Re: [Xastir-dev] Versions of DB?

2009-12-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Carl Makin wrote:

What versions of DB are officially supported for Xastir?  What versions 
have people tried and found work?


I think 4.x should work, the later the better.  I'm running 4.5 on
OpenSuSE-11.1 here.

Xastir has a run-time check to make sure that the version it was
compiled with and the version it gets linked/run with are the same,
else it disables map caching.  This is required to prevent Xastir
from crashing due to a mismatch.  It's common for systems to have
more than one version installed:  As long as the headers for the
most current version are the only headers installed and Xastir was
compiled using those, you're usually ok.

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Re: [Xastir-dev] Versions of DB?

2009-12-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Carl Makin wrote:


Ok. I think FreeBSD installs the headers for each version in
different directories so, theoretically, you can have multiple
versions installed and compiled against without interference, you
just have to manually specify where the headers and libraries are.
My system has 4.1 and 4.3 installed and it seems to work ok.


Great, except that there's little control in the linker for what you
get linked against.  Berkeley DB library tends to like to crash if
you compiled for one API and then change to a newer version of the
library at link time that has a different API.

If you have a method to control what library Xastir will link
against when you run it, then you should be safe.  Because I didn't
have (or didn't know of) such a method with Linux, I added the
run-time code to disable use of the BDB library if this problem is
detected, saving Xastir from a nasty crash.

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Re: [Xastir] DIGI_NED 0.4.0

2009-12-06 Thread Henk de Groot

Hello Michael,

ml41782 schreef:

I compiled 4.0 this morning and it is looking good here on the server.

Henk,
I still saw the same lines show up in the compiling sequence that I 
sent to you last week.


You still get these warnings?

gcc -O6 -g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wunused -c -I./ -I/usr/include 
-I/usr/local/include -DNEW_AX25 -D_SATTRACKER_ -D_OUTPORT_ -D_PTT_ 
-D_SERIAL_ -D_LINUX_ -c -o mac_if.o mac_if.c

mac_if.c: In function ‘mac_init’:
mac_if.c:390: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘htons’


l/include -DNEW_AX25 -D_SATTRACKER_ -D_OUTPORT_ -D_PTT_ -D_SERIAL_ 
-D_LINUX_ -c -o message.o message.c

message.c: In function ‘send_autoreply_query’:
message.c:1234: warning: ignoring return value of ‘system’, declared 
with attribute warn_unused_result


That should not happen! For the first one I added include file #include 
netinet/in.h in mac_if.c and for the second one I now catch the 
result of the system() function so neither warning should occur. I don't 
get them on my Ubuntu 9.10 system. Also the warnings from Predict.c for 
not using the returnvalue of fgets should be gone.


I do not understand what's happening... To test I just pulled the 
package from my website, did a make clean, make depend and make and it 
compiled clean without the warinings (using the new AX25 lib and .h files).


Are you sure the source is 0.4.0? If you got it from the main site it 
may still be 0.3.9 since Remko is no magician and cannot change the 
mirror and his pages that fast :-).


Kind regards,

Henk.


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[Xastir] Ubuntu Kubuntu iso images

2009-12-06 Thread Lee Bengston
http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

In an effort to stay less behind the curve so to speak, Ubuntu and
Kubuntu version 9.10 live/installation images are now available for
download at the link above.

Anyone else who wants to post them - feel free.  My neighborhood seems
to be prone to power outages, so other sources are good.  Also it
appears that my domain doesn't work in some parts of the world for
some strange reason.

Regards,

Lee - K5DAT
Murphy, TX
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Re: [Xastir] Ubuntu Kubuntu iso images

2009-12-06 Thread Lee Bengston
On 12/6/09, Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

 In an effort to stay less behind the curve so to speak, Ubuntu and
 Kubuntu version 9.10 live/installation images are now available for
 download at the link above.

 Anyone else who wants to post them - feel free.  My neighborhood seems
 to be prone to power outages, so other sources are good.  Also it
 appears that my domain doesn't work in some parts of the world for
 some strange reason.

I forgot to mention that these are modified versions of the standard
live/installation CD's that include Xastir 1.97 compiled yesterday
with everything except GDAL and Festival (same as the virtual
machines).


 Regards,

 Lee - K5DAT
 Murphy, TX

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[Xastir] What's the current 'preferred', Image or Graphics Magick?

