Re: [Xastir] NWS get problem

2012-11-26 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:33:05AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:
 On 11/25/2012 8:49 PM, Tom Russo wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:52:05PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
  collision of the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:
  When it rains..Here is the latest:
  jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ sudo
  /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdatasudo:
  /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata: command not found
  jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ I have tired even with the script from
  the readme startup file.
  This is getting exasperating.
  Does /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata actually exist?
 
  Did you install Xastir from source or from a binary package for your system?
 
 Tom and Curt.
 To answer you both.  Yes NWSdata does existI see it when I run ls.  
 I always install xastir from source so that's out.  And I do have wget 
 installed.

Please try this:

sudo sh -x /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata

This will tell the shell to spit out a line for each line of the script it
executes, and should pin down what command it's not finding.

Since the script itself exists, then obviously one or more of the programs
it uses is not on your system.  As Curt says, get-NWSdata uses wget, unzip, 
cut and rm.  I doubt that rm is the problem, so it's gotta be one of the 
others.

 BTW, did anyone figure out the adobe helvctia font problem I mentioned?  
 I can resend if it got swallowed in cyberspace.

I answered you within minutes of your post.  

Check that xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi are installed.  Recent versions of 
Ubuntu stopped making them required by the X packages, meaning that old 
programs like Xastir that depend on these old standard fonts for their default 
font choices get this kind of error.  I had the same problem when I 
installed Xastir on an Ubuntu 12.04 system.

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Re: [Xastir] Since the NWAPRS email list is down.....

2012-11-26 Thread Bill Vodall
Who were the offending stations?  Usually they're fairly easy to track
down.   How about an Bulletin on APRS?

(Yeah - I gotta get that list back on the air ASAP.)

Bill

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:34 AM, David Flood davi...@mindspring.com wrote:
 What's a good place to get out the word that everyone (and I mean EVERYONE)
 who's running an igate using UIView and/or a KPC tnc within hearing range
 of Seattle needs to do a full reboot/reset ASAP?

 During yesterday's Seattle Marathon there were enough delayed packets (via
 ISS) that it, at times, made tracking vehicles useless.  They jumped all
 over the map in ways that only a flying crow would be able to do

 Dave
 KD7MYC

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Re: [Xastir] Since the NWAPRS email list is down.....

2012-11-26 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, David Flood wrote:

What's a good place to get out the word that everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) 
who's running an igate using UIView and/or a KPC tnc within hearing range 
of Seattle needs to do a full reboot/reset ASAP?


Try the APRS list at tapr and the seatcp list at Wetnet.

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 84, Issue 10

2012-11-26 Thread happyexi
Hi,
from the sound of that your file
/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata dose not exist.
you can try ls /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts
to see if the directory and scripts are there.
is so is they set with the execute bit ? ls -la
/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts will tell you. if it exist but are not
execute bit present try sh /usr/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata or
sudo sh /usr/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata to run it as super user
on system using sudo.

if still no luck, check if the files lay in /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/

73
happyexi


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 When it rains..Here is the latest:
 jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ sudo 
 /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdatasudo: 
 /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata: command not found
 jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ I have tired even with the script from 
 the readme startup file.
 This is getting exasperating.
 Jim wa9arb
 
 
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:49:01 -0700
 From: Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org
 Subject: Re: [Xastir] NWS  get problem
 Message-ID: 20121126024901.ga90...@bogodyn.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:52:05PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
 collision of the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:
 When it rains..Here is the latest:
 jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ sudo 
 /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdatasudo: 
 /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata: command not found
 jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ I have tired even with the script from 
 the readme startup file.
 This is getting exasperating.
 
 Does /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata actually exist?
 
 Did you install Xastir from source or from a binary package for your system?
 
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Re: [Xastir] Since the NWAPRS email list is down.....

2012-11-26 Thread David Flood
I was more focused on tracking than on debugging and didn't have the 
incoming traffic window open.


