RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-07 Thread Miles Roper
Hi Mark,

ok, using restest I get the following with ica, when viewing a powerpoint
presentation, with a heap of bitmap pictures.

X-Resource extension version 1.0
There are 5 clients
Client 0 (base = 0x20, mask = 0x1f): 7 resource types
   WINDOW: 3
   GC: 5
   FONT: 2
   CURSOR: 2
   COLORMAP ENTRY: 1
   Unregistered resource 22: 1
   Unregistered resource 32: 1
Client 1 (base = 0x40, mask = 0x1f): 10 resource types
   WINDOW: 100
   PIXMAP: 71  (750616 bytes)
   GC: 7
   FONT: 5
   CURSOR: 4
   COLORMAP ENTRY: 1
   OTHER CLIENT: 3
   PASSIVE GRAB: 48
   Unregistered resource 21: 2
   Unregistered resource 32: 1
Client 2 (base = 0x60, mask = 0x1f): 3 resource types
   PIXMAP: 1  (512 bytes)
   COLORMAP ENTRY: 1
   Unregistered resource 32: 1
Client 3 (base = 0x80, mask = 0x1f): 9 resource types
   WINDOW: 4
   PIXMAP: 25  (356372 bytes)
   GC: 37
   FONT: 2
   CURSOR: 3
   COLORMAP ENTRY: 1
   OTHER CLIENT: 1
   Unregistered resource 22: 1
   Unregistered resource 32: 1
Client 4 (base = 0xa0, mask = 0x1f): 1 resource types
   GC: 1

I'll just show the pixmap line as the power point show runs.

   PIXMAP: 33  (1894900 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 33  (5425556 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 35  (6385684 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 34  (7345428 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 39  (7346068 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 41  (6452660 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 37  (6385940 bytes)
   PIXMAP: 25  (356372 bytes)

doing a PS shows the memory of the XServer Process shows

8456
11276
14096
14108
13168
8456

I tried with rdesktop and get something similar.

Ideas?

Cheers

Miles

-Original Message-
From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2003 12:48 p.m.
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: bingjie bingjie; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thinstation-Developer (E-mail); 'Mike Eriksen'
Subject: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory



  It really doesn't sound like this is a server problem, rather
the client is allocating BIG pixmaps or something like that.  You
can verify that by running restest:

http://www.xfree86.org/~mvojkovi/restest.c

 Be careful!  If you run that app you'll want to run it by redirecting
the output to a file restest  outfile because it grabs the server
and can introduce a deadlock if the terminal is printing the output
while restest is running.  Restest prints out the number of bytes
worth of pixmap memory held on behalf of each client.  Restest needs
XFree86 4.3 or newer to run.


Mark.


On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 I'm curious how you got it to work too :o)
 
 Yep, that's the Xfree memory problem, this has been mentioned before on
 mailing list.  no idea why this occurs.  X is basically eating up all the
 memory and then crashing when it runs out.  No known solution as yet, I've
 posted to the X mailing list, no answer :o(  This one bug I would really
 like to get sorted but don't have any solutions, I've spent several hours
 searching on net and trolling through mailing lists, any help from anyone
 would be much appreciated.
 
 where you using ICA, rdesktop or something else when playing the movie?
 
 I've attached the orginally email I got no reply to below...
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm having a really weird XFree86 problem.  I'm using XFree 4.3 and
running
 on it Citrix ICA Version 7.0
 
 The ICA client connects to a windows Citrix server.
 
 If I open up a document in word through the ICAClient with a bitmap
picture
 the memory requirements of XFree86 seem to increase dramatically, but the
 wfica process stays the same.  If I close the file the memory returns to
 normal.
 
 ie before document:
  Memory
  1952 root   3612 S   XFree86 :1 -depth 16
 
 after document:
   Memory
  1952 root   4836 S   XFree86 :1
 
 if I open up 12 documents the machine runs out of memory and closes down
the
 X server.  However, if I re-establish the connection to the server, which
 restores the 5 documents, I can open up another 5 before the client runs
out
 of memory again, and so on and so it.
 
 It only seems to be with certain documents as others seem to open up fine,
 the ones that seem effected are ones with a scanned in signature which I
 suspect is a BMP image embedded in the document.
 
 I've tried limiting the XFree86 server by using the following switches but
 it doesn't make any difference:
 
 XFree86 :1 -depth 16 -ld 4096 -ls 1024
 
 The client is 4.3.0.1, kernel version 2.4.20, ICA Client Version 7.0
 Server is Metraframe XP Version 1, Features release 3, Service Pack 3
 
 Ok, I'm stumped any help would be great.
 