2009-12-06 Thread KA7O
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I know there's been a 'favored' tool in the past due to API issues and
recently there have been some fixes.

What's the current preferred image tool - ImageMagick, GraphicsMagic or
do either now work as well as the other?

73
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Re: [Xastir] CVS install on Fedora12 - R click errors

2009-12-06 Thread KA7O
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Yup - I'm getting more reports of this from some of the local Xastir
users in my Penguin Farm. It's most certainly a new 'feature' of F12.

73

On 11/29/2009 09:20 AM, Alan Crosswell wrote:
 OK, so it's not just me:-). Welcome to the club. I've already tested
 building with both lesstif and openmotif with identical results. Also
 with different window managers. I think it's something in the Xorg
 server
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Re: [Xastir] What's the current 'preferred', Image or Graphics Magick?

2009-12-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, KA7O wrote:


I know there's been a 'favored' tool in the past due to API issues and
recently there have been some fixes.

What's the current preferred image tool - ImageMagick, GraphicsMagic or
do either now work as well as the other?


I would lean towards GM unless it doesn't work for you.  Doesn't
work for you has probably been changed by the last fix Tom did in
CVS.

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Re: [Xastir] DIGI_NED 0.4.0

2009-12-06 Thread ml41782
Henk, 
The problem appears at my end. My suggestion would be to anyone is to keep the 
system library's up to date. very clean uneventful compile of the program.  


Michael K4MQF



From: Henk de Groot henk.de.gr...@hetnet.nl
To: ml41782 ml41...@yahoo.com
Cc: xastir List xas...@xastir.org; Remko Welling pe1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:54:46 AM
Subject: Re: DIGI_NED 0.4.0

Hello Michael,

ml41782 schreef:
 I compiled 4.0 this morning and it is looking good here on the server.
 
 Henk,
 I still saw the same lines show up in the compiling sequence that I sent to 
 you last week.

You still get these warnings?

 gcc -O6 -g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wunused -c -I./ -I/usr/include 
 -I/usr/local/include -DNEW_AX25 -D_SATTRACKER_ -D_OUTPORT_ -D_PTT_ -D_SERIAL_ 
 -D_LINUX_ -c -o mac_if.o mac_if.c
 mac_if.c: In function ‘mac_init’:
 mac_if.c:390: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘htons’
 
 
 l/include -DNEW_AX25 -D_SATTRACKER_ -D_OUTPORT_ -D_PTT_ -D_SERIAL_ -D_LINUX_ 
 -c -o message.o message.c
 message.c: In function ‘send_autoreply_query’:
 message.c:1234: warning: ignoring return value of ‘system’, declared with 
 attribute warn_unused_result

That should not happen! For the first one I added include file #include 
netinet/in.h in mac_if.c and for the second one I now catch the result of 
the system() function so neither warning should occur. I don't get them on my 
Ubuntu 9.10 system. Also the warnings from Predict.c for not using the 
returnvalue of fgets should be gone.

I do not understand what's happening... To test I just pulled the package from 
my website, did a make clean, make depend and make and it compiled clean 
without the warinings (using the new AX25 lib and .h files).

Are you sure the source is 0.4.0? If you got it from the main site it may still 
be 0.3.9 since Remko is no magician and cannot change the mirror and his pages 
that fast :-).

Kind regards,

Henk.


  
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Re: [Xastir] What's the current 'preferred', Image or Graphics Magick?

2009-12-06 Thread KA7O
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Cool, thanks Curt.

Updating the 'how to compile Xastir from CVS notes for Fedora 12' on the
web site - wanted to include good 'suggestions'.

73

On 12/06/2009 03:10 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote:
 On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, KA7O wrote:
 
 I know there's been a 'favored' tool in the past due to API issues and
 recently there have been some fixes.

 What's the current preferred image tool - ImageMagick, GraphicsMagic or
 do either now work as well as the other?
 
 I would lean towards GM unless it doesn't work for you.  Doesn't
 work for you has probably been changed by the last fix Tom did in
 CVS.
 

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[Xastir] Internet Interface

2009-12-06 Thread Rob Vance
I am a new user to Xastir and an advanced newbie in Linux.  I am using
Ubuntu 9.04.

I have successfully loaded Xastir from source and have it running.  However,
I cannot get the internet interface to connect.  When launching Xastir from
the console it passes this message upon failure:

Interface Error!  Error opening interface 0 Time Out

I have set the parameters in the dialog box along with my passcode.  I have
tried various servers including the rotate.aprs.net:14580 and
rotate.aprs2.net:14580.

