem in gnome sesión using Windows > client. Gnome Window session is much bigger than client. Not possible > configuration in client's side. Meawhile no problem in KDE. What can I do to > solve this? I've been able to resize gnome sessions running on Centos 6.x from a windows client so this must be something version-specific. I try set the client up to make the initial window small enough that the corners are on-screen, though. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] installing x2go on CentOS 6 , SQLite db error
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Grigory Shamov wrote: > > Now how does one manage users? Is it possible to use LDAP with this > version (4.0.1.15)? What do you need to manage? I've always had ssh already set to allow users to connect and x2go just worked on top of that. > Also, EPEL repo has fewer components apparently (no x2gognomebindings, no > x2gextensions) -- do I miss them? A desktop does start and looks like > GNOME (for it is my default and only installed DE on this machine). Is > there a way to give users a default panel, set of bookmarks etc.? The default should be the same as if they logged in with that id at the console (if you have one) with the selected desktop (gnome/kde/mate, etc.). -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] installing x2go on CentOS 6 , SQLite db error
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Grigory Shamov wrote: > Dear Les, > > I've used EPEL 6 version of the X2go repo, by adding the repo as > described, (http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:repositories:epel) and > installed the dependencies rpms that were missing manually from EPEL 6 > x86_64 ( python-gevent-0.13.8-3.el6.x86_64.rpm > python-greenlet-0.4.2-1.el6.x86_64.rpm > perl-File-Read-0.0801-2.el6.noarch.rpm > perl-File-ReadBackwards-1.04-7.el6.noarch.rpm). > > Is there more generic EPEL dependencies that I miss? I don't understand the "manually" part. If the EPEL repository is enabled, yum should have installed all the dependencies together for you. And a working x2goserver is included in EPEL. I don't think you need the x2go repo unless you want a version newer than 4.0.1.15. What version did you install? -- Les ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] installing x2go on CentOS 6 , SQLite db error
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Grigory Shamov wrote: > Dear x2go Users, > > I have tried to install x2go (EPEL 6 version) to a CentOS 6.5 machine. The > installation worked (I've had to add fuse and fuse-sshfs and a few perl > modules, including perl-SQLite-DBD). However when I try to connect a > client, or to run x2golistsessions on the server, I get the following > error: > > > Connection failed DBD::SQLite::db prepare failed: no such table: sessions > at /usr/lib64/x2go/x2gosqlitewrapper.pl line 467. Can't call method > "execute" on an undefined value at /usr/lib64/x2go/x2gosqlitewrapper.pl > line 475. > > Could you please suggest how this problem is to be fixed? Thank you very > much in advance! Did you use yum to install x2goserver or just grab an isolated rpm from the repository? Yum should have taken care of all the dependencies for you. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Resume from different client?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Short, Kermit wrote: > > Hi Les, >How are you able to see the sessions? I've never been able to do that! > Hmmm, this time it worked starting a session from the windows desktop and picking it up on the laptop, so maybe it is only the mac that fails and I don't have access to it right now. But, as I recall the initial X2go window where you see the status as the connection starts shows a session id with the options to terminate or start a new one. I have normally terminated the old one, then connected again to start a new session but I'd prefer to be able to resume the one with applications open. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Resume from different client?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Stefan Baur wrote: > Am 18.08.2014 um 18:08 schrieb Les Mikesell: >> Should this work or are there some constraints on the client type or >> hardware differences? > > Color depth, IIRC. Is there a way to constrain it to the lowest common denominator when starting the session - or does it always have to be an exact match? FreeNX and the NX clients have worked moving sessions across the same set of machines, but I'd prefer to switch to X2go. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
[X2Go-User] Resume from different client?
I'd like to be able to keep one x2go session running but disconnect and resume from different clients (Windows desktop, Mac, Windows Laptop), but generally when I try to connect from a client other than the one that started the session I can see the session listed but the resume option is grayed out. Should this work or are there some constraints on the client type or hardware differences? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
Re: [X2Go-User] Can sessions of one user on different hosts collide?
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Mike Gabriel
wrote:
> >
>> Today, one user ('abbasi') told me, that since one or two weeks, he can
>> only
>> have one active connection to two of the servers (named 'lucas' and
>> 'perrin')
>> at a time, while before he could have active connections to both of them
>> in
>> parallel.
>
> this maybe relates to a known NX issue when homes are on NFS. Sessions
> become unresponsive there sometimes.
>
> For X2Go Server 4.0.1.16 (to be released soon) we have moved all NX related
> session stuff from $HOME to $TMP for that very reason.
>
> The occurences of the same ports are not relevant here, I reckon. Ports have
> to be unique per server, not per user.
>
Isn't there another issue if the client gets the same display number
from both servers? Something that is likely if you are the first or
only connection to two different servers... With freenx I always
randomized the DISPLAY_BASE setting on the servers to minimize that
issue but I think the equivalent in x2goserver is buried in one of the
scripts.
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[X2Go-User] Windows X2go client vs synergy
My main desktop computer is a windows box and I run 'synergy' to share it's keyboard mouse with a laptop that is generally sitting on it's left side. However, when x2go is also running on the desktop with an active display window it seems to interfere with synergy. When the mouse cursor hits the left edge of the desktop screen, it should 'appear' to move to the laptop - with synergy transferring the keyboard/mouse control to the laptop until the cursor comes back to the right edge of the laptop screen.When x2go has an active screen, even if it is not positioned near the left edge of the physical screen the cursor just disappears there instead of being picked up by synergy and shown on the laptop client - although it does seem to recognize when it has moved back approximately the same distance to reappear on the desktop. Is there any way to avoid this conflict - or help debug it further? I don't have this problem when using NX/freenx in a similar way. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ x2go-user mailing list x2go-user@lists.x2go.org http://lists.x2go.org/listinfo/x2go-user
