Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 04:37:44PM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the esa...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
  Can't answer that as I don't run Ubuntu nor know what version of
  Xastir binary they have.
 
 I've got an idea... What about creating a PPA for Xastir on Launchpad.net?
 
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
 https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA

Who do you propose will be the person to create that PPA and maintain it?  Are
you volunteering?

To date, most Xastir developers don't maintain binaries for any platform (Curt
used to maintain an LSB binary for Linux, but I don't know if he does anymore).
It's hard enough to have the time to work on the code itself.  I don't see 
that changing in short order.

PPAs are a fine approach (I use the UbuntuGIS PPA for some machines, precisely 
because that group updates some packages that have bad versions in Ubuntu 
official repositories), but even they need maintainers who are going to keep
on top of the thing.  If one or more of the Xastir *users* of Ubuntu on this 
list were to volunteer to do this, it would be cool, so long as that person
were committed to keeping it up-to-date.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-06 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 02:52:19AM -0500, David Aitcheson wrote:
 I know what you mean.  All one has to do is look at the SchoolTool
 package and see how a LaunchPad-PPA works to a packages advantage.

Yeah, we moved Netrek to Launchpad and the greater community involvement
has been fantastic.  Well, at least we get each release packaged within
days instead of five years.

By the way, there is a PPA already for a recent version of Xastir, there
are Launchpad moderated bug reports for Xastir and they point it out.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xastir/+bug/492867

(As upstream for pptp, poptop (pptpd), and Netrek, I love digging in the
bug reports at the distribution level, they are such an inspirational
source of fixes.)

If you need something more recent, you could ask Kamal Mostafa to
package again.

If someone thinks there should be more frequent releases, and the
release engineer can't afford to do them, then anybody could volunteer
to release tarballs of CVS for packaging.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Tom Russo wrote:


To date, most Xastir developers don't maintain binaries for any platform (Curt
used to maintain an LSB binary for Linux, but I don't know if he does anymore).
It's hard enough to have the time to work on the code itself.  I don't see
that changing in short order.


Correct.  LSB and OpenSuSE RPM's.  I haven't updated either in a
while.  Luckily the OpenSuSE RPM's are being done by some ham
repository guys.  Sounds similar to what was just proposed for
Ubuntu.  It's a separate repository that you can add to OpenSuSE,
then you get a plethora of ham apps to choose from that aren't part
of normal OpenSuSE.

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Re: [Xastir] Cygwin problem, probably routine

2010-02-06 Thread David Flood
That'll teach me to answer emails without access to my complete archives.  I
didn't recognize the name so forgot the previous thread that resulted in the
new instructions.

I'll fire up my install and let it run for awhile and see if it also messes
up after some time.

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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread Rob Neece
I tested the build directions and tried to integrate the help from Lee 
(K5DAT) and Gale (KC4PL).   Lee's instructions are on the web as given 
below, and Gale's instructions appeared in an email.  As it turned out, 
Lee's instructions were generally a super-set of the instructions given 
by Gale, so that is mostly what I followed.  The install was mostly 
successful.  A few notes on what I did follow:


Installing packages
 used automake1.9 instead of automake {per Gale} (was this a good idea?)
 did a great number of additional installs based (per Lee)

Setting up .cvsrc
 I made a typo, so when the file ran, -z3 was not applied.  It probably 
didn't matter.


Getting the source
 I chose to get STABLE, figuring I could easily go to the bleeding 
edge, but going back might be hard.


Shell scripts
 Gale suggests running ./get-maptools.sh in ~/src/xastir.  The script 
didn't exist, so I skipped it.


Libraries
 I built the proj.4 library as suggested, but skipped libgeotiff, since 
it sounded unnecessary for me.

 In retrospect,  it would have been good to do it -- very easy, why not?