Any suggestions are most appreciated.

Regards,

Rob, N6ROB
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Re: [Xastir] Internet Interface

2009-12-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Rob Vance wrote:


Interface Error!  Error opening interface 0 Time Out

I have set the parameters in the dialog box along with my passcode.  I have
tried various servers including the rotate.aprs.net:14580 and
rotate.aprs2.net:14580.


Are you entering the host as rotate.aprs.net and the port as
14580, or entering rotate.aprs.net:14580 in the host field?  It
should be the former.

Do you have networking configured on your Linux box already?  In
other words, can you do something like ping ucsd.edu and get
responses back quickly inside an xterm?

README.Getting-Started talks you through setting up an internet
server interface.  That text document and others should be available
in your xastir directory, also in /usr/local/share/doc/xastir/

Another less likely possibility is that your configs are not getting
saved properly to your config file to do your LANG setting.  See the
FAQ regarding that.

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Re: [Xastir] Internet Interface

2009-12-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 03:26:59PM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the n6rob@gmail.com flavor, containing:
 I am a new user to Xastir and an advanced newbie in Linux.  I am using
 Ubuntu 9.04.
 
 I have successfully loaded Xastir from source and have it running.  However,
 I cannot get the internet interface to connect.  When launching Xastir from
 the console it passes this message upon failure:
 
 Interface Error!  Error opening interface 0 Time Out
 
 I have set the parameters in the dialog box along with my passcode.  I have
 tried various servers including the rotate.aprs.net:14580 and
 rotate.aprs2.net:14580.

This would indicate that you have a network connectivity problem and not
a problem with Xastir.  Can you connect to rotate.aprs.net:14501 from a web 
browser?

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Re: [Xastir] Internet Interface

2009-12-06 Thread Rob Vance
Hi Curt;

Yes, I have entered them in the dialog correctly. And yes, I have a working
internet connection.  I've read the wiki and other documents regarding
internet interfaces, and I've searched through the mail archives.  I'll
check the FAQ for the config file thing you mentioned.

The message says it errors on opening the interface.  That's why I am
wondering if it's a permissions thing; but I don't know where to look or
specifically which interface it's trying to open.

BTW: Nice article in Linux Journal.  It's the reason I'm here.

Rob, N6ROB

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Curt, WE7U arc...@eskimo.com wrote:

 On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Rob Vance wrote:

  Interface Error!  Error opening interface 0 Time Out

 I have set the parameters in the dialog box along with my passcode.  I
 have
 tried various servers including the rotate.aprs.net:14580 and
 rotate.aprs2.net:14580.


 Are you entering the host as rotate.aprs.net and the port as
 14580, or entering rotate.aprs.net:14580 in the host field?  It
 should be the former.

 Do you have networking configured on your Linux box already?  In
 other words, can you do something like ping ucsd.edu and get
 responses back quickly inside an xterm?

 README.Getting-Started talks you through setting up an internet
 server interface.  That text document and others should be available
 in your xastir directory, also in /usr/local/share/doc/xastir/

 Another less likely possibility is that your configs are not getting
 saved properly to your config file to do your LANG setting.  See the
 FAQ regarding that.

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Re: [Xastir] Internet Interface

2009-12-06 Thread Rob Vance
Good point.  Xastir is on the same machine I am sending this email on - it
surfs just fine.  So, generally, yes my internet connection works.  However,
I just tried loading the page as you described (
http://rotate.aprs.net:14501/) and it won't load.  Hmmm.  I dunno.  Webpages
at Linuxjournal.com, http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xastir,
and Google Mail, and http://lists.xastir.org/pipermail/xastir seem to work
just fine.  I can even ping UCSD as Curt suggested.

I just tried port 14580 as well; same results.

Rob, N6ROB

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 03:26:59PM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the n6rob@gmail.com flavor, containing:
  I am a new user to Xastir and an advanced newbie in Linux.  I am using
  Ubuntu 9.04.
 
  I have successfully loaded Xastir from source and have it running.
  However,
  I cannot get the internet interface to connect.  When launching Xastir
 from
  the console it passes this message upon failure:
 
  Interface Error!  Error opening interface 0 Time Out
 
  I have set the parameters in the dialog box along with my passcode.  I
 have
  tried various servers including the rotate.aprs.net:14580 and
  rotate.aprs2.net:14580.

