Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-28 Thread Lee Bengston
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 12:23 AM MJ Inabnit 
>
> Why hasn't the author replied?  This is VERY important info for newbies
> LIKE ME!
>
> Thanks for the assist.  I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug
> along on our diginodes.
>
> 73
>

In addition to what Curt said...

It's not a given that either of the 2 main authors that monitor this list
owns a Kantronics TNC.

Lee - K5DAT


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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-28 Thread Ken Koster
On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:56:49 AM PST Curt, WE7U wrote:
> I've noticed a lot of people these days only do/recognize top-posting, so
> I'm going against my better nature and top-posting this comment.
> 
> 1) Which "author" are you talking about? We have many developers (16 at last
> count), plus a whole lot of users who answer questions on the mailing list.
> If a non-developer answers a question so much the better! Many users know a
> whole lot more about using the program than some developers do plus it
> frees up developer time for other activities.
> 
> 2) Check the email thread to see if responses have gotten hidden that you
> never read:
> 
> 2a) Many people (including me) by default respond AFTER your text or
> intersperse our answers in-between your questions. Many email packages hide
> those responses underneath a little line that you have to click on to see.
> 
> 2b) If multiple responses came in since you last checked your inbox and
> you're in threaded mode, you probably only see the most recent response.
> You need to dig a little to see all of them.
> 
> Personally I use GMail, tell it NOT to thread, but then do most of my email
> work inside Alpine on Linux: I'm not on the web-based or phone-based email
> except in rare circumstances. I don't miss any responses due to threading
> and no interspersed responses are hidden.
> 
> For more info, see below, plus read other messages that may have been hidden
> from you due to threading.

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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-28 Thread Curt, WE7U



I've noticed a lot of people these days only do/recognize top-posting, so I'm 
going against my better nature and top-posting this comment.

1) Which "author" are you talking about? We have many developers (16 at last 
count), plus a whole lot of users who answer questions on the mailing list. If a 
non-developer answers a question so much the better! Many users know a whole lot more 
about using the program than some developers do plus it frees up developer time for other 
activities.

2) Check the email thread to see if responses have gotten hidden that you never 
read:

2a) Many people (including me) by default respond AFTER your text or 
intersperse our answers in-between your questions. Many email packages hide 
those responses underneath a little line that you have to click on to see.

2b) If multiple responses came in since you last checked your inbox and you're 
in threaded mode, you probably only see the most recent response. You need to 
dig a little to see all of them.

Personally I use GMail, tell it NOT to thread, but then do most of my email 
work inside Alpine on Linux: I'm not on the web-based or phone-based email 
except in rare circumstances. I don't miss any responses due to threading and 
no interspersed responses are hidden.

For more info, see below, plus read other messages that may have been hidden 
from you due to threading.


On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, Steve Rogers wrote:


Believe David Ranch answered your message and broke down your errors on kpc3+
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From: Xastir  on behalf of MJ Inabnit 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:23 AM
To: xastir@lists.xastir.org
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help



Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies
LIKE ME!

Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug
along on our diginodes.

73
j

On 11/26/18 8:50 AM, David Ranch wrote:


Hello Danny,



I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate
(EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well
with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on
www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the
same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a
digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone
and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3
connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a
digipeater only.


For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support?  WIDE1-1
only?  WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only?

Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is
beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)?  You
can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as:

   #example from
https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html
   #
   sudo pip install aprslib
   python
   import aprslib
   aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234")
   quit ()




## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)###


. . .

LTP
1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2
2 APN382
3 APN382
4 APN382


These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+
v9.1 TNC.  Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC.



MYCALL   EX0CK-1 0


Why is there a space in there?   You should read the recommended APRS
configuration setup from WB4APR -
http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt .  Specifically, you ideally put
a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK"




MYALIAS  WIDE1-1


This is wrong.  Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE



MYDROP   0
MYNODE   EX0CK-1 0


Why is there a space in here as well?



PACLEN   0


Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't
think it will hurt you



TXDELAY  18


Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up?  Until you
get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something
conservative like 30  (aka.. 300ms)



UIDIGI   ON WIDE1-1


Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well?

--David
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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-28 Thread David Ranch



Danny emailed me off-list with a few follow up questions and I think 
he's closer now but still not 100%.


--David
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Why hasn't the author replied?  This is VERY important info for newbies
LIKE ME!