Install xastir
 I got the expected results, except GeoTiff and GDAL capabilities are 
not available.


festival
 running festival --server  fails due to no default voice found ...

xastir
 running xastir seems to work great, but there are some messages at the 
console

 see below


r...@hawk:~/src/xastir/build$ xastir
Making user dir
Making user config dir
Making user data dir
Making user log dir
Making user tracklogs dir
Making user tmp dir
Making user gps dir
Making map_cache dir


Built-in map types:
 gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
  map   APRSdos Maps
  map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
  pdb   PocketAPRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
  geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats 
allowed)

  geo   URL (Internet maps via wget)
  shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
  xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
Making user /home/rtn/.xastir/config/xastir.cnf file
client(1) Sat Feb  6 18:53:30 2010 : accepted from localhost
Indexing maps...
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
Finished indexing maps
*** Reading WX Alert log files
*** Done with WX Alert log files
convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too 
low):18446744073677686016

convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too high):161465600


I set up xaster to use tigermap.geo, and I'm very pleased.  Now I'm sure 
I will have some questions in a day or two.


My suggestions for the MEPIS instructions on the web would be to 
resolve  which automake should be used (there were several versions 
available).  Apparently something more needs to be done for festival, 
which may be obvious, but I've never even heard of festival, so it will 
require a little detective work.  It seems like the bleeding edge 
version is recommended over STABLE.  Why wouldn't STABLE be recommended 
for the masses?


In conclusion -- Great Job guys  Thanks so much!
Rob


Lee Bengston wrote:

On 2/4/10, Rob Neece k...@cox.net wrote:
  

Curt,

I am very interested in getting this working, and your time is much
appreciated. I have to go take care of some business now and will get
back to this later this evening. If it appears most useful for me to
learn how to compile xastir, my work is cut out for me. I can probably
get some help from the MEPIS forum, but is there a latest-and-greatest
cookbook howto on compiling xastir?



http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:MEPIS_8.0

There is now.  I like Mepis and have intended to do this for a long
time.  Being Debian based, the procedure is very similar to the one
for Ubuntu.  I did a clean install of Mepis 8.0.15 last weekend, and I
hadn't installed Xastir yet, so the timing was good.

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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread gdw
The /scripts directory is under the xastir directory  i.e.  
~/src/xastir/scripts


In trying out what I typed into the e-mail I did see a couple of typos 
on the file names I will have to clean up my previous e-mail and send it 
in again.


Gale
KC4PL


On 2/6/2010 8:03 PM, Rob Neece wrote:
I tested the build directions and tried to integrate the help from Lee 
(K5DAT) and Gale (KC4PL).   Lee's instructions are on the web as given 
below, and Gale's instructions appeared in an email.  As it turned 
out, Lee's instructions were generally a super-set of the instructions 
given by Gale, so that is mostly what I followed.  The install was 
mostly successful.  A few notes on what I did follow:


Installing packages
 used automake1.9 instead of automake {per Gale} (was this a good idea?)
 did a great number of additional installs based (per Lee)

Setting up .cvsrc
 I made a typo, so when the file ran, -z3 was not applied.  It 
probably didn't matter.


Getting the source
 I chose to get STABLE, figuring I could easily go to the bleeding 
edge, but going back might be hard.


Shell scripts
 Gale suggests running ./get-maptools.sh in ~/src/xastir.  The script 
didn't exist, so I skipped it.


Libraries
 I built the proj.4 library as suggested, but skipped libgeotiff, 
since it sounded unnecessary for me.

 In retrospect,  it would have been good to do it -- very easy, why not?