 This would indicate that you have a network connectivity problem and not
 a problem with Xastir.  Can you connect to rotate.aprs.net:14501 from a
 web
 browser?

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Re: [Xastir] Internet Interface

2009-12-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Rob Vance wrote:


I just tried loading the page as you described (
http://rotate.aprs.net:14501/) and it won't load.


Try firenet.us:14580

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[Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread James Jolin

Gents,
I tried manually going to Tamu web site and trying the various urls 
listed in the various geo files...all I ever get is object not found.  
What is everyone using for radar images these days?

Jim

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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 07:35:18PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:
 Gents,
 I tried manually going to Tamu web site and trying the various urls 
 listed in the various geo files...all I ever get is object not found.  
 What is everyone using for radar images these days?
 

I've given up on them.  The USRadar no longer works, and WMSRadar has been
returning an error HTML page instead of an image for months.  Oddly, this is
converted to an image by imagemagick (using html2ps), which leads
to a blob of random junk in one corner of the display on my systems.  It took
me a while to trace the source of that junk down to WMSRadar.

I have no idea if there are any working radar image servers left anywhere
that can be used by cobbling together a .geo file.  I'd love to hear that there
is.

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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread Alex Carver
I haven't had a problem using radar directly from NWS.  I generate GEO files 
for the RIDGE image for specific areas.  It won't give you all of CONUS unless 
you pull in every RIDGE file but it works for zoomed areas.  NWS has a page 
about it here:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/doppler/ridge_download.htm

They also have the following GIS page:

http://radar.weather.gov/GIS.html

Which contains a link to a location where you can download the regional CONUS 
GIFs.  When you go to the National/Regional Mosaic section and get the file 
list of GIFs, look for the named files as mentioned (e.g. southeast, southwest, 
etc.) which will give you one of the eight regional mosaics.

Once the GEO file is set up, either of these work quite well in Xastir.  I use 
the RIDGE when I'm zoomed in and the regional mosaics when I'm zoomed out.

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 From: Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org
 Subject: Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
 Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 8:38 PM
 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 07:35:18PM
 -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the jjo...@itol.com
 flavor, containing:
  Gents,
  I tried manually going to Tamu web site and trying the
 various urls 
  listed in the various geo files...all I ever get is
 object not found.  
  What is everyone using for radar images these days?
  
 
 I've given up on them.  The USRadar no longer works,
 and WMSRadar has been
 returning an error HTML page instead of an image for
 months.  Oddly, this is
 converted to an image by imagemagick (using html2ps), which
 leads
 to a blob of random junk in one corner of the display on my
 systems.  It took
 me a while to trace the source of that junk down to
 WMSRadar.
 
 I have no idea if there are any working radar image servers
 left anywhere
 that can be used by cobbling together a .geo file. 
 I'd love to hear that there
 is.
 
 -- 
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 KM5VY   SAR502   DM64ux 
         http://www.swcp.com/~russo/
 Tijeras, NM  QRPL#1592 K2#398  SOC#236 
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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread James Jolin

Alex Carver wrote:

I haven't had a problem using radar directly from NWS.  I generate GEO files 
for the RIDGE image for specific areas.  It won't give you all of CONUS unless 
you pull in every RIDGE file but it works for zoomed areas.  NWS has a page 
about it here:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/doppler/ridge_download.htm

They also have the following GIS page:

http://radar.weather.gov/GIS.html

Which contains a link to a location where you can download the regional CONUS 
GIFs.  When you go to the National/Regional Mosaic section and get the file 
list of GIFs, look for the named files as mentioned (e.g. southeast, southwest, 
etc.) which will give you one of the eight regional mosaics.

Once the GEO file is set up, either of these work quite well in Xastir.  I use 
the RIDGE when I'm zoomed in and the regional mosaics when I'm zoomed out.

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

  

From: Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org
Subject: Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 8:38 PM
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 07:35:18PM
-0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the jjo...@itol.com
flavor, containing:


Gents,
I tried manually going to Tamu web site and trying the
  
various urls 


listed in the various geo files...all I ever get is
  
object not found.  


What is everyone using for radar images these days?

