Re: [XFree86] Unable to set vertical refresh rate correctly

2003-02-10 Thread Mark Vojkovich
   Try a gtf-based modeline generator like gtf in the XFree86 4.3
prerelease snapshots.  Trying that, I get:

  # 1152x864 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 91.50 kHz; pclk: 143.47 MHz
  Modeline 1152x864_100.00  143.47  1152 1232 1360 1568  864 865 868 915  -HSync 
+Vsync



Mark. 

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Eric Mangold wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to setup Xfree86 4.2.1 for use with my Elements 9D monitor and a 
 GeForce2MX 200 graphics card. It is currently working fine with the nvidia 
 driver.
 
 The problem is that X is setting my monitor to 75Hz at 1152x864. The 
 monitor is capable of 100Hz at that resolution, and that's what I'm running 
   at under Windows.  I've tried running X -configure but that doesn't do 
 anything special with regard to my monitor.  I've also played with 
 xvidtune, secifically adjusting the width and height in order to raise the 
 refresh rate a bit.  I havn't been able to make it operate above ~84Hz 
 while still being able to compensate with the physical monitor controls. In 
 other words, anything higher and I can no longer keep the picture at the 
 right physical dimensions.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 -Eric Mangold
 
 My XF86Config-4 file is shown below:
 

Section Monitor
 IdentifierGeneric Monitor
 HorizSync30-95
 VertRefresh50-150
 OptionDPMS
# This will get me to 84Hz, though I'll be damned if it doesn't add a
bit of distortion
#Modeline1152x864108.00   1152 1216 1344 1428864  865
868  900 +hsync +vsync

EndSection

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Re: [XFree86] Unable to set vertical refresh rate correctly

2003-02-08 Thread Eric Mangold
I still havn't found any way to set my fresh rate to 100hz.  I've been
searching for documentation on the subject for a while now, and thus far
nothing has helped.

The only configuration document that I have found (besides random
ramblings on google) is the Debian XF86Config-4 man page.  It's helpful
for various things, but not for my specific problem.  Also, there doesn't
appear to be any official config file documentation for 4.2.1.

Again, my vid card is a geforce2mx, nvidia driver, on an Elements 9D
monitor.

Does anyone know how to force X to set a certain fresh rate?

Thanks,
Eric Mangold

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Re: [XFree86] Unable to set vertical refresh rate correctly

2003-02-08 Thread Don
 I still havn't found any way to set my fresh rate to 100hz.  I've been
 searching for documentation on the subject for a while now, and thus far
 nothing has helped.

 The only configuration document that I have found (besides random
 ramblings on google) is the Debian XF86Config-4 man page.  It's helpful
 for various things, but not for my specific problem.  Also, there doesn't
 appear to be any official config file documentation for 4.2.1.

 Again, my vid card is a geforce2mx, nvidia driver, on an Elements 9D
 monitor.

 Does anyone know how to force X to set a certain fresh rate?
There are several ways to force a vertical refresh rate.

First, if you are only running one resolution, specify:
VertRefresh 95-100

In your monitor section in your config file to specify a vertical refresh
of between 95 and 100HZ. This should be sufficient by itself.

You can also specify modelines with the correct pixel clock. You would
need to google for one of the mode line generators and use it to generate
a modeline for your monitor with the correct horizontal, vertical and
pixel clocks.

Frankly, setting a refresh rate of 100 is useless. I have extremely
sensitive eyes and I can not notice a refresh above 82Hz or so.

Second, a high refresh rate reduces the clarity of the image on your
screen. Problems such as ghosting appear. Poor quality cables, long
cables, high resolution or a low quality monitor make the problem worse.

Your refresh rate should be a few Hz higher than the highest refresh rate
at which you stop noticing flicker. If you can still see a flicker at 75Hz
then run your monitor at 80 or 85.

My ViewSonic P815 was capable of 120Hz at 1600x1200 (I believe. Been a
long time since I used a CRT). I never ran it above 85Hz because it simply
wasn't necessary.

If you want a 100% rock solid image, then get an LCD.

-Don
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Re: [XFree86] Unable to set vertical refresh rate correctly

2003-02-08 Thread Jesse Hutton
Have you tried the XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO?

Jesse

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Eric Mangold wrote:

 I still havn't found any way to set my fresh rate to 100hz.  I've been
 searching for documentation on the subject for a while now, and thus far
 nothing has helped.

 The only configuration document that I have found (besides random
 ramblings on google) is the Debian XF86Config-4 man page.  It's helpful
 for various things, but not for my specific problem.  Also, there doesn't
 appear to be any official config file documentation for 4.2.1.