Install xastir
 I got the expected results, except GeoTiff and GDAL capabilities are 
not available.


festival
 running festival --server  fails due to no default voice found ...

xastir
 running xastir seems to work great, but there are some messages at 
the console

 see below


r...@hawk:~/src/xastir/build$ xastir
Making user dir
Making user config dir
Making user data dir
Making user log dir
Making user tracklogs dir
Making user tmp dir
Making user gps dir
Making map_cache dir


Built-in map types:
 gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
  map   APRSdos Maps
  map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
  pdb   PocketAPRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
  geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many 
formats allowed)

  geo   URL (Internet maps via wget)
  shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
  xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
Making user /home/rtn/.xastir/config/xastir.cnf file
client(1) Sat Feb  6 18:53:30 2010 : accepted from localhost
Indexing maps...
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
Finished indexing maps
*** Reading WX Alert log files
*** Done with WX Alert log files
convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too 
low):18446744073677686016

convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too high):161465600


I set up xaster to use tigermap.geo, and I'm very pleased.  Now I'm 
sure I will have some questions in a day or two.


My suggestions for the MEPIS instructions on the web would be to 
resolve  which automake should be used (there were several versions 
available).  Apparently something more needs to be done for festival, 
which may be obvious, but I've never even heard of festival, so it 
will require a little detective work.  It seems like the bleeding edge 
version is recommended over STABLE.  Why wouldn't STABLE be 
recommended for the masses?


In conclusion -- Great Job guys  Thanks so much!
Rob


Lee Bengston wrote:

On 2/4/10, Rob Neece k...@cox.net wrote:

Curt,

I am very interested in getting this working, and your time is much
appreciated. I have to go take care of some business now and will get
back to this later this evening. If it appears most useful for me to
learn how to compile xastir, my work is cut out for me. I can probably
get some help from the MEPIS forum, but is there a latest-and-greatest
cookbook howto on compiling xastir?


http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:MEPIS_8.0

There is now.  I like Mepis and have intended to do this for a long
time.  Being Debian based, the procedure is very similar to the one
for Ubuntu.  I did a clean install of Mepis 8.0.15 last weekend, and I
hadn't installed Xastir yet, so the timing was good.

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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread gdw
OK, just did a few checks and see that the automake1.9 is not 
specifically required anymore. The basic automake should be fine.  To be 
truthful it was left over from a previous instruction set that I had, an 
earlier version of Mepis seemed to want to install a less that the 
latest version of Automake and it was know to cause problems.  So I had 
it down to use v1.9.  The get-maptools.sh script will take care of the 
Geotiff capability.  However when I just tried to run it for my new test 
install the GDAL section errored out.  So the script itself seems to 
have a problem for that one program.


Gale
KC4PL

On 2/6/2010 8:03 PM, Rob Neece wrote:
I tested the build directions and tried to integrate the help from Lee 
(K5DAT) and Gale (KC4PL).   Lee's instructions are on the web as given 
below, and Gale's instructions appeared in an email.  As it turned 
out, Lee's instructions were generally a super-set of the instructions 
given by Gale, so that is mostly what I followed.  The install was 
mostly successful.  A few notes on what I did follow:


Installing packages
 used automake1.9 instead of automake {per Gale} (was this a good idea?)
 did a great number of additional installs based (per Lee)

Setting up .cvsrc
 I made a typo, so when the file ran, -z3 was not applied.  It 
probably didn't matter.


Getting the source
 I chose to get STABLE, figuring I could easily go to the bleeding 
edge, but going back might be hard.


Shell scripts
 Gale suggests running ./get-maptools.sh in ~/src/xastir.  The script 
didn't exist, so I skipped it.


Libraries
 I built the proj.4 library as suggested, but skipped libgeotiff, 
since it sounded unnecessary for me.

 In retrospect,  it would have been good to do it -- very easy, why not?

Install xastir
 I got the expected results, except GeoTiff and GDAL capabilities are 
not available.


festival
 running festival --server  fails due to no default voice found ...

xastir
 running xastir seems to work great, but there are some messages at 
the console

 see below


r...@hawk:~/src/xastir/build$ xastir
Making user dir
Making user config dir
Making user data dir
Making user log dir
Making user tracklogs dir
Making user tmp dir
Making user gps dir
Making map_cache dir


Built-in map types:
 gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
  map   APRSdos Maps
  map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
  pdb   PocketAPRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
  geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many 
formats allowed)

  geo   URL (Internet maps via wget)
  shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
  xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
Making user /home/rtn/.xastir/config/xastir.cnf file
client(1) Sat Feb  6 18:53:30 2010 : accepted from localhost
Indexing maps...
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
Finished indexing maps
*** Reading WX Alert log files
*** Done with WX Alert log files
convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too 
low):18446744073677686016

convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too high):161465600


I set up xaster to use tigermap.geo, and I'm very pleased.  Now I'm 
sure I will have some questions in a day or two.


