Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
Thanks, Tom. I've noted this on the wiki page as well. On 03/21/2012 10:56 AM, Tom Hayward wrote: I was able to test with a dumb terminal. I sent each of the TNC mode commands and watched the output for NMEA strings. TH-D72 v1.02: TNC off: GPS output works TNC APRS12: GPS output works TNC PACKET12: no GPS output TH-D72 v1.03: TNC off: GPS output works TNC APRS12: GPS output works TNC PACKET12: no GPS output This seems to confirm the bug we've been seeing all along is also present in 1.03. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:12, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: I upgraded my radio to 1.05 last Thursday and I'm not sure if it's safe to go back down to 1.03. I do have the 1.03 installer if anybody is running older than 1.03 and wants to try the 1.03 upgrade. To my horror and disgust, I just realized I'm still back on 1.02. If you send me the 1.03 installer and instructions about what mode you want me to be in and what you want me to see (APRS and NMEA, I'm assuming), I can test for you. After the test I'll be upgrading to 1.05. Tom KD7LXL ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
I will send it to you off-list. Here's what I want you to do: 1. Apply the update 2. Follow the instructions at http://wiki.complete.org/THD72PCAPRS to configure the radio (two menu items) and Xastir 3. Down in the Use section of that page, bring up the radio in APRS ro mode. (Press TNC on radio, APRS should show up, select the ro option that the page had you configure in Xastir.) 4. Verify that Xastir has a fix on your location. 5. Using Interface Control in Xastir, take that interface DOWN. 6. This will turn off the TNC. 7. Press the TNC button again, turning the TNC on to APRS mode. 8. In Xastir interface control, bring up the packet rw mode that the wiki page had you configure. The D72A display should now switch from APRS to PACKET12. 9. Right-click somewhere on the map and select move my station here to move it to a fake position. 10. See if you get some feedback from the GPS to move it back to the correct position. 1. These steps are because it looks like Xastir may still pick up a packet from the working APRS mode that the radio was in just prior to switching, and give an initial one-time fix. Make sense? -- John On 03/21/2012 09:18 AM, Tom Hayward wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:12, John Goerzenjgoer...@complete.org wrote: I upgraded my radio to 1.05 last Thursday and I'm not sure if it's safe to go back down to 1.03. I do have the 1.03 installer if anybody is running older than 1.03 and wants to try the 1.03 upgrade. To my horror and disgust, I just realized I'm still back on 1.02. If you send me the 1.03 installer and instructions about what mode you want me to be in and what you want me to see (APRS and NMEA, I'm assuming), I can test for you. After the test I'll be upgrading to 1.05. Tom KD7LXL ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On 03/19/2012 05:08 PM, Kai Gunter Brandt wrote: I have not been able to verify this. On v1.05 with TNC v1.00 i'm only getting NMEA data when the radio are in APRS mode or when the radio is NOT in TNC mode. This was also true in an earlier versions so maybe only 1.03 this is working? And then we have to report this to Kenwood once more. I can confirm this on 1.05 as well. I don't know, now, whether: * I was mistaken on this on 1.03... * Or it worked on 1.03 I think it worked, but honestly I tested the APRS mode more closely because that's the one people were saying didn't work. I upgraded my radio to 1.05 last Thursday and I'm not sure if it's safe to go back down to 1.03. I do have the 1.03 installer if anybody is running older than 1.03 and wants to try the 1.03 upgrade. -- John Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On 03/20/2012 04:12 PM, John Goerzen wrote: I can confirm this on 1.05 as well. I don't know, now, whether: * I was mistaken on this on 1.03... * Or it worked on 1.03 I think it worked, but honestly I tested the APRS mode more closely because that's the one people were saying didn't work. It's the TNC mode that did not work. For the APRS and non APRS/TNC mode you just had to enable the format you wanted. I upgraded my radio to 1.05 last Thursday and I'm not sure if it's safe to go back down to 1.03. I do have the 1.03 installer if anybody is running older than 1.03 and wants to try the 1.03 upgrade. It's probably safe but i'm not sure if the software allows you to downgrade. Anyhow the upgrade has fixed several issues so for me even the GPS data is not a good argument to downgrade. We just have to report this GPS issue once more to Kenwood so that it might work on the next version. Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
Sooo, Does this mean that someone else has been able to confirm this? The problem I had with the D7A(g) operating in that fashion is that even though the GPS position was passed through to Xastir, Xastir treated it as just another station. If one can get Xastir to look at that data as the location of your station, I can see some use to it. I couldn't quite figure out how to reassign that data stream to my stations position. I also noted a random assignment to the icon and the positions end up coming in under the incoming data field. I said the above was with the D7A(g). Is that the way it behaves with the D72? If so, I don't see where that would be of any help. If setting it up as a serial TNC with a GPS on an AUX port corrects that. I'm in luck! :-) Kurt KC9LDH --- On Sat, 3/17/12, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: From: John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012, 8:53 PM On 03/17/2012 07:43 PM, Lee Bengston wrote: Just a suggestion for the wiki referenced above - it doesn't say which type of interface to create in Xastir. Good point - I have corrected it to mention Serial TNC with GPS on Aux port. -- John ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
