Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 12:23 AM MJ Inabnit > > Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies > LIKE ME! > > Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug > along on our diginodes. > > 73 > In addition to what Curt said... It's not a given that either of the 2 main authors that monitor this list owns a Kantronics TNC. Lee - K5DAT > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:56:49 AM PST Curt, WE7U wrote: > I've noticed a lot of people these days only do/recognize top-posting, so > I'm going against my better nature and top-posting this comment. > > 1) Which "author" are you talking about? We have many developers (16 at last > count), plus a whole lot of users who answer questions on the mailing list. > If a non-developer answers a question so much the better! Many users know a > whole lot more about using the program than some developers do plus it > frees up developer time for other activities. > > 2) Check the email thread to see if responses have gotten hidden that you > never read: > > 2a) Many people (including me) by default respond AFTER your text or > intersperse our answers in-between your questions. Many email packages hide > those responses underneath a little line that you have to click on to see. > > 2b) If multiple responses came in since you last checked your inbox and > you're in threaded mode, you probably only see the most recent response. > You need to dig a little to see all of them. > > Personally I use GMail, tell it NOT to thread, but then do most of my email > work inside Alpine on Linux: I'm not on the web-based or phone-based email > except in rare circumstances. I don't miss any responses due to threading > and no interspersed responses are hidden. > > For more info, see below, plus read other messages that may have been hidden > from you due to threading. +1000 ... -- Ken - N7IPB Email: n7...@wetnet.net JID: n7...@jabber.wetnet.net SvxLink Repeaters: http://pnw220.wetnet.net PGP Sig: F42B EF90 3CD3 31C7 3056 122E 993A 7B2E 5138 C42A “Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.” signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
I've noticed a lot of people these days only do/recognize top-posting, so I'm going against my better nature and top-posting this comment. 1) Which "author" are you talking about? We have many developers (16 at last count), plus a whole lot of users who answer questions on the mailing list. If a non-developer answers a question so much the better! Many users know a whole lot more about using the program than some developers do plus it frees up developer time for other activities. 2) Check the email thread to see if responses have gotten hidden that you never read: 2a) Many people (including me) by default respond AFTER your text or intersperse our answers in-between your questions. Many email packages hide those responses underneath a little line that you have to click on to see. 2b) If multiple responses came in since you last checked your inbox and you're in threaded mode, you probably only see the most recent response. You need to dig a little to see all of them. Personally I use GMail, tell it NOT to thread, but then do most of my email work inside Alpine on Linux: I'm not on the web-based or phone-based email except in rare circumstances. I don't miss any responses due to threading and no interspersed responses are hidden. For more info, see below, plus read other messages that may have been hidden from you due to threading. On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, Steve Rogers wrote: Believe David Ranch answered your message and broke down your errors on kpc3+ Kd5mkv Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Xastir on behalf of MJ Inabnit Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:23 AM To: xastir@lists.xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies LIKE ME! Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug along on our diginodes. 73 j On 11/26/18 8:50 AM, David Ranch wrote: Hello Danny, I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate (EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3 connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a digipeater only. For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support? WIDE1-1 only? WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only? Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)? You can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as: #example from https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html # sudo pip install aprslib python import aprslib aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234") quit () ## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)### . . . LTP 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2 2 APN382 3 APN382 4 APN382 These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+ v9.1 TNC. Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC. MYCALL EX0CK-1 0 Why is there a space in there? You should read the recommended APRS configuration setup from WB4APR - http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt . Specifically, you ideally put a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK" MYALIAS WIDE1-1 This is wrong. Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE MYDROP 0 MYNODE EX0CK-1 0 Why is there a space in here as well? PACLEN 0 Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't think it will hurt you TXDELAY 18 Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up? Until you get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something conservative like 30 (aka.. 300ms) UIDIGI ON WIDE1-1 Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well? --David KI6ZHD ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- wishing you well Jaye, ke6sls--via the toshiba w/thunderchicken ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
Danny emailed me off-list with a few follow up questions and I think he's closer now but still not 100%. --David KI6ZHD Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies LIKE ME! Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug along on our diginodes. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