My suggestions for the MEPIS instructions on the web would be to 
resolve  which automake should be used (there were several versions 
available).  Apparently something more needs to be done for festival, 
which may be obvious, but I've never even heard of festival, so it 
will require a little detective work.  It seems like the bleeding edge 
version is recommended over STABLE.  Why wouldn't STABLE be 
recommended for the masses?


In conclusion -- Great Job guys  Thanks so much!
Rob


Lee Bengston wrote:

On 2/4/10, Rob Neece k...@cox.net wrote:

Curt,

I am very interested in getting this working, and your time is much
appreciated. I have to go take care of some business now and will get
back to this later this evening. If it appears most useful for me to
learn how to compile xastir, my work is cut out for me. I can probably
get some help from the MEPIS forum, but is there a latest-and-greatest
cookbook howto on compiling xastir?


http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:MEPIS_8.0

There is now.  I like Mepis and have intended to do this for a long
time.  Being Debian based, the procedure is very similar to the one
for Ubuntu.  I did a clean install of Mepis 8.0.15 last weekend, and I
hadn't installed Xastir yet, so the timing was good.

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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 08:03:38PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the k...@cox.net flavor, containing:
 
 Libraries
   I built the proj.4 library as suggested, but skipped libgeotiff, since 
 it sounded unnecessary for me.
   In retrospect,  it would have been good to do it -- very easy, why not?

There's no point in building proj.4 and not libgeotiff --- Xastir uses proj.4
only for its geotiff code.  

 Install xastir
   I got the expected results, except GeoTiff and GDAL capabilities are 
 not available.

GDAL is pretty much unnecessary.  Xastir's use of GDAL is currently so limited 
that you will probably never benefit from it.  It allows use of some esoteric
map types, but only a few of them look good --- only those that have been
special cased, such as raw TIGER/Line files.  And those are so slow you might
as well use the TIGER shapefiles instead.

 festival
   running festival --server  fails due to no default voice found ...

You need to configure festival and add a voice package.  Can't give quick 
advice there, though.

 xastir
   running xastir seems to work great, but there are some messages at the 
 console
   see below
 
 Indexing maps...
 draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
 draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
 draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
 draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error

Must be a .geo file with bad info in it.

 Finished indexing maps
 *** Reading WX Alert log files
 *** Done with WX Alert log files
 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too 
 low):18446744073677686016
 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too high):161465600

This means that some map tried to draw out of range.  It happens most of the 
time when you're zoomed so that the entire world is visible.  But it can
also happen if you have a bad map.

What map are you displaying?  At what zoom level?

 My suggestions for the MEPIS instructions on the web would be to 
 resolve  which automake should be used (there were several versions 
 available).  Apparently something more needs to be done for festival, 
 which may be obvious, but I've never even heard of festival, so it will 
 require a little detective work.  It seems like the bleeding edge 
 version is recommended over STABLE.  Why wouldn't STABLE be recommended 
 for the masses?

The main reason is because there's only one developer who does the releases,
and we've not been doing stable releases as often as there used to be.  That's 
because Curt has to do a lot of work to kick 'em out the door, and he's been 
busy with his day job and non-open-source life.  He hasn't even had time to do 
the development snapshots that used to be done in between releases.  There was 
about a year between release 1.9.4 and 1.9.6, though 1.9.8 came out a few 
months later.

Since Stable releases aren't happening with any real frequency, if you want bug
fixes you pretty much have to track CVS.