But I'll bet the ISS history will show something.  One station that 
really jumped was N7FWZ-1.  Another was K7OFT-14 and two others were 
w7aka-5 and -6.


On 11/26/2012 11:42 AM, Bill Vodall wrote:

Who were the offending stations?  Usually they're fairly easy to track
down.   How about an Bulletin on APRS?

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:34 AM, David Flood davi...@mindspring.com wrote:

During yesterday's Seattle Marathon there were enough delayed packets (via
ISS) that it, at times, made tracking vehicles useless.  They jumped all
over the map in ways that only a flying crow would be able to do



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Re: [Xastir] Since the NWAPRS email list is down.....

2012-11-26 Thread David Flood

Hey Curt...how far off is that list of points from a fetch track file?

On 11/26/2012 2:23 PM, Bill Vodall wrote:

Too bad with don't have a good way to map these raw spots.


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Re: [Xastir] NWS get problem

2012-11-26 Thread James Jolin

On 11/26/2012 01:31 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:33:05AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:

On 11/25/2012 8:49 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:52:05PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:

When it rains..Here is the latest:
jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ sudo
/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdatasudo:
/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata: command not found
jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ I have tired even with the script from
the readme startup file.
This is getting exasperating.

Does /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata actually exist?

Did you install Xastir from source or from a binary package for your system?


Tom and Curt.
To answer you both.  Yes NWSdata does existI see it when I run ls.
I always install xastir from source so that's out.  And I do have wget
installed.

Please try this:

sudo sh -x /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata

This will tell the shell to spit out a line for each line of the script it
executes, and should pin down what command it's not finding.

Since the script itself exists, then obviously one or more of the programs
it uses is not on your system.  As Curt says, get-NWSdata uses wget, unzip,
cut and rm.  I doubt that rm is the problem, so it's gotta be one of the
others.


BTW, did anyone figure out the adobe helvctia font problem I mentioned?
I can resend if it got swallowed in cyberspace.

I answered you within minutes of your post.

Check that xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi are installed.  Recent versions of
Ubuntu stopped making them required by the X packages, meaning that old
programs like Xastir that depend on these old standard fonts for their default
font choices get this kind of error.  I had the same problem when I
installed Xastir on an Ubuntu 12.04 system.

Well Tom and Curt this whole thing is weird.  Here is what I got from 
your suggestion Tom and Curt:
jolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ sudo sh -x 
/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata

[sudo] password for jjolin:
+ FILE1=w_11oc12
+ FILE2=z_11oc12
+ FILE3=mz11oc12
+ FILE4=oz28jn12
+ FILE5=hz30mr09
+ FILE6=fz11oc12
+ FILE7=c_11oc12
+ dirname /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata
+ x=/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts
+ . /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/values
+ prefix=/usr/local
+ cd /usr/local/share/xastir/Counties
+ rm -f *.zip
+ DIR=wsom
+ [ -e w_11oc12.shp ]
+ cut -c1-2 -
+ echo w_11oc12
+ cut=w_
+ rm -f w_*.shx w_*.shp w_*.dbf w_*.prj w_*.zip
+ wget http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/w_11oc12.zip
--2012-11-26 16:58:28-- 
http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/w_11oc12.zip
Resolving www.weather.gov (www.weather.gov)... 216.165.156.10, 
216.165.156.18
Connecting to www.weather.gov (www.weather.gov)|216.165.156.10|:80... 
connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Moved Temporarily
Location: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/w_11oc12.zip 
[following]
--2012-11-26 16:58:28-- 
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/w_11oc12.zip
Resolving www.nws.noaa.gov (www.nws.noaa.gov)... 216.165.156.9, 
216.165.156.26
Connecting to www.nws.noaa.gov (www.nws.noaa.gov)|216.165.156.9|:80... 
connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 24352799 (23M) [application/zip]
Saving to: `w_11oc12.zip'

100%[==] 24,352,799 306K/s   in 82s

2012-11-26 16:59:50 (292 KB/s) - `w_11oc12.zip' saved [24352799/24352799]