Believe David Ranch answered your message and broke down your errors on kpc3+ Kd5mkv Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Xastir on behalf of MJ Inabnit Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:23 AM To: xastir@lists.xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies LIKE ME! Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug along on our diginodes. 73 j On 11/26/18 8:50 AM, David Ranch wrote: > > Hello Danny, > > >> I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate >> (EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well >> with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on >> www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the >> same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a >> digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone >> and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3 >> connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a >> digipeater only. > > For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support? WIDE1-1 > only? WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only? > > Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is > beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)? You > can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as: > >#example from > https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html ># >sudo pip install aprslib >python >import aprslib >aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234") >quit () > > > >> ## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)### >> > . . . >> LTP >> 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2 >> 2 APN382 >> 3 APN382 >> 4 APN382 > > These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+ > v9.1 TNC. Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC. > > >> MYCALL EX0CK-1 0 > > Why is there a space in there? You should read the recommended APRS > configuration setup from WB4APR - > http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt . Specifically, you ideally put > a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK" > > > >> MYALIAS WIDE1-1 > > This is wrong. Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE > > >> MYDROP 0 >> MYNODE EX0CK-1 0 > > Why is there a space in here as well? > > >> PACLEN 0 > > Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't > think it will hurt you > > >> TXDELAY 18 > > Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up? Until you > get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something > conservative like 30 (aka.. 300ms) > > >> UIDIGI ON WIDE1-1 > > Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well? > > --David > KI6ZHD > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- wishing you well Jaye, ke6sls--via the toshiba w/thunderchicken ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies LIKE ME! Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug along on our diginodes. 73 j On 11/26/18 8:50 AM, David Ranch wrote: > > Hello Danny, > > >> I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate >> (EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well >> with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on >> www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the >> same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a >> digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone >> and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3 >> connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a >> digipeater only. > > For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support? WIDE1-1 > only? WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only? > > Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is > beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)? You > can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as: > > #example from > https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html > # > sudo pip install aprslib > python > import aprslib > aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234") > quit () > > > >> ## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)### >> > . . . >> LTP >> 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2 >> 2 APN382 >> 3 APN382 >> 4 APN382 > > These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+ > v9.1 TNC. Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC. > > >> MYCALL EX0CK-1 0 > > Why is there a space in there? You should read the recommended APRS > configuration setup from WB4APR - > http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt . Specifically, you ideally put > a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK" > > > >> MYALIAS WIDE1-1 > > This is wrong. Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE > > >> MYDROP 0 >> MYNODE EX0CK-1 0 > > Why is there a space in here as well? > > >> PACLEN 0 > > Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't > think it will hurt you > > >> TXDELAY 18 > > Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up? Until you > get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something > conservative like 30 (aka.. 300ms) > > >> UIDIGI ON WIDE1-1 > > Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well? > > --David > KI6ZHD > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- wishing you well Jaye, ke6sls--via the toshiba w/thunderchicken ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
Hey Jason,, Hmmm.. that's a good point and I don't know. Here in the USA, you can use whatever as long as your station IDs every 10 minutes with the control operator's real callsign. I have no idea for other countries so they will need to understand their own local laws. --David KI6ZHD On 11/26/2018 09:25 AM, Jason KG4WSV wrote: Are tactical calls legal everywhere? Specifically are they legal in EX-land? ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:50 AM David Ranch wrote: > You should read the recommended APRS > configuration setup from WB4APR - > http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt . Specifically, you ideally put > a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK" Are tactical calls legal everywhere? Specifically are they legal in EX-land? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
