Re: [XFree86] Bug report

2003-02-22 Thread Frank Van Damme
On Saturday 22 February 2003 11:08, Thibaut HENRY wrote:
 My graphic card is an S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR (32Mo of RAM) :

 When the X server is launched : I have this error


 XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
 Release Date: 3 September 2002
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
 newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
 reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-23mdkenterprise i686 [ELF]
 Module Loader present
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Feb 18 23:40:59 2003
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
 (==) ServerLayout layout1
 (**) |--Screen screen1 (0)
 (**) | |--Monitor monitor1
 (**) | |--Device device1
 (EE) No core pointer device specified
 (EE) Unable to determine the screen layout
 (EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile()
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
 the full server output, not just the last messages.
 This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.
 Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Are you sure this is a bug? It looks like a misconfiguration. Did you 
configure the server manually or with  Xfdrake (You're running mandrake 
right?) . 

Normally, X uses this kind of scheme for its configuration:

serverlayout
* keyboard
* mouse
* screen
- monitor
- graphics device

Since the server says no core pointer device specified it probably doesn't 
know how to use your mouse. In your ServerLayout section, there must be a 
line like

InputDevice foo CorePointer

Where foo corresponds to the Identifier name in the InputDevice section that 
descripbes your mouse. 

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[XFree86] weird behaviour in rc2

2003-02-21 Thread Frank Van Damme
Hello,

I just compiled 4.2.99.902 and when I run that version, every time I press a 
arrow button the resolution changes. Doese anyone else have this problem?

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[Xpert]radeon dual head problem

2002-12-18 Thread Frank Van Damme
Hello,

I am currently trying to use the dualhead features of my video card.

I own a radeon 8500 retail, a computer with debian on it and xfree86
4.2.99_2 and a couple of monitors. I am trying to dual-head. At the end I
hope to get a fixed frequency sun monitor running (I posted on this 
mailinglist about that more then half a year ago, but now I finally got hold 
of some good adaptors), but at the moment I am still trying to get an older 
15 inch pc thing working (first dualhead must work - first crawl, then walk). 

So I plug in my regular Nokia at the vga connector, and a dvi to vga
adaptor in the second head (it was included in the cards box). On top of
that goes the 15 incher.

The result is pretty disappointing... I read from the XF86Config-4 man page 
that a directive 'Screen n' must be used to denote the different heads. So I 
set up my config file as follows:



# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section Files

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb


#FontPath   unix/:-1
#FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
FontPath   tcp/localhost:7110
FontPath   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
#FontPath   
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID
#FontPath   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID
FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
FontPath   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/home/yalu/.fonts
EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section ServerFlags

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.
#DontZoom

# This  allows  the  server  to start up even if the
# mouse device can't be opened/initialised.
AllowMouseOpenFail

EndSection

# **
# Input devices
# **

# **
# Keyboard section
# **

Section InputDevice

Identifier Keyboard1
Driver  Keyboard
Option AutoRepeat  250 30

Option XkbRules xfree86
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout be

EndSection

# **
# Pointer section
# **

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolImPS/2
Option Device  /dev/psaux
Option Buttons 3
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
#  Option Emulate3Buttons
#Option Emulate3Timeout50
# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
#Option ChordMiddle
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  serieel
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolMicrosoft
Option Device  /dev/ttyS0
#Option Buttons2
  Option Emulate3Buttons
#Option Emulate3Timeout50
# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
#Option ChordMiddle
EndSection

Section Module
# This loads the DBE extension module.
Loaddbe
Loadglx
Loaddri
# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection  extmod
#Option omit xfree86-dga
EndSubSection
# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
Loadtype1
Loadfreetype
EndSection

# **
# Monitor section
# **

# onze fancy fixedfrequency monitor
Section Monitor
Identifier gdm1962b
VendorName Sun
ModelName  gdm 1962b


ModeLine 1152x864   115 1152 1200 1300 1600   864 864 868 900 
-hsync -vsync

EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier targa
VendorName Targa
ModelName  niks
HorizSync  30.0-50.0
VertRefresh 50.0-100.0
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier nokia
VendorName Nokia
ModelName  Unknown