 Again, my vid card is a geforce2mx, nvidia driver, on an Elements 9D
 monitor.

 Does anyone know how to force X to set a certain fresh rate?

 Thanks,
 Eric Mangold

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Re: [XFree86] Unable to set vertical refresh rate correctly

2003-02-08 Thread Eric Mangold
Don wrote:


First, if you are only running one resolution, specify:
VertRefresh	95-100


Good idea, I'll give it a try.



In your monitor section in your config file to specify a vertical refresh
of between 95 and 100HZ. This should be sufficient by itself.

You can also specify modelines with the correct pixel clock. You would
need to google for one of the mode line generators and use it to generate
a modeline for your monitor with the correct horizontal, vertical and
pixel clocks.


...



Frankly, setting a refresh rate of 100 is useless. I have extremely
sensitive eyes and I can not notice a refresh above 82Hz or so.


I have good eye-sight and there is a noticeable difference between 85hz and 
100.  My monitor isn't that great though, so perhaps it would be less 
noticeable with a higher-quality display.


Second, a high refresh rate reduces the clarity of the image on your
screen. Problems such as ghosting appear. Poor quality cables, long
cables, high resolution or a low quality monitor make the problem worse.

Your refresh rate should be a few Hz higher than the highest refresh rate
at which you stop noticing flicker. If you can still see a flicker at 75Hz
then run your monitor at 80 or 85.

My ViewSonic P815 was capable of 120Hz at 1600x1200 (I believe. Been a
long time since I used a CRT). I never ran it above 85Hz because it simply
wasn't necessary.

If you want a 100% rock solid image, then get an LCD.


Thanks for the info!

-Eric M

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[XFree86] Unable to set vertical refresh rate correctly

2003-02-07 Thread Eric Mangold
Hi,

I'm trying to setup Xfree86 4.2.1 for use with my Elements 9D monitor and a 
GeForce2MX 200 graphics card. It is currently working fine with the nvidia 
driver.

The problem is that X is setting my monitor to 75Hz at 1152x864. The 
monitor is capable of 100Hz at that resolution, and that's what I'm running 
 at under Windows.  I've tried running X -configure but that doesn't do 
anything special with regard to my monitor.  I've also played with 
xvidtune, secifically adjusting the width and height in order to raise the 
refresh rate a bit.  I havn't been able to make it operate above ~84Hz 
while still being able to compensate with the physical monitor controls. In 
other words, anything higher and I can no longer keep the picture at the 
right physical dimensions.

Thanks in advance,
-Eric Mangold

My XF86Config-4 file is shown below:

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Re: [XFree86] Unable to set vertical refresh rate correctly

2003-02-07 Thread Eric Mangold
Sorry, I sent the previous mail when I meant to save a draft.  Please
let me know if any additional information is required.

Thanks,
Eric Mangold

The XF86Config-4 really follows:

Section Files
 FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID
 FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

Section Module
 Loadbitmap
 Loaddbe
 Loadddc
 Loadextmod
 Loadfreetype
 Loadglx
 Loadint10
 Loadrecord
 Loadxtrap
 Loadspeedo
 Loadtype1
 Loadvbe
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 IdentifierGeneric Keyboard
 Driverkeyboard
 OptionCoreKeyboard
 OptionXkbRulesxfree86
 OptionXkbModelpc104
 OptionXkbLayoutus
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 IdentifierConfigured Mouse
 Drivermouse
 OptionCorePointer
 OptionDevice/dev/input/mice
 OptionProtocolImPS/2
 OptionZAxisMapping4 5
EndSection

Section Device
 IdentifierGeneric Video Card
 Drivernvidia
EndSection

Section Monitor
 IdentifierGeneric Monitor
 HorizSync30-95
 VertRefresh50-150
 OptionDPMS
# This will get me to 84Hz, though I'll be damned if it doesn't add a
bit of distortion
#Modeline1152x864108.00   1152 1216 1344 1428864  865
868  900 +hsync +vsync

EndSection

Section Screen
 IdentifierDefault Screen
 DeviceGeneric Video Card
 MonitorGeneric Monitor
 DefaultDepth16
 SubSection Display
 Depth1
 Modes1152x864 800x600 640x480
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Depth4
 Modes1152x864 800x600 640x480
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Depth8
 Modes1152x864 800x600 640x480
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Depth15
 Modes1152x864 800x600 640x480
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Depth16
 Modes1152x864 800x600 640x480
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
 Depth24
 Modes1152x864 800x600 640x480
 EndSubSection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
 IdentifierDefault Layout
 ScreenDefault Screen
 InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard
 InputDeviceConfigured Mouse
EndSection




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