  

I've given up on them.  The USRadar no longer works,
and WMSRadar has been
returning an error HTML page instead of an image for
months.  Oddly, this is
converted to an image by imagemagick (using html2ps), which
leads
to a blob of random junk in one corner of the display on my
systems.  It took
me a while to trace the source of that junk down to
WMSRadar.

I have no idea if there are any working radar image servers
left anywhere
that can be used by cobbling together a .geo file. 
I'd love to hear that there

is.

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Tijeras, NM  QRPL#1592 K2#398  SOC#236 


Alex,
How did you set up the geo file?  Did you take an existing file and 
change the url or did you start from scratch?  I know next to nothing 
about geo files.

Jim
WA9ARB


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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread Alex Carver
--- On Sun, 12/6/09, James Jolin jjo...@itol.com wrote:
 Alex,
 How did you set up the geo file?  Did you take an
 existing file and change the url or did you start from
 scratch?  I know next to nothing about geo files.
 Jim
 WA9ARB

The easiest way is to follow along with one of the default GEO files and make 
the appropriate modifications.

Here's an example of my GEO for the Atlanta area RIDGE radar (watch out for 
word wraps):

#   X   Y   LongLat
URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/FFC_N0R_0.gif
TIEPOINT0   0   -87.37500   35.58083
TIEPOINT620 620 -82.00217   31.14133
IMAGESIZE 620 620
REFRESH 60
TRANSPARENT 0x0
PROJECTION LatLon

The TIEPOINT directives will assign a specific pixel coordinate (X,Y) to a 
specific lat/long.  Pixel 0,0 is upper left, and 620x620 is the lower right 
most pixel on my RIDGE image (the image itself is also 620x620 in this case).  
You need two TIEPOINTs so that Xastir can appropriately place the image.  The 
IMAGESIZE tells Xastir how big the radar file is in pixels (again 620x620 for 
the Atlanta RIDGE).

After that, just fix the URL accordingly.

The more accurate the points, the better the radar will line up with your maps. 
 I used Delorme Street Atlas to find a couple known points in the RIDGE data 
and then worked my way back to the corners.  You don't have to use the corners 
of the image file, any two points will do since Xastir knows about the overall 
image size using the IMAGESIZE directive.

You may have to play around with the TRANSPARENT directive which tells Xastir 
what color is defined to be transparent for overlay purposes.


  
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Re: [Xastir] Internet Interface - RESOLVED

2009-12-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Rob Vance wrote:


Okay, it was the firewall.  I opened 14501:14580 for TCP both inbound and
outbound.  The interface connected without a problem once I did this (so did
the webpage).

Took me a while to figure out that I needed to click the Transmit Now!
button on the interface menu; but that sent my position and then the reports
came flooding in.


That's only if you are both using a filtered interface where the
filtering depends on your location -and- you started the interface
after starting Xastir.  If you had waited 30 minutes it would have
automatically started coming in (your 2nd transmit after starting
Xastir).  If you had shut down Xastir and restarted, with that
interface set to automatically start, that would have worked as
well.

Glad you got it going!

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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread Gerry Creager
I'll find the explicit reference (all I can find is the full-US mosaic 
right now) but using Delorme is a real poor hack since the projections 
are different between RIDGE and Street Atlas.  At least from a GIS geek 
perspective.


gerry

James Jolin wrote:

Alex Carver wrote:

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, James Jolin jjo...@itol.com wrote:
 

Alex,
How did you set up the geo file?  Did you take an
existing file and change the url or did you start from
scratch?  I know next to nothing about geo files.
Jim
WA9ARB



The easiest way is to follow along with one of the default GEO files 
and make the appropriate modifications.


Here's an example of my GEO for the Atlanta area RIDGE radar (watch 
out for word wraps):


#   X   Y   
LongLat

URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/FFC_N0R_0.gif
TIEPOINT0   0   
-87.37500   35.58083
TIEPOINT620 620 
-82.00217   31.14133

IMAGESIZE 620 620
REFRESH 60
TRANSPARENT 0x0
PROJECTION LatLon

The TIEPOINT directives will assign a specific pixel coordinate (X,Y) 
to a specific lat/long.  Pixel 0,0 is upper left, and 620x620 is the 
lower right most pixel on my RIDGE image (the image itself is also 
620x620 in this case).  You need two TIEPOINTs so that Xastir can 
appropriately place the image.  The IMAGESIZE tells Xastir how big the 
radar file is in pixels (again 620x620 for the Atlanta RIDGE).