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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 08:36:41PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the g...@kc4pl.com flavor, containing:
 OK, just did a few checks and see that the automake1.9 is not 
 specifically required anymore. The basic automake should be fine.  To be 
 truthful it was left over from a previous instruction set that I had, an 
 earlier version of Mepis seemed to want to install a less that the 
 latest version of Automake and it was know to cause problems.  So I had 
 it down to use v1.9.  The get-maptools.sh script will take care of the 
 Geotiff capability.  However when I just tried to run it for my new test 
 install the GDAL section errored out.  So the script itself seems to 
 have a problem for that one program.

I think the issue is that nobody is maintaining get-maptools anymore, and 
the versions listed in it for some programs are out of date. 

I don't recommend using get-maptools.  Dan Brown did a good job writing it
back in 2006, and it helped a lot of people.  It was a boon back when few 
systems had proj, geotiff, pcre, and shapelib, but now most systems do, and 
the packages can  (and should, in most cases) be installed from repositories 
instead of from source.  And GDAL support is mostly a waste of time in Xastir 
--- I wouldn't recommend that any user install it unless they actually need 
it for something else (like I do).  It is a great library, but Xastir's use of 
it is pretty much not worth the trouble.

Building libgeotiff is almost a no-brainer:

  wget http://dl.maptools.org/dl/geotiff/libgeotiff/libgeotiff-1.2.3.tar.gz
  tar xzf libgeotiff-1.2.3.tar.gz
  cd libgeotiff-1.2.3
  ./configure --with-ld-shared=gcc -shared
  make
  sudo make install

That's all that get-maptools does.

The with-ld-shared thing is necessary for all 1.2.x versions of libgeotiff, 
because those versions incorrectly used ld -shared which broke with modern
versions of gcc.

You can just build libgeotiff with those 6 commands, then just reconfigure and 
rebuild Xastir.  Adding geotiff support once you've got all the other stuff 
working takes only a few minutes.

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Re: [Xastir] Postgres-postgis problems still

2010-02-06 Thread Mike L
Ok Ive been researching this problem and the error which proceeds the crash
when I bring up :

Postgres Insert query failed:ERROR:  new row for relation simplestation
violates check constraint enforce_srid_position
Segmentation fault

From what Ive been reading, this error occurs when the SRID (4326) is not
present in the query.  Is this true? Anyone know why?


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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread Rob Neece

Gale,

thanks for your help. I'm glad that I could give you some information to 
edit your procedure.


Rob

gdw wrote:
OK, just did a few checks and see that the automake1.9 is not 
specifically required anymore. The basic automake should be fine. To 
be truthful it was left over from a previous instruction set that I 
had, an earlier version of Mepis seemed to want to install a less that 
the latest version of Automake and it was know to cause problems. So I 
had it down to use v1.9. The get-maptools.sh script will take care of 
the Geotiff capability. However when I just tried to run it for my new 
test install the GDAL section errored out. So the script itself seems 
to have a problem for that one program.


Gale
KC4PL

On 2/6/2010 8:03 PM, Rob Neece wrote:
I tested the build directions and tried to integrate the help from 
Lee (K5DAT) and Gale (KC4PL). Lee's instructions are on the web as 
given below, and Gale's instructions appeared in an email. As it 
turned out, Lee's instructions were generally a super-set of the 
instructions given by Gale, so that is mostly what I followed. The 
install was mostly successful. A few notes on what I did follow:


Installing packages
used automake1.9 instead of automake {per Gale} (was this a good idea?)
did a great number of additional installs based (per Lee)

Setting up .cvsrc
I made a typo, so when the file ran, -z3 was not applied. It probably 
didn't matter.


Getting the source
I chose to get STABLE, figuring I could easily go to the bleeding 
edge, but going back might be hard.


Shell scripts
Gale suggests running ./get-maptools.sh in ~/src/xastir. The script 
didn't exist, so I skipped it.


