Re: [Xastir] Starting xastir.

2016-05-18 Thread Norm McMillan 
Tom,
I'm coming to realize that! Don't think I'm quite ready to build just
yet... It's been too long. Maybe when I'm back up to speed---  and have a
day to lose :-)

norm
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On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Tom Russo  wrote:

> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 09:29:12AM +1000, we recorded a bogon-computron
> collision of the  flavor, containing:
> > David, Tom,
> > Thanks for the help. It's all coming back out the way it went in...
> > slowly   :-)
> > No sign of icon.png for xastir on build 2.0.0-2.1ubuntu1 but no matter.
> > Launching from the main menu with the default icon.
>
> Xastir 2.0.0 is *ANCIENT*.  You are much better off pitching that and
> building
> from source.  The current version is 2.0.7, released in April, 2015.  2.0.0
> was released in October 2010.  There have been bug fixes and compatibility
> updates since then that are important to get.
>
> One of those was the introduction the icon file, which happened in
> October 2012.  That's why you don't have it.
>
> Clearly, whoever created the Xastir package on your system has abandoned
> the
> package and not kept it current.  You will be much better served building
> from source.
>
> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Tom Russo  wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 06:15:30PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > > collision of the  flavor, containing:
> > > > I would guess the .desktop goes in the root of you home directory
> > > (/home/UID). Don't know about the icon. You could make one :)
> > >
> > > The .desktop file more likely goes in the "Desktop" subdirectory of
> your
> > > home directory.  At least, that's where normal gnome desktops expect
> them.
> > >
> > > There is an icon installed by the Xastir build.  It'll be in the share
> > > directory that got installed.  If you used a default prefix in a source
> > > build of Xastir, that'll be /usr/local/share/xastir/symbols/icon.png.
> If
> > > a package-installed build from a repo, it'd be in /usr/share instead of
> > > /usr/local/share.
> > >
> > > On my Ubuntu laptop, the Xastir.desktop file I created is:
> > >
> > > [Desktop Entry]
> > > Version=1.0
> > > Encoding=UTF-8
> > > Name=Xastir
> > > Type=Application
> > > Terminal=false
> > > Exec=xastir
> > > Comment=APRS
> > > Icon=/usr/local/share/xastir/symbols/icon.png
> > >
> > > There are old threads that might tell you to set LOCALE here, but those
> > > are obsolete and bad advice.  At least one user (me) found that doing
> that
> > > in
> > > the .desktop file caused Xastir to stop responding to keyboard events
> in
> > > dialog boxes after a little while.  Motif bug.
> > >
> > > > > On May 18, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Norm McMillan 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good morning,
> > > > >
> > > > > trolled around a few threads re starting xastir from a terminal or
> > > from a
> > > > > .desktop. At the moment I'm starting it from a terminal, which of
> > > course
> > > > > stays open behind the application.
> > > > > Writing a .desktop is trivial... but
> > > > >
> > > > > Where do I put it?
> > > > > Where do I find the icon?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm back to linux after 10 or so years in the Windows commercial
> > > world, so
> > > > > please excuse the noob questions. Last was kubuntu 6.06 on a
> Toshiba
> > > A10
> > > > > laptop!
> > > > >
> > > > > norm
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> [n-z][a-m]
>
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Re: [Xastir] Starting xastir.

2016-05-18 Thread David Lane 
I would guess the .desktop goes in the root of you home directory (/home/UID). 
Don't know about the icon. You could make one :)


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> On May 18, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Norm McMillan  wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> trolled around a few threads re starting xastir from a terminal or from a
> .desktop. At the moment I'm starting it from a terminal, which of course
> stays open behind the application.
> Writing a .desktop is trivial... but
> 
> Where do I put it?
> Where do I find the icon?
> 
> I'm back to linux after 10 or so years in the Windows commercial world, so
> please excuse the noob questions. Last was kubuntu 6.06 on a Toshiba A10
> laptop!
> 
> norm
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Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start

2016-05-18 Thread Norm McMillan 
Thanks. Told ya I was tired! :-)

