Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
I think I still have all 11 5-1/4 in floppies holding my first attempt to install Linux. On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:15 PM Ken Koster wrote: > On Friday, September 21, 2018 2:13:37 PM PDT Tom Russo wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:11:37PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron > collision of the flavor, containing: > > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: > > > > Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just > Perl". > > > > I'll > > > > see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be > straightforward > > > > at > > > > home. > > > > > > There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and > can > > > help... > > > > > > Perl: The first write-only language? > > > > Hah, as if. You must never have written a program in APL. And you > should > > have been there in the days of TECO (TECO macros didn't look like > programs, > > they looked like line noise). > > Some of us were and the infamous TECO VT100 macro comes to mind. > > And then there was the TECO macro I did that allowed other lab denizens to > select > from a menu and program proms on the serially connected Data I/O > programmer. > > Topped off by the control menu that purported to restrict access to > various games > on the system so management had the illusion that engineers couldn't play > during > business ours. > > Those were the days...I think I even have a copy for Linux somewhere > around here. > If I distract myself enough I think I can resist installing it again. > > -- > Ken - N7IPB > Email: n7...@wetnet.net > JID: n7...@jabber.wetnet.net > SvxLink Repeaters: http://pnw220.wetnet.net > PGP Sig: F42B EF90 3CD3 31C7 3056 122E 993A 7B2E 5138 C42A > “Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it might be; > and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.” > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Gerry Creager NSSL/CIMMS 405.325.6371 ++ “Big whorls have little whorls, That feed on their velocity; And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity.” Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
I've tried making coaxial collinears before, both with and without a wooden jig. If your OM's been successful, my hat's off to him. Getting the elements correct is a PAIN. 12 elements should be sensitive; should also be around 8-10 dB gain vice a quarter-wave ground plane! gerry N5JXS On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:07 AM Liz wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:41:26 -0700 (PDT) > "Curt, WE7U" wrote: > > > The Wiki page about viewing real-time positions of aircraft and ships > > has been revamped. There should be enough detail to easily replicate > > what Ken (n7ipb) and I have been doing for a while, including > > screenshots of the equipment required, snapshots of the Xastir > > displays, and a script to make it easy to start everything up. > > > >http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships > > > > Enjoy. > > > > Antenna?? > I mention this because my OM has made a series of coaxial collinear > antennae for ADS-B. At least three, inside conduit, have broken apart > =in high winds, so the latest is made up inside a fibreglass surf > fishing rod. This has 12 lengths of coax and is very sensitive. > > Liz > VK2XSE > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Gerry Creager NSSL/CIMMS 405.325.6371 ++ “Big whorls have little whorls, That feed on their velocity; And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity.” Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Friday, September 21, 2018 2:13:37 PM PDT Tom Russo wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:11:37PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the flavor, containing: > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: > > > Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". > > > I'll > > > see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward > > > at > > > home. > > > > There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can > > help... > > > > Perl: The first write-only language? > > Hah, as if. You must never have written a program in APL. And you should > have been there in the days of TECO (TECO macros didn't look like programs, > they looked like line noise). Some of us were and the infamous TECO VT100 macro comes to mind. And then there was the TECO macro I did that allowed other lab denizens to select from a menu and program proms on the serially connected Data I/O programmer. Topped off by the control menu that purported to restrict access to various games on the system so management had the illusion that engineers couldn't play during business ours. Those were the days...I think I even have a copy for Linux somewhere around here. If I distract myself enough I think I can resist installing it again. -- Ken - N7IPB Email: n7...@wetnet.net JID: n7...@jabber.wetnet.net SvxLink Repeaters: http://pnw220.wetnet.net PGP Sig: F42B EF90 3CD3 31C7 3056 122E 993A 7B2E 5138 C42A “Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.” signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:41:26 -0700 (PDT) "Curt, WE7U" wrote: > The Wiki page about viewing real-time positions of aircraft and ships > has been revamped. There should be enough detail to easily replicate > what Ken (n7ipb) and I have been doing for a while, including > screenshots of the equipment required, snapshots of the Xastir > displays, and a script to make it easy to start everything up. > >http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships > > Enjoy. > Antenna?? I mention this because my OM has made a series of coaxial collinear antennae for ADS-B. At least three, inside conduit, have broken apart =in high winds, so the latest is made up inside a fibreglass surf fishing rod. This has 12 lengths of coax and is very sensitive. Liz VK2XSE ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 07:23:26PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the flavor, containing: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Tom Russo wrote: > > > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think > > "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. > > That's really funny! I think I'll use that. I prolly should have attributed it to Jamie Zawinski, but his actual regex quote is in fact derived from a much older quote about AWK, which itself was probably derived from something older... http://regex.info/blog/2006-09-15/247 -- Tom RussoKM5VY Tijeras, NM echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m] ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Tom Russo wrote: Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. That's really funny! I think I'll use that. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 04:27:00PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the flavor, containing: > I had a research project once that looked at hundreds of geodetic surveying > app outputs, snagged them, parsed them and then I subjected the flat files > to Excel for light-weight statistical analysis. I think I spent more time > getting the regexes correct , by a factor of easily 24, than on generating > the data once the raw surveying data were collected and uploaded. I must > have "fixed" regexes on an hourly basis before rerunning the job. From > start to failure. Again. Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:11 PM Curt, WE7U wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: > > > > > Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". > > I'll > > > see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward > > at > > > home. > > > > There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can > > help... > > > > Perl: The first write-only language? > > > > -- > > Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net > > "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of > > knowledge." -Stephen Hawking > > Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com > > ___ > > Xastir mailing list > > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > > > > > -- > Gerry Creager > NSSL/CIMMS > 405.325.6371 > ++ > ???Big whorls have little whorls, > That feed on their velocity; > And little whorls have lesser whorls, > And so on to viscosity.??? > Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953) > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Tom RussoKM5VY Tijeras, NM echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m] ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