After that, just fix the URL accordingly.

The more accurate the points, the better the radar will line up with 
your maps.  I used Delorme Street Atlas to find a couple known points 
in the RIDGE data and then worked my way back to the corners.  You 
don't have to use the corners of the image file, any two points will 
do since Xastir knows about the overall image size using the IMAGESIZE 
directive.


You may have to play around with the TRANSPARENT directive which tells 
Xastir what color is defined to be transparent for overlay purposes.



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thanks, Alex...looks like a nice evening project.
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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread Alex Carver
It's a poor hack but it works enough if I can find accurate markers (like 
junctions in highways) since those should have identical coordinates no matter 
what software is being used.  I only need anchor points, not much else.

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Gerry Creager gerry.crea...@tamu.edu wrote:

 From: Gerry Creager gerry.crea...@tamu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
 Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 11:40 PM
 I'll find the explicit reference (all
 I can find is the full-US mosaic right now) but using
 Delorme is a real poor hack since the projections are
 different between RIDGE and Street Atlas.  At least
 from a GIS geek perspective.
 
 gerry
 
 James Jolin wrote:
  Alex Carver wrote:
  --- On Sun, 12/6/09, James Jolin jjo...@itol.com
 wrote:
   
  Alex,
  How did you set up the geo file?  Did you
 take an
  existing file and change the url or did you
 start from
  scratch?  I know next to nothing about
 geo files.
  Jim
  WA9ARB
      
  
  The easiest way is to follow along with one of the
 default GEO files and make the appropriate modifications.
  
  Here's an example of my GEO for the Atlanta area
 RIDGE radar (watch out for word wraps):
  
  #             
          X     
          Y     
          Long   
         Lat
  URL     http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/FFC_N0R_0.gif
  TIEPOINT           
     0           
    0           
    -87.37500   
    35.58083
  TIEPOINT           
     620         
    620         
    -82.00217   
    31.14133
  IMAGESIZE 620 620
  REFRESH 60
  TRANSPARENT 0x0
  PROJECTION LatLon
  
  The TIEPOINT directives will assign a specific
 pixel coordinate (X,Y) to a specific lat/long.  Pixel
 0,0 is upper left, and 620x620 is the lower right most pixel
 on my RIDGE image (the image itself is also 620x620 in this
 case).  You need two TIEPOINTs so that Xastir can
 appropriately place the image.  The IMAGESIZE tells
 Xastir how big the radar file is in pixels (again 620x620
 for the Atlanta RIDGE).
  
  After that, just fix the URL accordingly.
  
  The more accurate the points, the better the radar
 will line up with your maps.  I used Delorme Street
 Atlas to find a couple known points in the RIDGE data and
 then worked my way back to the corners.  You don't have
 to use the corners of the image file, any two points will do
 since Xastir knows about the overall image size using the
 IMAGESIZE directive.
  
  You may have to play around with the TRANSPARENT
 directive which tells Xastir what color is defined to be
 transparent for overlay purposes.
  
  
    
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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread Jeremy McDermond
Thanks a lot for this technique Alex.  I've gotten some weather radar on my 
Xastir maps now.

On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Alex Carver wrote:

 The TIEPOINT directives will assign a specific pixel coordinate (X,Y) to a 
 specific lat/long.  Pixel 0,0 is upper left, and 620x620 is the lower right 
 most pixel on my RIDGE image (the image itself is also 620x620 in this case). 
  You need two TIEPOINTs so that Xastir can appropriately place the image.  
 The IMAGESIZE tells Xastir how big the radar file is in pixels (again 620x620 
 for the Atlanta RIDGE).
 
 After that, just fix the URL accordingly.
 
 The more accurate the points, the better the radar will line up with your 
 maps.  I used Delorme Street Atlas to find a couple known points in the RIDGE 
 data and then worked my way back to the corners.  You don't have to use the 
 corners of the image file, any two points will do since Xastir knows about 
 the overall image size using the IMAGESIZE directive.

