Re: [Xastir] kiss off command to restore your tnc back to command mode

2018-10-19 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 08:15:11AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the  flavor, containing:
> Hello Jaye,
> 
> Have you read:
> 
> https://xastir.org/index.php/Serial_KISS_TNC
> 
> and
> 
> http://xastir.org/index.php/XASTIR_Manual#TNC_interface
> 
> 
> Per the first URL, it seems like doing a KISS off within Xastir might 
> not be (natively) available.  I also see conflicting details say in the 
> various shutdown scripts in /usr/share/xastir/config/ or 
> /usr/local/share/xastir/config file using the META command but it's not 
> clear if it can work.  You do have a few options:
> 
> 1. You *don't* have to run the TNC in KISS mode if you don't want to 
> so the TNC is always in COMMAND mode.

This is the approach I would take.  The KPC-3+ has Issues in KISS mode that
are related to how it does flow control, and unless you are careful to work
around those it's a poor choice as a KISS TNC.  But it works fine in command
mode, and there are already appropriate startup scripts for using it that
way in the config directory.

> 2. If you still want to run your TNC in KISS mode when Xastir is 
> running, you need to send the KISS exit command which is intentionally 
> complicated but it's essentially sending the ASCII string (without the 
> commas):
> 
> 192,255,192
> 
>   I have examples of how to do this here:
> 
>   KPC3 Perl script: 
> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/local/bin/
> 
>   D710 binary: 
> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/local/sbin/
>   sources: 
> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/misc/D710/tmd710_tncsetup.c

There is also a script in the Xastir scripts collection called "kiss-off.pl"
that will send the appropriate string to the TNC to take it out of KISS mode.
It's been there since 2004.

You just run it and redirect its standard out to the device.  An example
of running it is in its comments.

> If it's not possible to sent that KISS off string via the Xastir 
> shutdown script, consider starting Xastir with a wrapping script. In 
> that script, just do:
> 
> start xasitr
> when xastir exits, run a modified shutdown tool from above that's 
> modified for your needs
> exit


> On 10/18/2018 09:26 PM, MJ Inabnit wrote:
> > Learned a lot over the last two evenings.  First, I am adding this
> > attachment so other newbies might find far less pain getting their
> > Kantronics TNC's back into command mode following a kiss session WITHOUT
> > HARD RESET!  I hope I added enough help for folks to understand how to
> > use it.
> >
> > However, I need help.
> >
> > I would like to use xastir to add a new SERIAL TNC and not a kiss tnc.
> > I can modify the start up file and exit file.  What I need help with is
> > HOW to get the kiss off command into that text file so xastir will leave
> > my tnc back in command mode.
> >
> > xastir default files in debian/ubuntu/mint are:
> > tnc-start.sys and tnc-stop.sys in /usr/share/xastir/config/
> >
> > Is there anyone with working files that would be willing to share this
> > secret?
> >
> > Thank you, 73
> > j
> 
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Re: [Xastir] kiss off command to restore your tnc back to command mode

2018-10-19 Thread David Ranch

Hello Jaye,

Have you read:

   https://xastir.org/index.php/Serial_KISS_TNC

   and

   http://xastir.org/index.php/XASTIR_Manual#TNC_interface


Per the first URL, it seems like doing a KISS off within Xastir might 
not be (natively) available.  I also see conflicting details say in the 
various shutdown scripts in /usr/share/xastir/config/ or 
/usr/local/share/xastir/config file using the META command but it's not 
clear if it can work.  You do have a few options:


   1. You *don't* have to run the TNC in KISS mode if you don't want to 
so the TNC is always in COMMAND mode.


   2. If you still want to run your TNC in KISS mode when Xastir is 
running, you need to send the KISS exit command which is intentionally 
complicated but it's essentially sending the ASCII string (without the 
commas):


   192,255,192

 I have examples of how to do this here:

 KPC3 Perl script: 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/local/bin/


 D710 binary: 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/local/sbin/
 sources: 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/misc/D710/tmd710_tncsetup.c



If it's not possible to sent that KISS off string via the Xastir 
shutdown script, consider starting Xastir with a wrapping script. In 
that script, just do:


   start xasitr
   when xastir exits, run a modified shutdown tool from above that's 
modified for your needs

   exit

--David
KI6ZHD


On 10/18/2018 09:26 PM, MJ Inabnit wrote:

Learned a lot over the last two evenings.  First, I am adding this
attachment so other newbies might find far less pain getting their
Kantronics TNC's back into command mode following a kiss session WITHOUT
HARD RESET!  I hope I added enough help for folks to understand how to
use it.

However, I need help.

I would like to use xastir to add a new SERIAL TNC and not a kiss tnc.
I can modify the start up file and exit file.  What I need help with is
HOW to get the kiss off command into that text file so xastir will leave
my tnc back in command mode.

xastir default files in debian/ubuntu/mint are:
tnc-start.sys and tnc-stop.sys in /usr/share/xastir/config/

Is there anyone with working files that would be willing to share this
secret?

Thank you, 73
j


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[Xastir] kiss off command to restore your tnc back to command mode

2018-10-18 Thread MJ Inabnit


Learned a lot over the last two evenings.  First, I am adding this
attachment so other newbies might find far less pain getting their
Kantronics TNC's back into command mode following a kiss session WITHOUT
HARD RESET!  I hope I added enough help for folks to understand how to
use it.

However, I need help.

I would like to use xastir to add a new SERIAL TNC and not a kiss tnc.
I can modify the start up file and exit file.  What I need help with is
HOW to get the kiss off command into that text file so xastir will leave
my tnc back in command mode.

xastir default files in debian/ubuntu/mint are:
tnc-start.sys and tnc-stop.sys in /usr/share/xastir/config/

Is there anyone with working files that would be willing to share this
secret?

Thank you, 73
j
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wishing you well
Jaye, ke6sls--via the toshiba w/thunderchicken
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