Libraries
I built the proj.4 library as suggested, but skipped libgeotiff, 
since it sounded unnecessary for me.

In retrospect, it would have been good to do it -- very easy, why not?

Install xastir
I got the expected results, except GeoTiff and GDAL capabilities are 
not available.


festival
running festival --server  fails due to no default voice found ...

xastir
running xastir seems to work great, but there are some messages at 
the console

see below


r...@hawk:~/src/xastir/build$ xastir
Making user dir
Making user config dir
Making user data dir
Making user log dir
Making user tracklogs dir
Making user tmp dir
Making user gps dir
Making map_cache dir


Built-in map types:
gnis USGS GNIS Datapoints
map APRSdos Maps
map WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
pdb PocketAPRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
geo Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats allowed)
geo URL (Internet maps via wget)
shp ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
xpm X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
Making user /home/rtn/.xastir/config/xastir.cnf file
client(1) Sat Feb 6 18:53:30 2010 : accepted from localhost
Indexing maps...
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
draw_geo_image_map:sscanf parsing error
Finished indexing maps
*** Reading WX Alert log files
*** Done with WX Alert log files
convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too 
low):18446744073677686016

convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too high):161465600


I set up xaster to use tigermap.geo, and I'm very pleased. Now I'm 
sure I will have some questions in a day or two.


My suggestions for the MEPIS instructions on the web would be to 
resolve which automake should be used (there were several versions 
available). Apparently something more needs to be done for festival, 
which may be obvious, but I've never even heard of festival, so it 
will require a little detective work. It seems like the bleeding edge 
version is recommended over STABLE. Why wouldn't STABLE be 
recommended for the masses?


In conclusion -- Great Job guys Thanks so much!
Rob


Lee Bengston wrote:

On 2/4/10, Rob Neece k...@cox.net wrote:

Curt,

I am very interested in getting this working, and your time is much
appreciated. I have to go take care of some business now and will get
back to this later this evening. If it appears most useful for me to
learn how to compile xastir, my work is cut out for me. I can probably
get some help from the MEPIS forum, but is there a latest-and-greatest
cookbook howto on compiling xastir?


http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:MEPIS_8.0

There is now. I like Mepis and have intended to do this for a long
time. Being Debian based, the procedure is very similar to the one
for Ubuntu. I did a clean install of Mepis 8.0.15 last weekend, and I
hadn't installed Xastir yet, so the timing was good.

Lee - K5DAT
Murphy, TX
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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread Rob Neece

Tom,

Thanks for the help. I just did the following:

1) renamed the ~/src/xastir to ~/src/xasterSTABLE

2) mkdir ~/src/xaster

3) built libmotif-1.2.5

4) ran the following to prepare for xastir -

cd ~/src
cvs -d:pserver:anonym...@xastir.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xastir login
cvs -d:pserver:anonym...@xastir.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/xastir co xastir
cd xastir
./bootstrap.sh

5) installed xastir, bleeding edge

6) got the following results -



xastir 1.9.9 has been configured to use the following
options and external libraries:

MINIMUM OPTIONS:
 ShapeLib (Vector maps) . : yes

RECOMMENDED OPTIONS:
 GraphicsMagick/ImageMagick (Raster maps) : yes (GraphicsMagick)
 pcre (Shapefile customization) . : yes
 dbfawk (Shapefile customization) ... : yes
 rtree indexing (Shapefile speedups)  : yes
 map caching (Raster map speedups) .. : yes
 internet map retrieval . : yes (wget)

FOR THE ADVENTUROUS:
 AX25 (Linux Kernel I/O Drivers)  : yes
 libproj (USGS Topos  Aerial Photos) ... : yes
 GeoTiff (USGS Topos  Aerial Photos) ... : yes
 Festival (Text-to-speech) .. : yes
 GDAL/OGR (Obtuse map formats) .. : no
 GPSMan/gpsmanshp (GPS downloads) ... : yes

xastir will be installed in /usr/local/bin.
Type 'make' to build Xastir (Use 'gmake' instead on some systems).
r...@hawk:~/src/xastir/build$
r...@hawk:~/src/xastir/build$ xastir