 Cheers
 
 Miles
 
 
 TS 1.0 RC2
 When I playing Movie online the TS shutdown  give the
 message

RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-07 Thread Miles Roper
is there anyway to limit or set a maximum to the amount of pximap memory
that's allocated?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 8 September 2003 12:51 p.m.
To: Miles Roper
Cc: bingjie bingjie; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thinstation-Developer (E-mail); 'Mike Eriksen'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory




On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 I'll just show the pixmap line as the power point show runs.
 
PIXMAP: 33  (1894900 bytes)
PIXMAP: 33  (5425556 bytes)
PIXMAP: 35  (6385684 bytes)
PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
PIXMAP: 34  (7345428 bytes)
PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
PIXMAP: 39  (7346068 bytes)
PIXMAP: 41  (6452660 bytes)
PIXMAP: 37  (6385940 bytes)
PIXMAP: 25  (356372 bytes)
 
 doing a PS shows the memory of the XServer Process shows
 
 8456
 11276
 14096
 14108
 13168
 8456
 
 I tried with rdesktop and get something similar.
 
 Ideas?

   That looks like normal behavior.  The client allocated 7 Meg
worth of pixmaps and the server footprint grows accordingly.


Mark.
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RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-07 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 is there anyway to limit or set a maximum to the amount of pximap memory
 that's allocated?

   In the server?  No.  I don't suppose something like that would
be difficult to hack, but apps will most likely not be able to deal
with failing pixmap allocations.


Mark.


 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, 8 September 2003 12:51 p.m.
 To: Miles Roper
 Cc: bingjie bingjie; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Thinstation-Developer (E-mail); 'Mike Eriksen'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:
 
  I'll just show the pixmap line as the power point show runs.
  
 PIXMAP: 33  (1894900 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 33  (5425556 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 35  (6385684 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 34  (7345428 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 35  (7345556 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 36  (7345684 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 39  (7346068 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 41  (6452660 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 37  (6385940 bytes)
 PIXMAP: 25  (356372 bytes)
  
  doing a PS shows the memory of the XServer Process shows
  
  8456
  11276
  14096
  14108
  13168
  8456
  
  I tried with rdesktop and get something similar.
  
  Ideas?
 
That looks like normal behavior.  The client allocated 7 Meg
 worth of pixmaps and the server footprint grows accordingly.
 
 
   Mark.
 

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Re: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-05 Thread Alan Hourihane
You've removed all the other Load lines from your Module section and just
left the vnc.so there.

The 'Load vnc' line should be added to your EXISTING!! Module Section not
completely replaced.

That's your problem.

And as for the crashing, you've not read the release notes properly. The
.101 release requires you to put back the original video driver from
XFree86 4.3.0.

Alan.

On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 05:48:25PM +1200, Miles Roper wrote:
 Hi Alan,
 
 Could you have a look at this, I've been trying to work out a problem with
 Mark, but ran into a snitch with xf4vnc and would like your feedback.
 
 
 when I try a 
 
 xdpyinfo
 
 it doesn't show the X_Resouce extenstion
 
 when I do a
 
 xdpyinfo -ext all
 
 it says
 
 XFree-VidModeExtention extention not supported by server
 SHAPE extention not supported by server
 SYNC extention not supported by server
 XFree86-DGA extention not supported by server
 XFree86-Misc extention not supported by server
 DOUBLE-DUFFER extention not supported by server
 RECORD extention not supported by server
 XINERAMA extention not supported by server
 
 now, I'm loading the vnc.so module which I've just found out is the reason
 all the above extenstions aren't working.  When I remove it they work.  I've
 just tried to upgrade to xf4vnc 4.3.0.101 to see if this fixes any problems
 but now it doesn't work at all, here is my XFree86.log
 
 Also, a couple of people have been saying how slow Xfree seems to them,
 could it be because the above extenstions aren't supported?
 
 Cheers
 
 Miles
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 5 September 2003 04:49 p.m.
 To: Miles Roper
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; bingjie bingjie;
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thinstation-Developer
 (E-mail)
 Subject: RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:
 
  is this built as part of the XFree Binary, or is it in a seperate lib.a
  file, if so which one as I need to include this into my build.
 
It looks like it's in the libextmod.a module.  Perhaps you're
 just not loading that module?
 
   Mark.
 


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RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-04 Thread Miles Roper
is this built as part of the XFree Binary, or is it in a seperate lib.a
file, if so which one as I need to include this into my build.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2003 05:56 a.m.
To: Miles Roper
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; bingjie bingjie;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thinstation-Developer
(E-mail); 'Mike Eriksen'
Subject: RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory




On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 restest
 XResQueryExtension failed
 

   If X-Resource doesn't show up in the list of extensions that
xdpyinfo prints out, your server doesn't have support for the 
X Resource extension built in.  I believe XFree86 4.3 and newer build 
this by default (just make World without modifying anything).