# HorizSync is in kHz 

Re: [Xpert]radeon dual head problem

2002-12-18 Thread Frank Van Damme
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 20:53, Shadow wrote:
 I'm about to share more or less the extent of my
 world knowledge:  To my reckoning, the ATI's
 don't go dual-head on Mandrake.  No I know
 you're saying to self I'm not running Mandrake
 but the -4 system is similar betwixt MDK and
 yours.  Don't lose all heart, though.  The other
 possibility is that you're neglecting one small
 thing.  (My 7500 doesn't work if I don't do this)
 You may need the screen n numbers numbers in
 place before the Screen lines in the Server
 Layout section.in summary, try:

I am sure that dual-heading with this card is possible; at least, someone on 
irc (russ, #dri) told me he was running a dual head system with it. The weird 
thing is that Xfree86 claims to be using the monitor, but nothing shows up on 
the screen. As I said, my X installation is pretty recent. Plus, it isn't 
even a Debian or Mandrake install but a compilation from CVS. 

 Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
 ^   ^ ^
Are these documented? In any case: it does not really help. 

 Screen 1 Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
 
 As I said, mine won't work without it.  Good luck
 and have a good Christmas.



Thank you :)
Frank

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 8500 kernel module

2002-06-10 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Monday 10 June 2002 04:58 pm, you wrote:
 There is no Radeon 8500 DRI support currently, so thats no
 surprise.  ;o)

 If you go back a day or so in the list archives however you'll
 find a posting from Tungsten Graphics stating they're being
 funded by The Weather Channel to write a DRI driver for the 8500
 which will be released in Q4 2002.

I guess that is business speak for october - december? :-)

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Re: [Xpert]modelines for hdtv?

2002-06-02 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Sunday 02 June 2002 06:53 pm, you wrote:
 OpenGL based 3D window / desktop managers have been around for
 several years. I don't have any names, but they do what you want,
 plus allow windows to exist at an angle to the screen
 (tilt it away, so that you can still get an overview of what is going
 on, but take up very little width or height...).

But I do. Check out the latest cvs sources from enlightenment 0.17. It's 
immature but fairly stable.

Are there any others, then?


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Re: [Xpert]Changing desktop manager

2002-05-23 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Thursday 23 May 2002 07:47 pm, Einari Lappo wrote:
 I am having problems changing my desktop manager. I updated XFree to 4.2.0
 and after that only TWM will start eventhough switchdesk shows that desktop
 chosen is KDE. I've tried to run switchdesk several times and tried to
 choose different desktop managers but TWM will start always when I start X.

 I am running Redhat7.2 and earlier I have succeeded to update XFree with no
 problems. This time I didn't use .rpms but the official install package
 containing .tgz files. I've even tried to reinstall KDE, but it didn't
 work.

 So, is there maybe a file or files which I could change manually...?

.xinitrc in y'r homedir.

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Re: [Xpert]RADEON Mobility problem with ThinkPad A30P

2002-05-13 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Thursday 09 May 2002 02:34 am, you wrote:
 3) The logout window of gnome is accompanied
 by artifacts: two black polygons. I saw this on
 a desktop RADEON 8500 as well.

I get a weird smearing effect when I minimize windows in Enlightenment (using 
a built-in minimize animation) with my radeon 8500. I am using the linux 
binaries from XFree, version 4.2.0. I'd like to show a screenshot, but 
ksnapshot doesn't seem to be capable to take a shot of it, in fact it hung my 
X server for a while. 

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Re: Re: Voodoo 3 and 4.2.0

2002-05-10 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Friday 10 May 2002 03:01 pm, Jules Bean wrote:
 If I run my desktop@1600x1200 on a voodoo 3 (which I am at the
 moment), but load a 3D game which switches the resolution down to
 something more sane like 800x600, will that game be able to use DRI
 then, at that reduced resolution?  Or would I have to restart the X
 server at a lower resolution?

 That would be a nice thing to support, if it is possible to support
 it.

Since that game changes the X server's resolution, there is no problem at 
all. There would be one if that game crashed ;-)

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Re: Re: Voodoo 3 and 4.2.0

2002-05-10 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Friday 10 May 2002 05:45 pm, Billy Biggs wrote:
   Unfortunately, in X you can't yet change the desktop resolution, only
 the visible resolution:  the 2D desktop will still eat up all the video
 RAM.  So while it might work in Windows, I don't think it will work in X
 until xrandr is done.

