Re: [Xastir] standards are wonderful...

2009-08-21 Thread Niall Parker

Alex Carver wrote:

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, mark.rice wrote:

Finally, I wondered if the serial ribbon cable had the proper
pin-out for the motherboard header  no, it didn't. It wasn't
even close, and I kick myself for not checking that.  But who would
make their own standard, eh?


That's a little surprising considering there is a standard for the
serial port pinout.  It was a one-to-one mapping.  Pin one of the
header went to pin one of the D-shell connector.  Pin 10 was to be
blank and used as a polarity key with a matching plug in the
connector hole.


The other cable is typically to make it easy for use with IDC 
connectors, just clamp one on each end. I'm sure both made perfectly 
good sense to the engineers involved, just a different viewpoint (a 
perfect example of the difference between an internal and external 
interface ... ;)


I always made a point to mark my serial cables as 'A' or 'B' just to 
make sure they didn't get mixed up.


... Niall
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Re: [Xastir] standards are wonderful...

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Carver
--- On Fri, 8/21/09, mark.rice wrote:
> Finally, I wondered if the serial ribbon cable had the
> proper pin-out
> for the motherboard header  no, it didn't. 
> It wasn't even close,
> and I kick myself for not checking that.  But who
> would make their own
> standard, eh?  

That's a little surprising considering there is a standard for the serial port 
pinout.  It was a one-to-one mapping.  Pin one of the header went to pin one of 
the D-shell connector.  Pin 10 was to be blank and used as a polarity key with 
a matching plug in the connector hole.

However, I had the same experience with a motherboard using a USB header.  It 
is five pins and is normally set up as Power, Data Minus, Data Plus, and 
Ground.  This one motherboard has some weird arrangement that I have yet to 
figure out because one port works and the other doesn't.  I'll have to probe it 
some more next time I open it to see if I can get both ports functional.


  
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