Note that if you get the same file with a .gfw extension, you'll get some 
information on the radar map that is returned.  This includes the coordinates 
for the upper left corner (0,0) and the number of map units per pixel.  If you 
take these statistics, and multiply them by the resolution of the map 
(600x550), you can calculate the lower right corner of the map.  So, for 
example, for the NYC map (OKX), 
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/OKX_N0R_0.gfw will return:

0.00951144131747161
0.00
0.00
-0.00951144131747161
-75.7126750876687
43.4768917707963

I wrote a perl script that will take as a single argument the abbreviation of 
the radar station off of the NWS site, and output to STDOUT a .geo file that 
should be correct for it.  Note that you'll need to install LWP::UserAgent and 
Image::Size off of CPAN to make it work. Hopefully folks find this useful.  If 
someone wants to brush it up and put it into contrib or something, they have my 
permission.

-- CLIP 

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use LWP::UserAgent;
use Image::Size;

my $station = uc($ARGV[0]);

my $gif_url = 'http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/' . $station . 
'_N0R_0.gif';

my $response = LWP::UserAgent-new-request(
  HTTP::Request-new( GET = $gif_url )
);

unless($response-is_success) {
  die Couldn't get radar image: , $response-status_line, \n;
}

my ($img_x, $img_y) = imgsize(\$response-content);

my $response = LWP::UserAgent-new-request(
  HTTP::Request-new( GET = 'http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/' . 
$station . '_N0R_0.gfw' )
);

unless($response-is_success) {
  die Couldn't get radar descriptor: , $response-status_line, \n;
}

my ( $yscale, undef, undef, $xscale, $lon, $lat ) = split(/\r\n/, 
$response-content);

my $tiepoint_lat = $lat - ($yscale * $img_y);
my $tiepoint_lon = $lon - ($xscale * $img_x);

print URL\t\t$gif_url\n;
print TIEPOINT\t0\t0\t$lon\t$lat\n;
print TIEPOINT\t$img_x\t$img_y\t$tiepoint_lon\t$tiepoint_lat\n;
print IMAGESIZE\t$img_x\t$img_y\n;
print REFRESH\t\t60\n;
print TRANSPARENT\t0x0\n;
print PROJECTION\tLatLon\n;

- CLIP ---

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Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem

2009-12-06 Thread Gerry Creager
I'll apologize now for not being able to keep my site up and 
operational. Little problem with sys admins, hardware failure and the 
fact that NWS gets paid to do this, and I'm still trying to get funding 
outta them to support some of the things I do that NWS benefits from.


OK so I've whined. Fact is, my site's been down hard with a couple of 
large RAID failures, and a pair of dual-drive RAID failures on 
individual machines.  Mark this down: RAID is no substitute for backup. 
 And if your backups aren't happening, then you are in trouble.


I'm recovering the TAMU site, as best I can, now.  First things first: 
I've gotta get my weather models going. I've got to get the Texas 
Mesonet page displaying at least real-time data again.  Then I can get 
radar back up.  I've been able to pretty well keep the Level II and 
Level III data caches for NWS and NCEP up but the processed stuff lost 
out when I lost the disks on that processing system.  Losing all of the 
Mesonet disks was another big hit.


Gerry

Alex Carver wrote:

I haven't had a problem using radar directly from NWS.  I generate GEO files 
for the RIDGE image for specific areas.  It won't give you all of CONUS unless 
you pull in every RIDGE file but it works for zoomed areas.  NWS has a page 
about it here:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/doppler/ridge_download.htm

They also have the following GIS page:

http://radar.weather.gov/GIS.html

Which contains a link to a location where you can download the regional CONUS 
GIFs.  When you go to the National/Regional Mosaic section and get the file 
list of GIFs, look for the named files as mentioned (e.g. southeast, southwest, 
etc.) which will give you one of the eight regional mosaics.

Once the GEO file is set up, either of these work quite well in Xastir.  I use 
the RIDGE when I'm zoomed in and the regional mosaics when I'm zoomed out.

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:


From: Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org
Subject: Re: [Xastir] More on radar problem
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 8:38 PM
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 07:35:18PM
-0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the jjo...@itol.com
flavor, containing:

Gents,
I tried manually going to Tamu web site and trying the
various urls 

listed in the various geo files...all I ever get is
object not found.  

What is everyone using for radar images these days?


I've given up on them.  The USRadar no longer works,
and WMSRadar has been
returning an error HTML page instead of an image for
months.  Oddly, this is
converted to an image by imagemagick (using html2ps), which
leads
to a blob of random junk in one corner of the display on my
systems.  It took
me a while to trace the source of that junk down to
WMSRadar.

I have no idea if there are any working radar image servers
left anywhere
that can be used by cobbling together a .geo file. 
I'd love to hear that there

is.

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