+ unzip w_11oc12.zip
Archive:  w_11oc12.zip
  inflating: w_11oc12.shx
  inflating: w_11oc12.prj
  inflating: w_11oc12.dbf
  inflating: w_11oc12.shp
+ rm -f w_11oc12.zip
+ [ -e z_11oc12.shp ]
+ cut -c1-2 -
+ echo z_11oc12
+ cut=z_
+ rm -f z_*.shx z_*.shp z_*.dbf z_*.prj z_*.zip
+ wget http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/z_11oc12.zip
--2012-11-26 16:59:52-- 
http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/z_11oc12.zip
Resolving www.weather.gov (www.weather.gov)... 216.165.156.18, 
216.165.156.10
Connecting to www.weather.gov (www.weather.gov)|216.165.156.18|:80... 
connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Moved Temporarily
Location: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/z_11oc12.zip 
[following]
--2012-11-26 16:59:52-- 
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/data/z_11oc12.zip
Resolving www.nws.noaa.gov (www.nws.noaa.gov)... 216.165.156.9, 
216.165.156.26
Connecting to www.nws.noaa.gov (www.nws.noaa.gov)|216.165.156.9|:80... 
connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 21541186 (21M) [application/zip]
Saving to: `z_11oc12.zip'

100%[==] 21,541,186 305K/s   in 71s

2012-11-26 17:01:03 (297 KB/s) - `z_11oc12.zip' saved [21541186/21541186]

+ unzip z_11oc12.zip
Archive:  z_11oc12.zip
  inflating: z_11oc12.shx
  inflating: z_11oc12.dbf
  inflating: z_11oc12.prj
  inflating: z_11oc12.shp
+ rm -f z_11oc12.zip
+ [ -e 

Re: [Xastir] [ru...@bogodyn.org: Re: One more thing]

2012-11-26 Thread James Jolin

On 11/26/2012 01:31 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

Since you seem not to have received it through the list, here's what I said
in response to your initial fonts query.


Tom.
Got the font problem licked.  Thanks.  Now I would like to know what 
urls people are using for radar.  All those in the that zip file on 
xastir site are 404.  I seem to have heard that the NWS changed things.

_Jim wa9arb

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[Xastir] Radar urls

2012-11-26 Thread James Jolin
What are the urls that xastir users are using for radar.  I understand 
that the NWS changed everything and all the old urls are coming up 404.

Jim wa9arb

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Re: [Xastir] NWS get problem

2012-11-26 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:27:16PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:
 On 11/26/2012 01:31 PM, Tom Russo wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:33:05AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
  collision of the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:
  On 11/25/2012 8:49 PM, Tom Russo wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:52:05PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
  collision of the jjo...@itol.com flavor, containing:
  When it rains..Here is the latest:
  jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ sudo
  /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdatasudo:
  /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata: command not found
  jjolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ I have tired even with the script from
  the readme startup file.
  This is getting exasperating.
  Does /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata actually exist?
 
  Did you install Xastir from source or from a binary package for your 
  system?
 
  Tom and Curt.
  To answer you both.  Yes NWSdata does existI see it when I run ls.
  I always install xastir from source so that's out.  And I do have wget
  installed.
  Please try this:
 
  sudo sh -x /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata
 
  This will tell the shell to spit out a line for each line of the script it
  executes, and should pin down what command it's not finding.
 
[...]
 
 Well Tom and Curt this whole thing is weird.  Here is what I got from 
 your suggestion Tom and Curt:
 jolin@jjolin-Inspiron-8200 ~ $ sudo sh -x 
 /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata
[what looks like completely normal operation of the script]

This really points to the file not having execute permission.  If the file is 
not set to have execute permission, sudo would say command not found.  The
command line I gave you explicitly ran the script with sh rather than
relying on execute permissions, so that would explain how it works and the
other doesn't.

You did check execution permissions on that script, right?  I never saw you
respond to that question.  What exactly does 
ls -l /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata say?

