Re: [Xastir] Proposed removal of kernel AX.25 support

2019-07-27 Thread David Ranch



I replied to that thread over on the Debian-hams list and I encourage 
others active Linux packet users to chime in as well.  I agree that AGW 
or KISS support within Xastir is fine for most Xastir needs but there 
are MANY other applications out there that depend on all their I/O to go 
through libax25.  If we loose that transport, many many packet programs 
( https://radio.linux.org.au/?sectpat=packet=title ) and really 
powerful routing capabilities will no longer function.


--David
KI6ZHD


On 07/27/2019 07:07 AM, Lee D Bengston wrote:

Not long ago I finally made the switch to DireWolf from an old Kantronics
TNC.  With AGW and KISS over TCP interfaces, TNC sharing among applications
is easier then ever with no dependency on Linux AX25 networking.

Lee K5DAT


On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:13 PM David A Aitcheson 
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On 7/26/19 2:10 PM, Iain Learmonth wrote:

Hi,

I am a maintainer for the libax25 and ax25-apps packages, and these
packages are not in great shape. These are userspace packages that
compliment the AX.25 networking support in the Linux kernel. I would
like to propose that we do not ship these packages, or otherwise use the
kernel AX.25 support, in the next Debian release.

Support for the AX.25 stack is currently not present on arm64 (#920651).
I am not sure if this is due to it being broken there or it simply
wasn't enabled. Regardless, it has been broken recently in ways that
seriously affect its usability. There are just not enough people looking
at it or taking care of it.

The userspace packages also have long standing bugs (#605946) that have
not been fixed by the upstream. In the last 2 releases of Debian we have
shipped release candidate packages as no release has been made.

The following packages would be affected and I propose would be removed:

libax25-dev
ax25mail-utils
ax25-tools
ax25-apps

The following packages would be affected and I propose should be built
without support for kernel AX.25:

xastir (checked, it's fine)
uronode (checked, it's fine)
aprsdigi (did not check if possible yet)
fbb (did not check if possible yet)

This is a change to something that's been around for a while, and it
affects more than just my packages, so I'm bringing this to the mailing
list for discussion. I have pretty much made up my mind that this is the
right thing to do but I will listen to compelling counter-arguments.

Thanks,
Iain.


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Re: [Xastir] Proposed removal of kernel AX.25 support

2019-07-26 Thread David A Aitcheson
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On 7/26/19 2:10 PM, Iain Learmonth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a maintainer for the libax25 and ax25-apps packages, and these
> packages are not in great shape. These are userspace packages that
> compliment the AX.25 networking support in the Linux kernel. I would
> like to propose that we do not ship these packages, or otherwise use the
> kernel AX.25 support, in the next Debian release.
>
> Support for the AX.25 stack is currently not present on arm64 (#920651).
> I am not sure if this is due to it being broken there or it simply
> wasn't enabled. Regardless, it has been broken recently in ways that
> seriously affect its usability. There are just not enough people looking
> at it or taking care of it.
>
> The userspace packages also have long standing bugs (#605946) that have
> not been fixed by the upstream. In the last 2 releases of Debian we have
> shipped release candidate packages as no release has been made.
>
> The following packages would be affected and I propose would be removed:
>
> libax25-dev
> ax25mail-utils
> ax25-tools
> ax25-apps
>
> The following packages would be affected and I propose should be built
> without support for kernel AX.25:
>
> xastir (checked, it's fine)
> uronode (checked, it's fine)
> aprsdigi (did not check if possible yet)
> fbb (did not check if possible yet)
>
> This is a change to something that's been around for a while, and it
> affects more than just my packages, so I'm bringing this to the mailing
> list for discussion. I have pretty much made up my mind that this is the
> right thing to do but I will listen to compelling counter-arguments.
>
> Thanks,
> Iain.
>

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