Hello Danny, I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate (EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3 connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a digipeater only. For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support? WIDE1-1 only? WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only? Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)? You can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as: #example from https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html # sudo pip install aprslib python import aprslib aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234") quit () ## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)### . . . LTP 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2 2 APN382 3 APN382 4 APN382 These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+ v9.1 TNC. Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC. MYCALL EX0CK-1 0 Why is there a space in there? You should read the recommended APRS configuration setup from WB4APR - http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt . Specifically, you ideally put a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK" MYALIAS WIDE1-1 This is wrong. Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE MYDROP 0 MYNODE EX0CK-1 0 Why is there a space in here as well? PACLEN 0 Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't think it will hurt you TXDELAY 18 Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up? Until you get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something conservative like 30 (aka.. 300ms) UIDIGI ON WIDE1-1 Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well? --David KI6ZHD ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
Hey guys, I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate (EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3 connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a digipeater only. However, EX0CK-1 (iGate connected to Xastir) is not picking up EX0CK-10 (digi) or at least it is "seeing" the packets (when viewed in the "Incoming Data" window) but Xastir (EX0CK-1) is not reporting anything to www.aprs.fi and to Xastir's own map display. I am including EX0CK-1's configuration first and then EX0CK-10's configuration. If anyone can assist we will greatly appreciate it. ## KPC-3 (XASTIR)### 8BITCONV ON AX25L2V2 ON ABAUD 1200 AUTOLF ON AXDELAY 0 AXHANG 0 BEACON EVERY 30 min BKONDEL ON BLT 1 EVERY 00:00:00 2 EVERY 00:00:00 3 EVERY 00:00:00 4 EVERY 00:00:00 BREAK OFF BTEXT ;EX0CK-1*11z84597.42N/62662.74E# BUDLIST CANLINE $18 CANPAC $19 CD SOFTWARE CHECK 0 CMDTIME 1 CMSG DISC COMMAND $03 CONLIST OFF NONE CONMODE CONVERS CONOK ON CONPERM OFF CPACTIME OFF CR ON CRSUP OFF CSTAMP OFF CTEXT APRS Network CWID EVERY 0 CWIDTEXT DE EX0CK DAYTIME D.M.Y H:MM:SS DAYTWEAK 8 DAYSTR D.M.Y H:MM:SS DAMA OFF DAMACHCK 18 DBLDISC OFF DELETE $08 DIGIPEAT ON DWAIT 0 ECHO OFF ESCAPE OFF FLOW OFF FILTER OFF FRACK 4 FULLDUP OFF GPSHEAD 1 $GPGGA 2 3 4 GPSINIT HBAUD 1200 HEADERLN OFF HID OFF HTEXT EX0CK-1 INTFACE TERMINAL KNTIMER 15 min LEDS ON LCOK ON LFADD OFF LFSUP ON LLIST OFF NONE LT 1 >EX0CK-1 QTH 2 3 4 LTP 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2 2 APN382 3 APN382 4 APN382 LTRACK 0 MONITOR ON MALL ON MAXFRAME 4 MAXUSERS 10 MBEACON ON MCON OFF MCOM OFF MHEADER ON MRESP OFF MRPT ON MSTAMP OFF MXMIT ON MYCALL EX0CK-1 MYALIAS EX0CK MYDROP 0 MYNODE EX0CK-1 MYPBBS NOPBBS MYREMOTE DISABL NDWILD OFF NEWMODE OFF NOMODE OFF NTEXT NUCR 0 NULF 0 NUMNODES 0 PACLEN 0 PACTIME AFTER 10 PARITY NONE PASS $16 PASSALL OFF PBBS 480 PBFORWRD NONE EVERY 0 PBHEADER ON PBHOLD ON PBKILLFW OFF PBLIST OFF NONE PBLO NEW VARIABLE PBPERSON OFF PBREVERS ON PERSIST 63 PID OFF PMODE CMD PTEXT EX0CK-1 REDISPLA $12 RELINK OFF RETRY 10 RING ON RNRTIME 0 RTEXT SCREENL 0 SENDPAC $0D SLOTTIME 10 START $11 STOP $13 STREAMSW $7C STREAMCA OFF STREAMEV OFF SUPLIST OFF NONE SWP 17,17,108 TRACE OFF TRFLOW OFF TRIES 10 TXDELAY 18 TXFLOW OFF UNPROTO APN382 UIDIGI ON WIDE1-1,WIDE4-4,WIDE5-5,WIDE6-6 UIDWAIT OFF UIFLOOD WA,30,ID UITRACE WIDE,30 USERS 1 XFLOW OFF XKCHKSUM OFF XKPOLLED OFF XMITOK ON XOFF $13 XON $11 ## ## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)### 8BITCONV ON AX25L2V2 ON ABAUD 1200 AUTOLF ON AXDELAY 0 AXHANG 0 BEACON EVERY 30 min BKONDEL ON BLT 1 EVERY 00:00:00 2 EVERY 00:00:00 3 EVERY 00:00:00 4 EVERY 00:00:00 BREAK OFF BTEXT ;EX0CK-10*11z84597.42N/62662.74E# BUDLIST CANLINE $18 CANPAC $19 CD SOFTWARE CHECK 0 CMDTIME 1 CMSG DISC COMMAND $03 CONLIST OFF NONE CONMODE CONVERS CONOK ON CONPERM OFF CPACTIME OFF CR ON CRSUP OFF CSTAMP OFF CTEXT APRS Network CWID EVERY 0 CWIDTEXT DE EX0CK DAYTIME D.M.Y H:MM:SS DAYTWEAK 8 DAYSTR D.M.Y H:MM:SS DAMA OFF DAMACHCK 18 DBLDISC OFF DELETE $08 DIGIPEAT ON DWAIT 0 ECHO OFF ESCAPE OFF FLOW OFF FILTER OFF FRACK 4 FULLDUP OFF GPSHEAD 1 $GPGGA 2 3 4 GPSINIT HBAUD 1200 HEADERLN OFF HID OFF HTEXT EX0CK-1 0 INTFACE TERMINAL KNTIMER 15 min LEDS ON LCOK ON LFADD OFF LFSUP ON LLIST OFF NONE LT 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > LTP 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2 2 APN382 3 APN382 4 APN382 LTRACK 0 MONITOR ON MALL ON MAXFRAME 4 MAXUSERS 10 MBEACON ON MCON OFF MCOM OFF MHEADER ON MRESP OFF MRPT ON MSTAMP OFF MXMIT ON MYCALL EX0CK-1 0 MYALIAS WIDE1-1 MYDROP 0 MYNODE EX0CK-1 0 MYPBBS NOPBBS MYREMOTE DISABL NDWILD OFF NEWMODE OFF NOMODE OFF NTEXT NUCR 0 NULF 0 NUMNODES 0 PACLEN 0 PACTIME AFTER 10 PARITY NONE PASS $16 PASSALL OFF PBBS 480 PBFORWRD NONE EVERY 0 PBHEADER ON PBHOLD ON PBKILLFW OFF PBLIST OFF NONE PBLO NEW VARIABLE PBPERSON OFF PBREVERS ON PERSIST 63 PID OFF PMODE CMD PTEXT EX0CK-1 0 REDISPLA $12 RELINK OFF RETRY 10 RING ON RNRTIME 0 RTEXT SCREENL 0 SENDPAC $0D SLOTTIME 10 START $11 STOP $13 STREAMSW $7C STREAMCA OFF STREAMEV OFF SUPLIST OFF NONE SWP 17,17,108 TRACE OFF TRFLOW OFF TRIES 10 TXDELAY 18 TXFLOW OFF