Thus the reason (or probably one of them) that sendmail.cf also looks/looked like line noise -Original Message- From: Xastir [mailto:xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org] On Behalf Of Tom Russo Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 14:14 TECO (TECO macros didn't look like programs, they looked like line noise). ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
If I recall the quote correctly, Three things in life a man must do, before his days are done. Write 2 lines of APL. And make the sucker run. (Apologies to The Devil's DP Dictionary) On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:13 PM Tom Russo wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:11:37PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron > collision of the flavor, containing: > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: > > > > > Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". > I'll > > > see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be > straightforward at > > > home. > > > > There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can > help... > > > > Perl: The first write-only language? > > Hah, as if. You must never have written a program in APL. And you should > have been there in the days of TECO (TECO macros didn't look like programs, > they looked like line noise). > > -- > Tom RussoKM5VY > Tijeras, NM > > echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] > [n-z][a-m] > > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Gerry Creager NSSL/CIMMS 405.325.6371 ++ “Big whorls have little whorls, That feed on their velocity; And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity.” Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
I had a research project once that looked at hundreds of geodetic surveying app outputs, snagged them, parsed them and then I subjected the flat files to Excel for light-weight statistical analysis. I think I spent more time getting the regexes correct , by a factor of easily 24, than on generating the data once the raw surveying data were collected and uploaded. I must have "fixed" regexes on an hourly basis before rerunning the job. From start to failure. Again. gc On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:11 PM Curt, WE7U wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: > > > Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". > I'll > > see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward > at > > home. > > There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can > help... > > Perl: The first write-only language? > > -- > Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net > "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of > knowledge." -Stephen Hawking > Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Gerry Creager NSSL/CIMMS 405.325.6371 ++ “Big whorls have little whorls, That feed on their velocity; And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity.” Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:11:37PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the flavor, containing: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: > > > Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". I'll > > see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward at > > home. > > There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can > help... > > Perl: The first write-only language? Hah, as if. You must never have written a program in APL. And you should have been there in the days of TECO (TECO macros didn't look like programs, they looked like line noise). -- Tom RussoKM5VY Tijeras, NM echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m] ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". I'll see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward at home. There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can help... Perl: The first write-only language? -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". I'll see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward at home. gerry N5JXS On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 2:27 PM Curt, WE7U wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: > > > I've gotta carve out a few more minutes for Xastir. You guys are having > too > > much fun. Hmmm. I can hack the code to just track CAP aircraft, can't I? > > Yea, I don't know why not... It's just Perl. Should be super-simple to do > with a regex. > > -- > Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net > APRS Usage Pages: http://we7u.wetnet.net/usage.html > Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Gerry Creager NSSL/CIMMS 405.325.6371 ++ “Big whorls have little whorls, That feed on their velocity; And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity.” Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: I've gotta carve out a few more minutes for Xastir. You guys are having too much fun. Hmmm. I can hack the code to just track CAP aircraft, can't I? Yea, I don't know why not... It's just Perl. Should be super-simple to do with a regex. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Usage Pages: http://we7u.wetnet.net/usage.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
I've gotta carve out a few more minutes for Xastir. You guys are having too much fun. Hmmm. I can hack the code to just track CAP aircraft, can't I? Gerry On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:41 AM Curt, WE7U wrote: > > The Wiki page about viewing real-time positions of aircraft and ships has > been revamped. There should be enough detail to easily replicate what Ken > (n7ipb) and I have been doing for a while, including screenshots of the > equipment required, snapshots of the Xastir displays, and a script to make > it easy to start everything up. > >http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships > > Enjoy. > > -- > Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net > Babysitting your tracker: > http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator > Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Gerry Creager NSSL/CIMMS 405.325.6371 ++ “Big whorls have little whorls, That feed on their velocity; And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity.” Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
The Wiki page about viewing real-time positions of aircraft and ships has been revamped. There should be enough detail to easily replicate what Ken (n7ipb) and I have been doing for a while, including screenshots of the equipment required, snapshots of the Xastir displays, and a script to make it easy to start everything up. http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships Enjoy. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