Thanks for the assist.  I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug
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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-28 Thread Steve Rogers
Believe David Ranch answered your message and broke down your errors on kpc3+
Kd5mkv

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From: Xastir  on behalf of MJ Inabnit 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:23 AM
To: xastir@lists.xastir.org
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help



Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies
LIKE ME!

Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug
along on our diginodes.

73
j

On 11/26/18 8:50 AM, David Ranch wrote:
>
> Hello Danny,
>
>
>> I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate
>> (EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well
>> with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on
>> www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the
>> same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a
>> digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone
>> and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3
>> connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a
>> digipeater only.
>
> For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support?  WIDE1-1
> only?  WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only?
>
> Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is
> beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)?  You
> can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as:
>
>#example from
> https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html
>#
>sudo pip install aprslib
>python
>import aprslib
>aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234")
>quit ()
>
>
>
>> ## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)###
>>
> . . .
>> LTP
>> 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2
>> 2 APN382
>> 3 APN382
>> 4 APN382
>
> These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+
> v9.1 TNC.  Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC.
>
>
>> MYCALL   EX0CK-1 0
>
> Why is there a space in there?   You should read the recommended APRS
> configuration setup from WB4APR -
> http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt .  Specifically, you ideally put
> a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK"
>
>
>
>> MYALIAS  WIDE1-1
>
> This is wrong.  Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE
>
>
>> MYDROP   0
>> MYNODE   EX0CK-1 0
>
> Why is there a space in here as well?
>
>
>> PACLEN   0
>
> Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't
> think it will hurt you
>
>
>> TXDELAY  18
>
> Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up?  Until you
> get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something
> conservative like 30  (aka.. 300ms)
>
>
>> UIDIGI   ON WIDE1-1
>
> Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well?
>
> --David
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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-27 Thread MJ Inabnit


Why hasn't the author replied?  This is VERY important info for newbies
LIKE ME!

Thanks for the assist.  I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug
along on our diginodes.

73
j

On 11/26/18 8:50 AM, David Ranch wrote:
> 
> Hello Danny,
> 
> 
>> I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate
>> (EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well
>> with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on
>> www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the
>> same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a
>> digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone
>> and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3
>> connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a
>> digipeater only.
> 
> For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support?  WIDE1-1
> only?  WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only?
> 
> Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is
> beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)?  You
> can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as:
> 
>    #example from
> https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html
>    #
>    sudo pip install aprslib
>    python
>    import aprslib
>    aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234")
>    quit ()
> 
> 
> 
>> ## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)###
>>
> . . .
>> LTP
>> 1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2
>> 2 APN382
>> 3 APN382
>> 4 APN382
> 
> These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+
> v9.1 TNC.  Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC.
> 
> 
>> MYCALL   EX0CK-1 0
> 
> Why is there a space in there?   You should read the recommended APRS
> configuration setup from WB4APR -
> http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt .  Specifically, you ideally put
> a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK"
> 
> 
> 
>> MYALIAS  WIDE1-1
> 
> This is wrong.  Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE
> 
> 
>> MYDROP   0
>> MYNODE   EX0CK-1 0
> 
> Why is there a space in here as well?
> 
> 
>> PACLEN   0
> 
> Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't
> think it will hurt you
> 
> 
>> TXDELAY  18
> 
> Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up?  Until you
> get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something
> conservative like 30  (aka.. 300ms)
> 
> 
>> UIDIGI   ON WIDE1-1
> 
> Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well?
> 
> --David
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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-26 Thread David Ranch



Hey Jason,,

Hmmm.. that's a good point and I don't know.  Here in the USA, you can 
use whatever as long as your station IDs every 10 minutes with the 
control operator's real callsign.  I have no idea for other countries so 
they will need to understand their own local laws.


--David
KI6ZHD



On 11/26/2018 09:25 AM, Jason KG4WSV wrote:

Are tactical calls legal everywhere?  Specifically are they legal in
EX-land?


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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-26 Thread Jason KG4WSV
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:50 AM David Ranch  wrote:


> You should read the recommended APRS
> configuration setup from WB4APR -
> http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt .  Specifically, you ideally put
> a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK"




Are tactical calls legal everywhere?  Specifically are they legal in
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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-26 Thread David Ranch



Hello Danny,


I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate 
(EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well 
with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on 
www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the 
same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a 
digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone 
and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3 
connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a 
digipeater only.