Norm
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On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Iain R. Learmonth 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 18/05/16 11:44, Norm McMillan wrote:
> > Iain,
> > tried
> > *sudo adduser myusername dialout*
> > got the expected response but still have to start xastir as root *sudo
> > xastir* to start the serial port.
>
> You will need to log out and log in again in order to have the new group
> membership take effect.
>
> Thanks,
> Iain.
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Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start

2016-05-18 Thread Iain R. Learmonth 
Hi,

On 18/05/16 11:44, Norm McMillan wrote:
> Iain,
> tried
> *sudo adduser myusername dialout*
> got the expected response but still have to start xastir as root *sudo
> xastir* to start the serial port.

You will need to log out and log in again in order to have the new group
membership take effect.

Thanks,
Iain.

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Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start

2016-05-18 Thread Norm McMillan 
Iain,
tried
*sudo adduser myusername dialout*
got the expected response but still have to start xastir as root *sudo
xastir* to start the serial port.

It's been a long day so I'll look at it tomorrow. Thanks all for you help,
at least I know the problem, if not the answer :-)

Norm
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On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:18 PM, David Lane  wrote:

> Yeah, I was only thinking about the serial port. No coffee yet. It's a
> common thing to forget you need elevated privileges for serial access. One
> of those hardwired responses. Yours is a much better answer.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> > On May 18, 2016, at 6:12 AM, Iain R. Learmonth 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >> On 18/05/16 11:08, David Lane wrote:
> >> Are you in the root/wheel group?  Serial needs to be started with root.
> >
> > :/
> >
> > On Debian systems, and its derivatives like Ubuntu, you can do:
> >
> > sudo adduser YOURUSERNAME dialout
> >
> > The dialout group is allowed to access the serial ports (historically
> > would have had a modem attached to them hence the name of the group).
> >
> > You should not need to be root to use a serial port, and this is pretty
> > bad practice.
> >
> > In recent versions of the Xastir Debian package, you also do not need to
> > be root to use the Linux kernel's AX.25 stack. You can add yourself to
> > the xastir-ax25 group using the same command as long as you enabled
> > non-root access when you installed the package.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Iain.
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Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start

2016-05-18 Thread Norm McMillan 
Umm... no. Let me just try that

Norm
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On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM, David Lane  wrote:

> Are you in the root/wheel group?  Serial needs to be started with root.
>
>
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> > On May 18, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Norm McMillan  wrote:
> >
> > OK, I'm no noob, more like a "born again", and it has been a few years
> so I
> > may be missing something.
> > Ubuntu 14.04
> > Dell Optiplex 755
> > Paccomm Tiny2
> > xastir 2.0.0-2.1ubuntu1
> >
> > The Internet interface starts and runs just fine
> > Serial port, not so much. When I try to start it just sits there. no
> error
> > message.
> >
> > Set up for
> > Serial TNC on /dev/ttyS0
> > 9600 8N1
> > tnc-startup.tnc2
> > tnc-stop-sys
> >
> > Interestingly gtkterm finds and communicates with the tnc no problem
> using
> > thos prams., minicom not!
> >
> > I guess I'm missing something?
> >
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Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start

2016-05-18 Thread David Lane 
Sorry, you said Ubuntu - sudo. 


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> On May 18, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Norm McMillan  wrote:
> 
> OK, I'm no noob, more like a "born again", and it has been a few years so I
> may be missing something.
> Ubuntu 14.04
> Dell Optiplex 755
> Paccomm Tiny2
> xastir 2.0.0-2.1ubuntu1
> 
> The Internet interface starts and runs just fine
> Serial port, not so much. When I try to start it just sits there. no error
> message.
> 
> Set up for
> Serial TNC on /dev/ttyS0
> 9600 8N1
> tnc-startup.tnc2
> tnc-stop-sys
> 
> Interestingly gtkterm finds and communicates with the tnc no problem using
> thos prams., minicom not!
> 
> I guess I'm missing something?
> 
> Norm, vk3xci
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