Re: [Xastir] New user to xastir program

[David Ranch]

Hello Russell,

Well David, What I was doing on my Windows 7, Cross County Wireless 
(CCW) APRS Messager it would APRS signal from HF ( PSK 63-MFSK 16 and 
others) and with the program it would send it to the internet. Also I 
was doing ProPNet on the HF as wellMessager has it TNC , Now along 
with messager I was using UZ7HO program for AX25 in the same way, and 
when Message would tx, so would UZ7HO would to, using Kiss port 4000 
between the two.


Ok, I've heard of Cross Country Wireless but I've never used it.  I read 
up on "Messager" program and it seems to be an all in one digital modes 
+ AX.25 + APRS program in one



Now that I can get messager to run wine, but I can get UZ7HO to work 
in wine to 300 buad on HF.  ? will xastir key the Radio using vox.. 
and do APRS Beacon using my location and then,  I have other question 
about Mint18 because I am a newbie on this OS, S I can use all the 
help I can get.


All of my APRS and ProPNet work has been on the HF bands mostly on 30m.


I encourage you to try running native programs and NOT run Wine. Giving 
comparables:


Windows7 : Mint 18
UZ7HO using TCP-KISS : Direwolf using TCP-KISS
CCW Messenger : DIrewolf APRS (sending objects and being an iGate only)
CCW Messenger : Xastir APRS (GUI to show icons on maps, send messages, etc)

Beyond that, no one Linux program supports all the modes that CCW 
Messenger *but* you CAN get very close if you run Fldigi for the digital 
modes, link it into Linux's AX.25 stack, and then run programs like 
Xastir.  I've done this very thing and it's written up here: 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#16b.hf-ax25 
.  It's a complex path to get all that going but once done, your setup 
will be able to do what you want and a whole lot more too.


To your other questions:

   - Direwolf DOES support 300BAUD AFSK packet and supports some PSK 
modes but it doesn't support PSK63
 - It does support other modes too: 
https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf/raw/dev/doc/2400-4800-PSK-for-APRS-Packet-Radio.pdf

   - Fldigi does support PSK63 and many many other modes

   - Xastir doesn't work with the radio, the software TNC does
  - Yes, Direwolf can use VOX but it's best to use serial port 
controlled PTT - page 64 - 
https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf/raw/dev/doc/User-Guide.pdf


--David
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Re: [Xastir] New user to xastir program

[Russell Blair]

Well David, What I was doing on my Windows 7, Cross County Wireless 
(CCW) APRS Messager it would APRS signal from HF ( PSK 63-MFSK 16 and 
others) and with the program it would send it to the internet. Also I 
was doing ProPNet on the HF as wellMessager has it TNC , Now along 
with messager I was using UZ7HO program for AX25 in the same way, and 
when Message would tx, so would UZ7HO would to, using Kiss port 4000 
between the two.


Now that I can get messager to run wine, but I can get UZ7HO to work in 
wine to 300 buad on HF.  ? will xastir key the Radio using vox.. and do 
APRS Beacon using my location and then,  I have other question about 
Mint18 because I am a newbie on this OS, S I can use all the help I can get.


All of my APRS and ProPNet work has been on the HF bands mostly on 30m.

Thanks  Daivd


Russell NC5O


On 8/6/2016 3:58 PM, David Ranch wrote:


Hello Russell,

It all depends on how you intend to use Xastir:

  - Connected to a radio listening to 144.390 (RF) or just an Internet 
connection
  - If RF, what kind of TNC are you going to use (hardware TNC or a 
software TNC)
  - If a hardware TNC, are you going to run it in command mode or KISS 
mode


There is lots of flexibility here so you're going to need to read some 
of the documentation:


   http://xastir.sourceforge.net/docs.php   (currently pointing to the 
Sourceforge CVS docs.. needs to goto the Github git version some day)

 - see the install guide and the FAQ

I also have a write up here for using with a Kenwood D710 TNC in KISS 
mode with native Linux AX.25 support:
   - 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#19b4.xastir-running


--David
KI6ZHD


On 08/06/2016 09:43 AM, Russell Blair wrote:
I just loaded this software in Mint 18 and it loader fine now I need 
to config it to show me other station that are moving around on the 
map. My ham call is NC5O and in Texas, all that was put in the 
config, or maybe I need to ask if the program can show other stations 
moving. ?



Russell NC5O




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Re: [Xastir] New user to xastir program

[David Ranch]

Hello Russell,

It all depends on how you intend to use Xastir:

  - Connected to a radio listening to 144.390 (RF) or just an Internet 
connection
  - If RF, what kind of TNC are you going to use (hardware TNC or a 
software TNC)

  - If a hardware TNC, are you going to run it in command mode or KISS mode

There is lots of flexibility here so you're going to need to read some 
of the documentation:


   http://xastir.sourceforge.net/docs.php   (currently pointing to the 
Sourceforge CVS docs.. needs to goto the Github git version some day)

 - see the install guide and the FAQ

I also have a write up here for using with a Kenwood D710 TNC in KISS 
mode with native Linux AX.25 support:
   - 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#19b4.xastir-running


--David
KI6ZHD


On 08/06/2016 09:43 AM, Russell Blair wrote:
I just loaded this software in Mint 18 and it loader fine now I need 
to config it to show me other station that are moving around on the 
map. My ham call is NC5O and in Texas, all that was put in the config, 
or maybe I need to ask if the program can show other stations moving. ?



Russell NC5O




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Re: [Xastir] OSM Map Tiles

[Dick Smith]

On 08/02/2016 03:22 PM, Curt Mills wrote:

You need ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick library support compiled into
Xastir, not the GUI or command-line packages. So it's usually some
libraries (and some header files if compiling Xastir from sources) that
need installing. Check Xastir's Help->About to see if it uses IM or GM and
install the libraries that correspond.

Almost the same for wget/libcurl, except you just need the command-line
wget if Xastir was compiled to use that, or libcurl if it was set up for
Curl (and libcurl headers if you're compiling Xastir from sources to use
Curl).


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Dick Smith  wrote:


On 08/01/2016 05:22 PM, Curt Mills wrote:


Disable all maps in the Map Chooser. Turn off Auto Maps in the Map Menu.
Select exactly ONE map that you want in the Map Chooser and see if it
loads. Also start Xastir from an xterm so that you can look at that xterm
and see any error messages.

Do you have either curl or wget, and either GraphicsMagick or ImageMagick
installed & compiled into Xastir?

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Dick Smith  wrote:


Thanks, Curt.

That solved the problem with a laptop installation of Xastir very nicely.
It hasn't helped the Pi.  I didn't have ImageMagick installed so I
installed it.  Don't know whether it automatically syncs with Xastir or
not, but so far not tiles showing.

Dick
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Thanks, Curt for the suggestion.  Will check it out when I return home.  
I appreciate your help.



Dick

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[Xastir] New user to xastir program

[Russell Blair]

I just loaded this software in Mint 18 and it loader fine now I need to 
config it to show me other station that are moving around on the map. My 
ham call is NC5O and in Texas, all that was put in the config, or maybe 
I need to ask if the program can show other stations moving. ?



Russell NC5O


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