For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support?  WIDE1-1 
only?  WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only?


Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is 
beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)?  You 
can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as:


   #example from 
https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html

   #
   sudo pip install aprslib
   python
   import aprslib
   aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234")
   quit ()




## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)###


. . .

LTP
1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2
2 APN382
3 APN382
4 APN382


These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+ 
v9.1 TNC.  Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC.




MYCALL   EX0CK-1 0


Why is there a space in there?   You should read the recommended APRS 
configuration setup from WB4APR - 
http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt .  Specifically, you ideally put 
a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK"





MYALIAS  WIDE1-1


This is wrong.  Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE



MYDROP   0
MYNODE   EX0CK-1 0


Why is there a space in here as well?



PACLEN   0


Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't 
think it will hurt you




TXDELAY  18


Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up?  Until you 
get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something 
conservative like 30  (aka.. 300ms)




UIDIGI   ON WIDE1-1


Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well?

--David
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[Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

2018-11-26 Thread Danny ZS6XOX

Hey guys,


I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate 
(EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well 
with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on www.aprs.fi. 
However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the same area 
(EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a digipeater for a 
project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone and is not 
interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3 connected to 
Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a digipeater only.



However, EX0CK-1 (iGate connected to Xastir) is not picking up EX0CK-10 
(digi) or at least it is "seeing" the packets (when viewed in the 
"Incoming Data" window) but Xastir (EX0CK-1) is not reporting anything 
to www.aprs.fi and to Xastir's own map display.



I am including EX0CK-1's configuration first and then EX0CK-10's 
configuration. If anyone can assist we will greatly appreciate it.


## KPC-3 (XASTIR)###

8BITCONV ON
AX25L2V2 ON
ABAUD    1200
AUTOLF   ON
AXDELAY  0
AXHANG   0
BEACON   EVERY 30 min
BKONDEL  ON
BLT
1 EVERY 00:00:00
2 EVERY 00:00:00
3 EVERY 00:00:00
4 EVERY 00:00:00
BREAK    OFF
BTEXT    ;EX0CK-1*11z84597.42N/62662.74E#
BUDLIST
CANLINE  $18
CANPAC   $19
CD   SOFTWARE
CHECK    0
CMDTIME  1
CMSG DISC
COMMAND  $03
CONLIST  OFF NONE
CONMODE  CONVERS
CONOK    ON
CONPERM  OFF
CPACTIME OFF
CR   ON
CRSUP    OFF
CSTAMP   OFF
CTEXT    APRS Network
CWID EVERY 0
CWIDTEXT DE EX0CK
DAYTIME  D.M.Y H:MM:SS
DAYTWEAK 8
DAYSTR   D.M.Y H:MM:SS
DAMA OFF
DAMACHCK 18
DBLDISC  OFF
DELETE   $08
DIGIPEAT ON
DWAIT    0
ECHO OFF
ESCAPE   OFF
FLOW OFF
FILTER   OFF
FRACK    4
FULLDUP  OFF
GPSHEAD
1 $GPGGA
2
3
4
GPSINIT
HBAUD    1200
HEADERLN OFF
HID  OFF
HTEXT    EX0CK-1
INTFACE  TERMINAL
KNTIMER  15 min
LEDS ON
LCOK ON
LFADD    OFF
LFSUP    ON
LLIST    OFF NONE
LT
1 >EX0CK-1 QTH
2
3
4
LTP
1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2
2 APN382
3 APN382
4 APN382
LTRACK   0