Mark.
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RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-04 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 is this built as part of the XFree Binary, or is it in a seperate lib.a
 file, if so which one as I need to include this into my build.

   It looks like it's in the libextmod.a module.  Perhaps you're
just not loading that module?

Mark.

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RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 restest
 XResQueryExtension failed
 

   If X-Resource doesn't show up in the list of extensions that
xdpyinfo prints out, your server doesn't have support for the 
X Resource extension built in.  I believe XFree86 4.3 and newer build 
this by default (just make World without modifying anything).


Mark.

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[XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-02 Thread Miles Roper
I'm curious how you got it to work too :o)

Yep, that's the Xfree memory problem, this has been mentioned before on
mailing list.  no idea why this occurs.  X is basically eating up all the
memory and then crashing when it runs out.  No known solution as yet, I've
posted to the X mailing list, no answer :o(  This one bug I would really
like to get sorted but don't have any solutions, I've spent several hours
searching on net and trolling through mailing lists, any help from anyone
would be much appreciated.

where you using ICA, rdesktop or something else when playing the movie?

I've attached the orginally email I got no reply to below...

Hi,

I'm having a really weird XFree86 problem.  I'm using XFree 4.3 and running
on it Citrix ICA Version 7.0

The ICA client connects to a windows Citrix server.

If I open up a document in word through the ICAClient with a bitmap picture
the memory requirements of XFree86 seem to increase dramatically, but the
wfica process stays the same.  If I close the file the memory returns to
normal.

ie before document:
 Memory
 1952 root   3612 S   XFree86 :1 -depth 16

after document:
  Memory
 1952 root   4836 S   XFree86 :1

if I open up 12 documents the machine runs out of memory and closes down the
X server.  However, if I re-establish the connection to the server, which
restores the 5 documents, I can open up another 5 before the client runs out
of memory again, and so on and so it.

It only seems to be with certain documents as others seem to open up fine,
the ones that seem effected are ones with a scanned in signature which I
suspect is a BMP image embedded in the document.

I've tried limiting the XFree86 server by using the following switches but
it doesn't make any difference:

XFree86 :1 -depth 16 -ld 4096 -ls 1024

The client is 4.3.0.1, kernel version 2.4.20, ICA Client Version 7.0
Server is Metraframe XP Version 1, Features release 3, Service Pack 3

Ok, I'm stumped any help would be great.

Cheers

Miles


TS 1.0 RC2
When I playing Movie online the TS shutdown  give the
message:
syslog.err klogd:Out of memory:killed process 678(3)

What's wrong with TS?

By the way,thanks Miles Roper.
The TS sound problem has benn fixed.

thanks.
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Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Vojkovich
  It really doesn't sound like this is a server problem, rather
the client is allocating BIG pixmaps or something like that.  You
can verify that by running restest:

http://www.xfree86.org/~mvojkovi/restest.c

 Be careful!  If you run that app you'll want to run it by redirecting
the output to a file restest  outfile because it grabs the server
and can introduce a deadlock if the terminal is printing the output
while restest is running.  Restest prints out the number of bytes
worth of pixmap memory held on behalf of each client.  Restest needs
XFree86 4.3 or newer to run.


Mark.


On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 I'm curious how you got it to work too :o)
 
 Yep, that's the Xfree memory problem, this has been mentioned before on
 mailing list.  no idea why this occurs.  X is basically eating up all the
 memory and then crashing when it runs out.  No known solution as yet, I've
 posted to the X mailing list, no answer :o(  This one bug I would really
 like to get sorted but don't have any solutions, I've spent several hours
 searching on net and trolling through mailing lists, any help from anyone
 would be much appreciated.
 
 where you using ICA, rdesktop or something else when playing the movie?
 
 I've attached the orginally email I got no reply to below...
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm having a really weird XFree86 problem.  I'm using XFree 4.3 and running
 on it Citrix ICA Version 7.0
 
 The ICA client connects to a windows Citrix server.
 
 If I open up a document in word through the ICAClient with a bitmap picture
 the memory requirements of XFree86 seem to increase dramatically, but the
 wfica process stays the same.  If I close the file the memory returns to
 normal.
 
 ie before document:
  Memory
  1952 root   3612 S   XFree86 :1 -depth 16
 
 after document:
   Memory
  1952 root   4836 S   XFree86 :1
 
 if I open up 12 documents the machine runs out of memory and closes down the
 X server.  However, if I re-establish the connection to the server, which
 restores the 5 documents, I can open up another 5 before the client runs out
 of memory again, and so on and so it.
 
 It only seems to be with certain documents as others seem to open up fine,
 the ones that seem effected are ones with a scanned in signature which I
 suspect is a BMP image embedded in the document.
 