In that case, you'll have to make 2 screen environments... or have your 
desktop at a sane resolution ;-)

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Re: Re: Voodoo 3 and 4.2.0

2002-05-09 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Thursday 09 May 2002 10:12 pm, Mike A. Harris wrote:

 Might not sound insane, but the bare fact is that it does not
 work in XFree86.  I could care less personally if it ever does,
 as it is obsolete hardware.  I only care that XFree86 does not
 crash.  If nobody else is interested in fixing it either, then I
 believe the X/DRI sources should detect this problem and disable
 it by default as I have done, unless we now consider it ok for
 the X server to crash for no reason other than it being
 configured in a way that the drivers do not support currently.

Not as obsolete as you think. Untill a few months ago I ran a voodoo3 3000 
for playing quake which is bearable @ 920*7something. Still it would make no 
sense to run it @1600*1200 (no question) so you're using OR dri, OR 
desktop@1600*1200. Conclusion: no problem at all.

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Re: [Xpert]Happy Birthday XFree86!

2002-04-26 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 01:00 pm, you wrote:
 I swear by Linux , rather than at it

The real beauty of Xfree is that it runs on more then 1 platform ;-)

That, and the fact that it can both cooperate with old technology and still 
be up with the latest technological niftities - like hardware rendering, 
which does it better and faster then other, proprietary platforms :-)

For your comment, I can only agree :-)


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Re: [Xpert]cvs compilation trouble

2002-04-25 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Friday 19 April 2002 10:13 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
 Hello,

 I am trying to compile a fresh Xfree from cvs. I just finally got my ati
 radeon 8500 video card and I want to keep up with the latest version of X -
 to make it work now (debian ships only 4.1) and I'll update again when 3d
 support is there. BUT (there is a 'but') I get errors making the World:

 yalu@dionysos:~/build/xc$ make World

 Building Release 6.6 of the X Window System.

 I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf
 to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS.
 
 I hope this is useful to someone, with a bit of luck it means cvs is broken
 and in the other case I'm sorry to have wasted your time...


  My site.def is modified just slighty.

Ok, installation succeeded but only when I change nothing at all in the 
config files. How can I be sure that make install doesn't overwrite anything 
in /usr/X11R6? I want it to remain clean.

Frank


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[Xpert]cvs compilation trouble

2002-04-19 Thread Frank Van Damme

Hello,

I am trying to compile a fresh Xfree from cvs. I just finally got my ati 
radeon 8500 video card and I want to keep up with the latest version of X - 
to make it work now (debian ships only 4.1) and I'll update again when 3d 
support is there. BUT (there is a 'but') I get errors making the World:

yalu@dionysos:~/build/xc$ make World

Building Release 6.6 of the X Window System.

I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf
to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS.

Fri Apr 19 21:52:58 CEST 2002

cd ./config/imake  make  -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= CC=cc clean
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/yalu/build/xc/config/imake'
rm -f ccimake imake.o imake
rm -f *.CKP *.ln *.BAK *.bak *.o core errs ,* *~ *.a tags TAGS make.log \#*
rm -f -r Makefile.proto Makefile Makefile.dep bootstrap
rm -f imakemdep_cpp.h
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/yalu/build/xc/config/imake'
make  Makefile.boot
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/yalu/build/xc'
cd ./config/imake  make -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= CC=cc
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/yalu/build/xc/config/imake'
making imake with BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= and CROSSCOMPILEFLAGS=-DCROSSCOMPILEDIR= 
in config/imake
cc -o ccimake -DCROSSCOMPILEDIR=\\  -O -I../../include 
-I../../imports/x11/include/X11 ccimake.c
if [ -n  ] ; then \
/cc -E `./ccimake` \
-DCROSSCOMPILE_CPP imakemdep.h  imakemdep_cpp.h; \
else touch imakemdep_cpp.h; fi
cc -c  -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 `./ccimake` imake.c
cc -o imake  -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 imake.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/yalu/build/xc/config/imake'
rm -f ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto
./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf  -s ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto -f 
./config/makedepend/Imakefile -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/makedepend
cd ./config/makedepend  rm -f -r Makefile Makefile.dep makedepend *.o 
bootstrap
cd ./config/makedepend  make -f Makefile.proto bootstrap
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/yalu/build/xc/config/makedepend'
Makefile.proto:1128: *** missing `endef', unterminated `define'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/yalu/build/xc/config/makedepend'
make[1]: *** [depend.bootstrap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/yalu/build/xc'
make: *** [World] Error 2


I hope this is useful to someone, with a bit of luck it means cvs is broken 
and in the other case I'm sorry to have wasted your time...  