MONITOR  ON
MALL ON
MAXFRAME 4
MAXUSERS 10
MBEACON  ON
MCON OFF
MCOM OFF
MHEADER  ON
MRESP    OFF
MRPT ON
MSTAMP   OFF
MXMIT    ON
MYCALL   EX0CK-1
MYALIAS  EX0CK
MYDROP   0
MYNODE   EX0CK-1
MYPBBS   NOPBBS
MYREMOTE DISABL
NDWILD   OFF
NEWMODE  OFF
NOMODE   OFF
NTEXT
NUCR 0
NULF 0
NUMNODES 0
PACLEN   0
PACTIME  AFTER 10
PARITY   NONE
PASS $16
PASSALL  OFF
PBBS 480
PBFORWRD NONE  EVERY 0
PBHEADER ON
PBHOLD   ON
PBKILLFW OFF
PBLIST   OFF NONE
PBLO NEW VARIABLE
PBPERSON OFF
PBREVERS ON
PERSIST  63
PID  OFF
PMODE    CMD
PTEXT    EX0CK-1
REDISPLA $12
RELINK   OFF
RETRY    10
RING ON
RNRTIME  0
RTEXT
SCREENL  0
SENDPAC  $0D
SLOTTIME 10
START    $11
STOP $13
STREAMSW $7C
STREAMCA OFF
STREAMEV OFF
SUPLIST  OFF NONE
SWP  17,17,108
TRACE    OFF
TRFLOW   OFF
TRIES    10
TXDELAY  18
TXFLOW   OFF
UNPROTO  APN382
UIDIGI   ON WIDE1-1,WIDE4-4,WIDE5-5,WIDE6-6
UIDWAIT  OFF
UIFLOOD  WA,30,ID
UITRACE  WIDE,30
USERS    1
XFLOW    OFF
XKCHKSUM OFF
XKPOLLED OFF
XMITOK   ON
XOFF $13
XON  $11
##


## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)###

8BITCONV ON
AX25L2V2 ON
ABAUD    1200
AUTOLF   ON
AXDELAY  0
AXHANG   0
BEACON   EVERY 30 min
BKONDEL  ON
BLT
1 EVERY 00:00:00
2 EVERY 00:00:00
3 EVERY 00:00:00
4 EVERY 00:00:00
BREAK    OFF
BTEXT    ;EX0CK-10*11z84597.42N/62662.74E#
BUDLIST
CANLINE  $18
CANPAC   $19
CD   SOFTWARE
CHECK    0
CMDTIME  1
CMSG DISC
COMMAND  $03
CONLIST  OFF NONE
CONMODE  CONVERS
CONOK    ON
CONPERM  OFF
CPACTIME OFF
CR   ON
CRSUP    OFF
CSTAMP   OFF
CTEXT    APRS Network
CWID EVERY 0
CWIDTEXT DE EX0CK
DAYTIME  D.M.Y H:MM:SS
DAYTWEAK 8
DAYSTR   D.M.Y H:MM:SS
DAMA OFF
DAMACHCK 18
DBLDISC  OFF
DELETE   $08
DIGIPEAT ON
DWAIT    0
ECHO OFF
ESCAPE   OFF
FLOW OFF
FILTER   OFF
FRACK    4
FULLDUP  OFF
GPSHEAD
1 $GPGGA
2
3
4
GPSINIT
HBAUD    1200
HEADERLN OFF
HID  OFF
HTEXT    EX0CK-1 0
INTFACE  TERMINAL
KNTIMER  15 min
LEDS ON
LCOK ON
LFADD    OFF
LFSUP    ON
LLIST    OFF NONE
LT
1 >
2 >
3 >
4 >
LTP
1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2
2 APN382
3 APN382
4 APN382
LTRACK   0

MONITOR  ON
MALL ON
MAXFRAME 4
MAXUSERS 10
MBEACON  ON
MCON OFF
MCOM OFF
MHEADER  ON
MRESP    OFF
MRPT ON
MSTAMP   OFF
MXMIT    ON
MYCALL   EX0CK-1 0
MYALIAS  WIDE1-1
MYDROP   0
MYNODE   EX0CK-1 0
MYPBBS   NOPBBS
MYREMOTE DISABL
NDWILD   OFF
NEWMODE  OFF
NOMODE   OFF
NTEXT
NUCR 0
NULF 0
NUMNODES 0
PACLEN   0
PACTIME  AFTER 10
PARITY   NONE
PASS $16
PASSALL  OFF
PBBS 480
PBFORWRD NONE  EVERY 0
PBHEADER ON
PBHOLD   ON
PBKILLFW OFF
PBLIST   OFF NONE
PBLO NEW VARIABLE
PBPERSON OFF
PBREVERS ON
PERSIST  63
PID  OFF
PMODE    CMD
PTEXT    EX0CK-1 0
REDISPLA $12
RELINK   OFF
RETRY    10
RING ON
RNRTIME  0
RTEXT
SCREENL  0
SENDPAC  $0D
SLOTTIME 10
START    $11
STOP $13
STREAMSW $7C
STREAMCA OFF
STREAMEV OFF
SUPLIST  OFF NONE
SWP  17,17,108
TRACE    OFF
TRFLOW   OFF
TRIES    10
TXDELAY  18
TXFLOW   OFF