Re: [Xastir] OpenStreetMaps Update
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Jerry Dunmire wrote: I am actually thinking about how to select the other map styles. I'm not quite sure how yet, but probably by different key words in the .osm/.geo file. A separate file (by no new extensions!) would used for each style. That way no new selection process/GUI would need to be added. However this feature is still a thought experiment... Similar to how the MS Terraserver selections are done now. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] OpenStreetMaps Update
Yup, that should do the job. Thanks, ...jerry On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Jerry Dunmire wrote: I am actually thinking about how to select the other map styles. I'm not quite sure how yet, but probably by different key words in the .osm/.geo file. A separate file (by no new extensions!) would used for each style. That way no new selection process/GUI would need to be added. However this feature is still a thought experiment... Similar to how the MS Terraserver selections are done now. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at! http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] OpenStreetMaps Update
On Fri, June 11, 2010 14:03, Jerry Dunmire wrote: I hadn't noticed the extension collision. I was looking only at the Xastir use. Do you have any suggestions for a more appropriate extension? Not really. I don't really know what you would classify the contents of the file as. The .geo files are genuine .geo files, and other files which contain data in a well-known format should use the well-known extension. Since this is a Unix-like system there's no need for extensions anyway, or you could use the catch-all .dat. Either way, I encourage you to drop the 's' as OSM itself is not plural. (Pedantic programmer is pedantic). Since these are still early days, have you considered how to get the other rendered tiles (assuming they are available)? For example (for those who've never played with OSM) you can click on a plus symbol (+) at the upper right hand side of the map at the OSM site (www.osm.org) and switch to different rendered views of the data. The default at OSM is Mapnik. The tiles we are viewing in Xastir seem to be Osmarender. The third one you can see is CycleMap, which includes (approximate) topo lines. If we have generic WMS support we should be able to specify any WMS server and it should Just Work. 73, A ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] OpenStreetMaps Update
Hi Andrew, Thanks for the suggestions. I'll think about changing the file name, but I don't want to do that too many times because of the disruption it causes. As for the file extensions, all I can say at this point is that xastir uses the file extension as part of it's internal logic. This isn't a OS level choice, but part of the core logic of this particular application. The clearest way to make the decision to about when scaling should be binned or linear was by creating another 'file type' (as defined by file extension). Any other way would have caused me to add new code to parse file contents at places were the file contents are not presently available. I'm sure this is part of why I'm being encouraged to change to the linear scaling as soon as possible. If the linear scaling works acceptably then OpenStreetMap.geo (no 's' - I'm trying :-) ) will come back as the way to select the linear scaling for OSM. At that point the .osm extension could be dropped if the binned scaling is no longer desirable. I would like to hold off that decision until I see the linear scaling in-action on OSM bitmaps. I am actually thinking about how to select the other map styles. I'm not quite sure how yet, but probably by different key words in the .osm/.geo file. A separate file (by no new extensions!) would used for each style. That way no new selection process/GUI would need to be added. However this feature is still a thought experiment... 73, ...jerry On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, June 11, 2010 14:03, Jerry Dunmire wrote: I hadn't noticed the extension collision. I was looking only at the Xastir use. Do you have any suggestions for a more appropriate extension? Not really. I don't really know what you would classify the contents of the file as. The .geo files are genuine .geo files, and other files which contain data in a well-known format should use the well-known extension. Since this is a Unix-like system there's no need for extensions anyway, or you could use the catch-all .dat. Either way, I encourage you to drop the 's' as OSM itself is not plural. (Pedantic programmer is pedantic). Since these are still early days, have you considered how to get the other rendered tiles (assuming they are available)? For example (for those who've never played with OSM) you can click on a plus symbol (+) at the upper right hand side of the map at the OSM site (www.osm.org) and switch to different rendered views of the data. The default at OSM is Mapnik. The tiles we are viewing in Xastir seem to be Osmarender. The third one you can see is CycleMap, which includes (approximate) topo lines. If we have generic WMS support we should be able to specify any WMS server and it should Just Work. 73, A ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] OpenStreetMaps Update
Curt has committed a new set of patches from me to CVS that should fix some of OSM problems that have been reported. The new code processes the scaling/level change when the OSM maps are selected, deselected, and at startup. The scaling is still binned. Note, if you are running a previous version of Xastir with OSM support you will need to delete the OpenStreetMap.geo file. It is typically installed in /usr/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/. You should also deselect the OpenStreetMap.geo in the Map Chooser dialog. The new map file is named OpenStreetMap.osm. Select it to enable OSM maps. Known issues: * The big one is that scaling is not continuous. I will be working on this problem next. * The map region displayed after an area-zoom may be smaller that the area selected with the mouse. I think this problem will go away with continuous scaling, so I'm delaying any further investigation until the continuous scaling is working. * OSM support should use tiles rather than OSM StaticMaps. I agree and I'm planning on this for a future release. Let me know about other problems you observe with the OSM support. Reports that include instructions on how to reproduce the problem are particularly helpful. Thank you Curt, Tom, and the other great Xastir developers for your suggestions and assistance! 73, ...jerry KA6HLD ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] OpenStreetMaps Update
On Fri, June 11, 2010 12:23, Jerry Dunmire wrote: snip The new map file is named OpenStreetMap.osm. Select it to enable OSM maps. May I respectfully point out that .osm is the extension given to the native OSM data files used by JOSM (the Java OSM editor) and other exported OSM files. I would also like to add that OpenStreetMap.something is better than OpenStreetMaps.something (i.e. you've dropped the 's'). Thank you. 73, Andrew ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] OpenStreetMaps Update
My announcement was incorrect. The new file name has an 's' in it. The new map file name is: OpenStreetMaps.osm Sorry for any confusion I caused. ...jerry On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, June 11, 2010 12:23, Jerry Dunmire wrote: snip The new map file is named OpenStreetMap.osm. Select it to enable OSM maps. May I respectfully point out that .osm is the extension given to the native OSM data files used by JOSM (the Java OSM editor) and other exported OSM files. I would also like to add that OpenStreetMap.something is better than OpenStreetMaps.something (i.e. you've dropped the 's'). Thank you. 73, Andrew ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