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Re: [Xpert]ATI Rage XL XV support

2002-04-17 Thread Frank Van Damme

  AFAIK, their drivers are mature and stable enough to be included in core
  XFree86 CVS tree, aren't they?  In fact, lots of people expected them in
  4.2.0.  What are official plans with respect to this subject?  Will we
  see Xft2 and gatos' drivers in 4.2.1? ;-)

 GATOS functionality will be merged in by next release.

You people are totally cool :-)

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Re: [Xpert]Matrox G400 Dual Head

2002-04-11 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Thursday 11 April 2002 07:14 pm, you wrote:
  I'm trying to get a Matrox G400 dual head card working with XF86 4.2.
  The only documentation I found was under 4.1, so if there is something
  newer, let me know.

 Naturally I found the solution shortly after posting this. Matrox has a
 sample config file in their release notes:

 ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/linux/2002/lnx200notes.txt

 The secret is putting Screen 0 and Screen 1 in the 2 device sections. I
 hadn't seen that used before.

As far as I remember, Matrox also had a (proprietary) graphical tool that 
allowed you to set up dualhead with their cards under Xfree86 (for gnu/linux 
at least).

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[Xpert]two radeon 8500 questions?

2002-04-08 Thread Frank Van Damme

Hello,

I'll hopefully be receiving my brand new ati radeon 8500 shortly. My question 
was: I know Xfree86 can make most ati cards output composyte sync signals. Is 
this feature allready in the driver for the Radeon 8500?

Second question: 3d isn't supported in the 8500 driver yet. I understand the 
workload on the shoulders on the Xfree devellopers. But does anyone have an 
idea when openGL and the like may be supported?

Thank you very much.

Frank

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Re: [Xpert]getting X to work on a toshiba satellite 210cs

2002-04-04 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Thursday 04 April 2002 10:00 am, you wrote:
 The ct65550 does have a very low pixel clock limit.
 It's possible to exceed this limit using hand selected
 clock values - but we don't do this in the driver.

 You need to make your own modeline for 800x600 using
 a pixel clock not exceeding the 35 MHz.
 You can use
    35.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 605 628
 which is the 60Hz modeline with a lower pixel clock.

Yes! yes! YES!!! It works! Thank you!

If I change the numbers to your modelines, X told me that my vertical refresh 
rate was just a bit too high. Needed to be 52.something. So I decreased the 
lower limit by 5 and now it works. 

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[Xpert]getting X to work on a toshiba satellite 210cs

2002-04-03 Thread Frank Van Damme


Hello list

I am trying to get a friends toshiba satellite 210CS (which is a pentium 
120/48 ram aamof) to work with linux. I installed debian gnu/linux on it and 
I am trying to get X to work. The graphics card seems to be a chips and 
technologies ct65550, the lcd monitor should be able to do 800*600. I tried 
both X version 4 (xfree server) and the svga server from 3.3.6 at no avail.

The error I get with the svga server is:

SVGA: clock for mode 800*600 is too high for the configured hardware. Limit 
is 35.464 MHz

fatal server error: no valid modes found.

I am using this config file: http://www.die-kettners.de/linux/xf86-1.htm

For X 4, I assembled my own config file which only works in a 640x480 
resolution.

The config file is below, as well as the server output. I hope someone can 
help me out on this. 

CONFIG

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default Layout
Screen Default Screen 0 0
InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard
InputDeviceConfigured Mouse
InputDeviceGeneric Mouse
EndSection

Section Files
FontPath unix/:7100
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  bitmap
Load  dbe
Load  ddc
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  freetype
Load  glx
Load  int10
Load  pex5
Load  record
Load  speedo
Load  type1
Load  vbe
Load  xie
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules xfree86
Option  XkbModel pc101
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  Protocol PS/2
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  SendCoreEvents true
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons true
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section Monitor
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 3D support

2002-03-22 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Friday 22 March 2002 02:12 pm, Anders Saaby wrote:
 Hi!

 Have anybody any idea about when we could expect OpenGL support for the
 ATI Radeon 8500 card in Xfree? Are anybody working on it?

 - Im sorry im not a developer, så i can not contribute...

 Thanks in advance!

 Anders Saaby

I hope soon. I ordered a such card and I hope to be gaming under linux soon.