Built-in map types:
 gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
  map   APRSdos Maps
  map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
  pdb   PocketAPRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
  geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats allowed)
  geo   URL (Internet maps via wget)
  shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
  xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
client(2) Sat Feb  6 21:52:07 2010 : accepted from localhost
Indexing maps...
Finished indexing maps
*** Reading WX Alert log files
*** Done with WX Alert log files


Note that I didn't do anything about having automake1.9 installed versus 
automake. Should I do something about that? Is it as easy as removing 
one and installing the other? My assumption is that the right version 
needs to be there when xastir is compiled.


Rob

Tom Russo wrote:

bla bla bla ...
Building libgeotiff is almost a no-brainer:

  wget http://dl.maptools.org/dl/geotiff/libgeotiff/libgeotiff-1.2.3.tar.gz
  tar xzf libgeotiff-1.2.3.tar.gz
  cd libgeotiff-1.2.3
  ./configure --with-ld-shared=gcc -shared
  make
  sudo make install

That's all that get-maptools does.

The with-ld-shared thing is necessary for all 1.2.x versions of libgeotiff, 
because those versions incorrectly used ld -shared which broke with modern

versions of gcc.

You can just build libgeotiff with those 6 commands, then just reconfigure and 
rebuild Xastir.  Adding geotiff support once you've got all the other stuff 
working takes only a few minutes.


  

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Re: [Xastir] map problem on MEPIS

2010-02-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 10:00:35PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the k...@cox.net flavor, containing:
 
 Note that I didn't do anything about having automake1.9 installed versus 
 automake. Should I do something about that? Is it as easy as removing 
 one and installing the other? My assumption is that the right version 
 needs to be there when xastir is compiled.

Automake is only used when you do the ./bootstrap step.  As long as the 
version is recent enough, it's fine.  Automake is used to generate the 
Makefile.in files from Makefile.am.  If you get to the point where you can 
build xastir, your version of automake works.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I think the whole automake1.9 thing was because when the instructions were 
initially written, the default automake was old enough that it didn't work.
If yours is working fine, it's probably 1.9 or later (the recent version of
automake is 1.10.x, I think, and you can check what is installed on your system 
with automake --version).

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Re: [Xastir] Installing Xastir on Mepis

2010-02-06 Thread Lee Bengston
On 2/5/10, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, g...@kc4pl.com wrote:

 Note: The following is a quick and dirty rough draft that assumes you are
 familiar with Linux basics.  I did give it quick once over, but all
 spelling
 and grammar errors are included free of charge.

 Hi Gale,

 Can either Lee or yourself merge the two MEPIS 8.0 instructions on
 the Wiki together?  Lee created a new Wiki page for MEPIS yesterday.
 Here's what Lee said:

I really didn't want to merge in a procedure that used the
get-maptools script.  Although it probably still works, it installs
some things from source that are readily available from the Debian
repo's, and the few things that are still recommended to be installed
from source are newer versions that are already documented in the Wiki
page.  I think Tom pretty much explained it in the other thread in
more detail.

Thx,
Lee - K5DAT
Murphy, TX
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Re: [Xastir] Mepis install with a few typos corrected

2010-02-06 Thread Lee Bengston
On 2/6/10, gdw g...@kc4pl.com wrote:
 Note: The following is a quick and dirty rough draft that assumes you
 are familiar with Linux basics.  I did give it quick once over, but all
 spelling and grammar errors are included free of charge.  (Revision 2 -
 fixed 2 typos and added a couple of notes)

 Gale
 KC4PL

 I am writing this as if you have just finished installing Mepis (V8.x)
 and now want to do a full compile and install of Xastir.