 I've tried limiting the XFree86 server by using the following switches but
 it doesn't make any difference:
 
 XFree86 :1 -depth 16 -ld 4096 -ls 1024
 
 The client is 4.3.0.1, kernel version 2.4.20, ICA Client Version 7.0
 Server is Metraframe XP Version 1, Features release 3, Service Pack 3
 
 Ok, I'm stumped any help would be great.
 
 Cheers
 
 Miles
 
 
 TS 1.0 RC2
 When I playing Movie online the TS shutdown  give the
 message:
 syslog.err klogd:Out of memory:killed process 678(3)
 
 What's wrong with TS?
 
 By the way,thanks Miles Roper.
 The TS sound problem has benn fixed.
 
 thanks.
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RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-02 Thread Miles Roper
Hi Mark,

Tried running this and I get the below

restest  log
sh: Syntax error bad fd number

restest  log
cating the log file XResQueryExtension failed

restest
XResQueryExtension failed

have compiled and included the libXRes.so.1.0 in lib on the machine I'm
running it on, its linked to libXRes.so.1 and libXRes.so

I haven't replaced XFree86 with the new one I compiled including the #define
SharedLibXRes   YES, I just copied the library into lib

have built x with

#define BuildDocs NO
#define BuildDebug NO

#define CcCmd gcc -B/mnt/hdc/thinstation_src/glibc-2.1.3/lib
-Wl,-rpath-link,/mnt/hdc/thinstation_src/glibc-2.1.3/lib -Os -mcpu=i586
-march=i386

#define DefaultGcc2i386Opt  -Os -fno-strength-reduce

#define HasPam  YES

#define TouchScreen NO

#define XVirtualFramebufferServer   NO
#define XprtServer NO

#define BuildFonts  NO

#define HasCookieMaker NO

#define HasGlide2 NO
#define HasGlide3 NO
#define HasMMXSupport NO
#define Has3DNowSupport NO

#define JoystickSupport NO

#define SharedLibXRes   YES

-Original Message-
From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2003 12:48 p.m.
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: bingjie bingjie; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thinstation-Developer (E-mail); 'Mike Eriksen'
Subject: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory



  It really doesn't sound like this is a server problem, rather
the client is allocating BIG pixmaps or something like that.  You
can verify that by running restest:

http://www.xfree86.org/~mvojkovi/restest.c

 Be careful!  If you run that app you'll want to run it by redirecting
the output to a file restest  outfile because it grabs the server
and can introduce a deadlock if the terminal is printing the output
while restest is running.  Restest prints out the number of bytes
worth of pixmap memory held on behalf of each client.  Restest needs
XFree86 4.3 or newer to run.


Mark.


On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 I'm curious how you got it to work too :o)
 
 Yep, that's the Xfree memory problem, this has been mentioned before on
 mailing list.  no idea why this occurs.  X is basically eating up all the
 memory and then crashing when it runs out.  No known solution as yet, I've
 posted to the X mailing list, no answer :o(  This one bug I would really
 like to get sorted but don't have any solutions, I've spent several hours
 searching on net and trolling through mailing lists, any help from anyone
 would be much appreciated.
 
 where you using ICA, rdesktop or something else when playing the movie?
 
 I've attached the orginally email I got no reply to below...
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm having a really weird XFree86 problem.  I'm using XFree 4.3 and
running
 on it Citrix ICA Version 7.0
 
 The ICA client connects to a windows Citrix server.
 
 If I open up a document in word through the ICAClient with a bitmap
picture
 the memory requirements of XFree86 seem to increase dramatically, but the
 wfica process stays the same.  If I close the file the memory returns to
 normal.
 
 ie before document:
  Memory
  1952 root   3612 S   XFree86 :1 -depth 16
 
 after document:
   Memory
  1952 root   4836 S   XFree86 :1
 
 if I open up 12 documents the machine runs out of memory and closes down
the
 X server.  However, if I re-establish the connection to the server, which
 restores the 5 documents, I can open up another 5 before the client runs
out
 of memory again, and so on and so it.
 
 It only seems to be with certain documents as others seem to open up fine,
 the ones that seem effected are ones with a scanned in signature which I
 suspect is a BMP image embedded in the document.
 
 I've tried limiting the XFree86 server by using the following switches but
 it doesn't make any difference:
 
 XFree86 :1 -depth 16 -ld 4096 -ls 1024
 
 The client is 4.3.0.1, kernel version 2.4.20, ICA Client Version 7.0
 Server is Metraframe XP Version 1, Features release 3, Service Pack 3
 
 Ok, I'm stumped any help would be great.
 
 Cheers
 
 Miles
 
 
 TS 1.0 RC2
 When I playing Movie online the TS shutdown  give the
 message:
 syslog.err klogd:Out of memory:killed process 678(3)
 
 What's wrong with TS?
 
 By the way,thanks Miles Roper.
 The TS sound problem has benn fixed.
 
 thanks.
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