If you watch the output from the D72A in minicom or some other serial program, you'll see lines that look various ways. APRS packets will have CALLDEST sort of appearance. GPS packets will start with $GPS It's a real GPS packet, not an APRS packet, and Xastir does the right thing with it as far as I can tell. -- John On 03/19/2012 02:23 PM, Kurt Savegnago wrote: Sooo, Does this mean that someone else has been able to confirm this? The problem I had with the D7A(g) operating in that fashion is that even though the GPS position was passed through to Xastir, Xastir treated it as just another station. If one can get Xastir to look at that data as the location of your station, I can see some use to it. I couldn't quite figure out how to reassign that data stream to my stations position. I also noted a random assignment to the icon and the positions end up coming in under the incoming data field. I said the above was with the D7A(g). Is that the way it behaves with the D72? If so, I don't see where that would be of any help. If setting it up as a serial TNC with a GPS on an AUX port corrects that. I'm in luck! :-) Kurt KC9LDH --- On Sat, 3/17/12, John Goerzenjgoer...@complete.org wrote: From: John Goerzenjgoer...@complete.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir To: Xastir - APRS client software discussionxastir@lists.xastir.org Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012, 8:53 PM On 03/17/2012 07:43 PM, Lee Bengston wrote: Just a suggestion for the wiki referenced above - it doesn't say which type of interface to create in Xastir. Good point - I have corrected it to mention Serial TNC with GPS on Aux port. -- John ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On 03/19/2012 09:36 PM, John Goerzen wrote: If you watch the output from the D72A in minicom or some other serial program, you'll see lines that look various ways. APRS packets will have CALLDEST sort of appearance. GPS packets will start with $GPS It's a real GPS packet, not an APRS packet, and Xastir does the right thing with it as far as I can tell. -- John I have not been able to verify this. On v1.05 with TNC v1.00 i'm only getting NMEA data when the radio are in APRS mode or when the radio is NOT in TNC mode. This was also true in an earlier versions so maybe only 1.03 this is working? And then we have to report this to Kenwood once more. Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On 03/17/2012 07:43 PM, Lee Bengston wrote: Just a suggestion for the wiki referenced above - it doesn't say which type of interface to create in Xastir. Good point - I have corrected it to mention Serial TNC with GPS on Aux port. -- John ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On 03/15/2012 05:01 PM, John Goerzen wrote: I'm not sure how to find out the firmware version on a running device, but based on the descriptions at http://www.kenwood.com/i/products/info/amateur/th_d72/thd72_main_update_e.html it looks like I have 1.04. -- John I think it was: hold ENT and then power on. If so then we can post your discovery at the TH-D72 group as lotz of people are waiting for this possibility. A few firmware ago this did not work and i removed the TNC commands from the xastir and ui-view TNC-files. Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On 03/15/2012 09:01 PM, John Goerzen wrote: Just figured it out. Main firmware 1.03 TNC 1.00 -- John Thanks :o) I'll post your findings on the TH-D72 group if it's ok for you. Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
No problem at all. Where is that group, incidentally? I'm interested in it. I've updated the wiki page with this info as well. -- John KR0L On 03/16/2012 01:32 AM, Kai Gunter Brandt wrote: On 03/15/2012 09:01 PM, John Goerzen wrote: Just figured it out. Main firmware 1.03 TNC 1.00 -- John Thanks :o) I'll post your findings on the TH-D72 group if it's ok for you. Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
On 03/15/2012 02:41 AM, John Goerzen wrote: I thank everyone that has contributed on this list for the background info, and in particular Kai Günter Brandt's D710 setup scripts which I was able to lightly modify for the D72A. His info was at http://lists.xastir.org/pipermail/xastir/2011-July/020111.html in case anyone needs to find it. Tnx could you please post the firmware version for both the radio and TNC? Before my last firmware upgrade the part with: LTMH LTM 10 LOC E 0 did not work in TNC mode via the USB cable not even when the GPS had a fix. So maybe this has been changed in the latest firmware? Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
I'm not sure how to find out the firmware version on a running device, but based on the descriptions at http://www.kenwood.com/i/products/info/amateur/th_d72/thd72_main_update_e.html it looks like I have 1.04. -- John On 03/15/2012 02:25 AM, Kai Gunter Brandt wrote: On 03/15/2012 02:41 AM, John Goerzen wrote: I thank everyone that has contributed on this list for the background info, and in particular Kai Günter Brandt's D710 setup scripts which I was able to lightly modify for the D72A. His info was at http://lists.xastir.org/pipermail/xastir/2011-July/020111.html in case anyone needs to find it. Tnx could you please post the firmware version for both the radio and TNC? Before my last firmware upgrade the part with: LTMH LTM 10 LOC E 0 did not work in TNC mode via the USB cable not even when the GPS had a fix. So maybe this has been changed in the latest firmware? Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TH-D72A with Internal GPS working with Xastir
Just figured it out. Main firmware 1.03 TNC 1.00 -- John On 03/15/2012 11:01 AM, John Goerzen wrote: I'm not sure how to find out the firmware version on a running device, but based on the descriptions at http://www.kenwood.com/i/products/info/amateur/th_d72/thd72_main_update_e.html it looks like I have 1.04. -- John On 03/15/2012 02:25 AM, Kai Gunter Brandt wrote: On 03/15/2012 02:41 AM, John Goerzen wrote: I thank everyone that has contributed on this list for the background info, and in particular Kai Günter Brandt's D710 setup scripts which I was able to lightly modify for the D72A. His info was at http://lists.xastir.org/pipermail/xastir/2011-July/020111.html in case anyone needs to find it. Tnx could you please post the firmware version for both the radio and TNC? Before my last firmware upgrade the part with: LTMH LTM 10 LOC E 0 did not work in TNC mode via the USB cable not even when the GPS had a fix. So maybe this has been changed in the latest firmware? Kai Gunter LA3QMA ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