 1. Start the Synaptic Package Manager (you will be required to enter
 your root password)
 2. Click on Reload to update the package lists

 Note:  If this is a fresh install I would recommend clicking on Mark
 All Upgrades and Apply to get all the security patches and other
 upgrades for your system.

 3.  Mark the following files for install:
 Note that is some cases you will only select a dev package, the system
 will then auto select the base package for you.
 You can scroll through the list looking for the packages or just use the
 Search box.

a. libmotif-dev  (will auto mark for install libmotif3)
b. graphicsmagick-libmagick-dev-com
c. xorg-dev
d. x11proto-print-dev
e. libshp-dev  (will auto mark for install libshp1)
f. cvs
e. build-essential
f. autoconf
g. automake1.9

 4. Click on apply to install the packages.
 5. After the packages have finished installing, exit Synaptic.
 6. Open a  Terminal Window for the following steps.
 7. Using nano (or your preferred editor) make a .cvsrc file with the
 following lines: (Note the . in front of the file name)
 cvs -z3
 update -P -d
 status -v
 diff -u
 7. enter the following commands on the command line:
 touch .cvspass  (again note the . in the file name)
 mkdir src
 cd src
 8. Now we will get the latest source code from the cvs repository
 9. type the following in on the command line and when it asks your for a
 password, just tap enter.
 cvs -d:pserver:anonym...@xastir.cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/xastir
 login
 10. type in the following to actually download the code
  cvs -d:pserver:anonym...@xastir.cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/xastir
 co xastir
 11. When it finishes, type in cd xastir on the command line to change to
 the new directory.  (This changes to ~/src/xastir)
 12. type in cd scripts on the command line (This changes to
 ~/src/xastir/scripts)
 12. type in su on the command line, enter the root password when asked
 for it.
 13. type in ./get-maptools.sh on the command line
 14. when the above has finished, type in exit on the command line to
 exit from su.
 15. type in cd .. to return to the xastir directory.
 16. now we start the compile and install of Xastir.
 17. type in ./bootstrap.sh on the command line
 18. when this finishes, type in ./configure on the command line
 19. when this finishes, type in make on the command line
 20. when make finishes, we are ready for the final install.
 21. type in su on the command line, enter the root password when it asks
 for it.
 22. type in make install-strip on the command line
 22. when make install finishes, type in chmod 4555 /usr/local/bin/xastir
 on the command line
 23. type in exit on the command line to exit su
 24. Xastir is now installed and ready for its first run.
 25 type in xastir  on the command line to start the program

 After you have set up the Xastir configuration you now have a basic
 install of Xastir that can be updated at any time by going to the xastir
 directory and typing in cvs update.  Then you would just repeat steps 18
 to 23.


I recommend doing the following for a quick and dirty install in Mepis
8, which is a modified version of the steps above:

Install the packages below either via the Synaptic package manager or
or apt-get install in a terminal window.

1. build-essential
2. cvs
3. automake (autoconf is auto-installed as a dependency)
4. xorg-dev
5. libmotif-dev
6. graphicsmagick (may find this already installed)
7. gv
8. libxp-dev (x11proto-print-dev is installed as a dependency)
9. libpcre3-dev
10. libdb4.6-dev
11. libgraphicsmagick1-dev

The above will provide the essentials plus raster map support via
graphicsmagick. Given shapelib is already provided internally,
shapfiles will also be supported.

Note: if you used apt-get install, make sure to type exit in the
terminal to get out of root mode before continuing on with the steps
below that are done with a terminal.

12. If not already open, open a terminal window for the following steps.
 (a terminal window opens automatically in your home directory, which
is where you want to be)
13. Using nano (or your preferred editor) make a .cvsrc file with the
 following lines: (Note the . in front of the file name)
  cvs -z3
  update -P -d
  status -v
  diff -u
14. Control-O saves the file, and Control-X exits if nano is the editor
15. Enter the following commands on the command line:
  touch .cvspass  (again note the . in the file name)
  mkdir src
  cd src
16. Now get the latest source