Go for it XFree devellopers ;)

Frank


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[Xpert]Re: problems installing Woody on Ultra1

2002-03-16 Thread Frank Van Damme

On Friday 15 March 2002 23:50, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote:
 If you've got another machine around, try the tftpboot method.
 Really simple and it works, after that you can try to install from the net
 or via a NFS mount off of that tftpboot-server or some other supported
 method.

How can a sparc be remote booted? x86 use etherboot or a bootable network 
card but sparcs?

Frank

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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Frank Van Damme



(suddenly noticed I was only replying personally and not to the list)


On Sunday 24 February 2002 18:59, you wrote:
 Frank Van Damme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  It's a certain HV refresh rate; someone told me for 1152x900 it
  would be 61,8 KHz H and 66 Hz V.

 This is most likely wrong, the 1962b in its factory setting likes H
 around 72 kHz to maybe 78kHz. 1280x960 is my preferred resolution.

 You can try these modelines:

   ModeLine 1152x864   115 1152 1200 1300 1600   864 864 868 900 
-hsync
 -vsync ModeLine 1280x960   131 1280 1336 1456 1680   960 964 968 1000
 -hsync -vsync

I got this from a pdf on the monitor I own:

Vertical refresh rate : 60-85 Hz 
Horizontal Scan rate: 60- 80 KHz (Kilo Hetrz). 
Default set to 72Khz--- this is what you just said.
Horizontal scan rate is adjusted by H.Freq (Hold) as mentioned above. 
Maximum Resolution: 1600x1200 
Monitor Adjusted for: 1024x768 Tube: Sony Trinitron

http://www.fixedfrequency.com/FTP_Diablo/Readme.txt says:

d-1962b.rom9.02a  72 khz, 85 hz  Sun/Sony GDM-1962b, GDM-1662b

This is annoying, information I find on the web often contradicts. Even basic 
things like refresh rates. 

The pdf gives *ranges* for a fixed freq monitor??

  Can a nvidia riva tnt2 M64 support this?

 Most likely yes. There are only a few broken cards that cannot produce
 negative sync, all others should work.

And posts on mailing lists apparently contradict too :-)

If I ever find out how to get the monitor to work I'l certainly do a 
follow-up here and in debian-sparc...

  I just want to know what video cards can do fixed-freq. monitors
  before I buy a 13W3-hd15 adaptor.

 Depending on the intended use of the monitor and depending on the
 adaptor you may need a card that does composite sync. Some do, others
 don't... You can get an adapter that does the mixing.

See the note above: the cheapos should do that no?


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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Frank Van Damme


(suddenly noticed I replied personally instead of to the list, sorry)


On Sunday 24 February 2002 19:40, you wrote:
Fixed frequency is not a problem and pretty much any video card
 can nail the frequencies if you've got the correct modeline.  The
 problem is that most fixed frequency monitors are also sync-on-green
 or in the case of Sun, composite-sync.  NVIDIA cards cannot do
 sync-on-green nor composite-sync.  

Hm. I think someone on the debian sparc mailing list told me the adaptor 
would solve this problem, it's called a 'sync combiner' I think. 

Anyway. If the nvidia doesn't work, Maybe a radeon card would?


(I suddenly also notice Mark Vojkovich works for nvidia :) )



 --- copy-paste --- 

 so any video cable adaptor
 *must* contain a sync combiner. The Ultraspec # 1396 adaptor is one that
 does and it's made to work with older Sun colour monitors when connected
 to PC's.

I guess these cheapos wont:
http://www.miragemultimedia.biz/product.asp?3=97

They are talking about the  SUN 20d10 monitor, is that one comparable to mine 
you think? (No I don't know too much about sun hardware as you can tell).

http://store.yahoo.com/cablesonline/vgato13sunvi.html
They aren't talking about anything :)

But with that adaptor from ultraspec (36$) I should have everything I need to 
get pretty (big) pictures on my PC?

-   -   His answer: -   -

Yes, that adaptor (or a similar third-party one) will enable the 1962
monitor to work with your PC's framebuffer once you get it to generate the
right video specs. The cable adaptor is only a wiring adaptor - it's still
up to your PC's display card to output signals with suitable parameters to
make the monitor happy. 8-)

 --- copy-paste --- 


  Am I also right thinking I will only be able to use the monitor under X
  (no console or boot messages)?

That's correct for the bios screen, but svgatext mode should be able
 to let you see most of the boot messages (from the part where it gets
 loaded).

I'll compile it in.
No problem!! ;-)

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