And now that I look on *MY* system, NONE of the scripts in 
/usr/local/share/xastir/scripts have the execute permission set.
Did our install process *ever* set execute permission on these scripts before?
I can't think of anything that has changed recently to undo that.

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[Xastir] Why scripts are not executable anymore Re: NWS get problem

2012-11-26 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:25:24PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ru...@bogodyn.org flavor, containing:
 
 And now that I look on *MY* system, NONE of the scripts in 
 /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts have the execute permission set.
 Did our install process *ever* set execute permission on these scripts before?
 I can't think of anything that has changed recently to undo that.

Yes, I can.

Back in February I was forced to change scripts/Makefile.am because new 
versions of Automake refuse to accept certain combinations of instructions
like pkglib_SCRIPTS which once sent our scripts to /usr/local/lib/xastir --
It was always the case that only certain prefixes were intended to be used
with _SCRIPTS, but older versions of automake let it slide quietly when they
were misused.  These days pkglib is an illegal use for the _SCRIPTS primary,
and current versions of automake refuse to proceed.

This had to be changed just to get it to work, but with the side effect that
the scripts are now being installed as data instead of as scripts... i.e. 
they're not executable on install.  

This will obviously need to be fixed.  It may take some time to figure out
the correct Automake invocation to get it right.  It might require yet another
relocation of the scripts.  Grumble.

For now, just do a chmod u+x on the files in /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts.

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Re: [Xastir] Since the NWAPRS email list is down.....

2012-11-26 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, David Flood wrote:


Hey Curt...how far off is that list of points from a fetch track file?


Just need to remove the timestamp and the comma from the start of each line.

If one were to feed the packets into Xastir slowly, like with a shell script or 
Perl script, then one could see the stations jump around as the lines were 
being fed in and zero in on the culprit more easily.

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Re: [Xastir] Since the NWAPRS email list is down.....

2012-11-26 Thread Bill Vodall
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, David Flood wrote:

 Hey Curt...how far off is that list of points from a fetch track file?


 Just need to remove the timestamp and the comma from the start of each line.

Which is what you'd get at findu without the time=1 parameter.


 If one were to feed the packets into Xastir slowly, like with a shell script
 or Perl script, then one could see the stations jump around as the lines
 were being fed in and zero in on the culprit more easily.

I bet aprs.fi will show this directly...


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Re: [Xastir] Since the NWAPRS email list is down.....

2012-11-26 Thread Bill Vodall
From:

The result is priceless...  (Hey Herb)  I don't know about any
others...
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Re: [Xastir] Why scripts are not executable anymore Re: NWS get problem

2012-11-26 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:43:14PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ru...@bogodyn.org flavor, containing:
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:25:24PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
 collision of the ru...@bogodyn.org flavor, containing:
  
  And now that I look on *MY* system, NONE of the scripts in 
  /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts have the execute permission set.
  Did our install process *ever* set execute permission on these scripts 
  before?
  I can't think of anything that has changed recently to undo that.
 
 Yes, I can.
 
 Back in February I was forced to change scripts/Makefile.am because new 
 versions of Automake refuse to accept certain combinations of instructions
 like pkglib_SCRIPTS which once sent our scripts to /usr/local/lib/xastir --
 It was always the case that only certain prefixes were intended to be used
 with _SCRIPTS, but older versions of automake let it slide quietly when they
 were misused.  These days pkglib is an illegal use for the _SCRIPTS primary,
 and current versions of automake refuse to proceed.
 
 This had to be changed just to get it to work, but with the side effect that
 the scripts are now being installed as data instead of as scripts... i.e. 
 they're not executable on install.  
 
 This will obviously need to be fixed.  It may take some time to figure out
 the correct Automake invocation to get it right.  It might require yet another
 relocation of the scripts.  Grumble.
 
 For now, just do a chmod u+x on the files in /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts.

I've hacked the build system so scripts are once again installed as executables,
without moving the install directory again.

A cvs update followed by a new bootstrap, configure, and install will make it
right.

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