Re: [XFree86] XFree (4.3.0) & 32b graphics ...

2003-10-31 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Mark Vojkovich wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:


Mark Vojkovich wrote:

  32 and 24 bpp have the same color resolution (only 24 bits).
If what you are seeing is banding, it's probably a driver issue.
Laptop panels typically only have 18 bits of color resolution
and this becomes visible if the graphics hardware isn't dithering
from 24 => 18 bits.  At least in the case of the "nv" driver for
NVIDIA chips, there is an Option "FPDither" to turn that on.  I
don't know if other drivers support such options.
Speaking of the "option": I mean it's ok that such an option exists (for 
what reason ever), but is there any good reason for not enabling 
dithering by default if the panel is detected as being of 18bit type and 
the colordepth is 24?



   Detect it how?  There's nothing in the EDID that I'm aware of.
Ah. If it can't be detected, that _is_ in fact a good reason. (I just 
wondered, because sis based laptops provide this info in a scratch 
register set by the BIOS; for TMDS panels RGB24 is assumed, for LVDS 
panels this info is hardcoded into the system BIOS)

Thomas

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Re: [XFree86] XFree (4.3.0) & 32b graphics ...

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:

> Mark Vojkovich wrote:
> >32 and 24 bpp have the same color resolution (only 24 bits).
> > If what you are seeing is banding, it's probably a driver issue.
> > Laptop panels typically only have 18 bits of color resolution
> > and this becomes visible if the graphics hardware isn't dithering
> > from 24 => 18 bits.  At least in the case of the "nv" driver for
> > NVIDIA chips, there is an Option "FPDither" to turn that on.  I
> > don't know if other drivers support such options.
> 
> Speaking of the "option": I mean it's ok that such an option exists (for 
> what reason ever), but is there any good reason for not enabling 
> dithering by default if the panel is detected as being of 18bit type and 
> the colordepth is 24?
> 

   Detect it how?  There's nothing in the EDID that I'm aware of.


Mark.

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Re: [XFree86] XFree (4.3.0) & 32b graphics ...

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Mark Vojkovich wrote:
   32 and 24 bpp have the same color resolution (only 24 bits).
If what you are seeing is banding, it's probably a driver issue.
Laptop panels typically only have 18 bits of color resolution
and this becomes visible if the graphics hardware isn't dithering
from 24 => 18 bits.  At least in the case of the "nv" driver for
NVIDIA chips, there is an Option "FPDither" to turn that on.  I
don't know if other drivers support such options.
Speaking of the "option": I mean it's ok that such an option exists (for 
what reason ever), but is there any good reason for not enabling 
dithering by default if the panel is detected as being of 18bit type and 
the colordepth is 24?

Thomas

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Re: [XFree86] XFree (4.3.0) & 32b graphics ...

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Vojkovich
   32 and 24 bpp have the same color resolution (only 24 bits).
If what you are seeing is banding, it's probably a driver issue.
Laptop panels typically only have 18 bits of color resolution
and this becomes visible if the graphics hardware isn't dithering
from 24 => 18 bits.  At least in the case of the "nv" driver for
NVIDIA chips, there is an Option "FPDither" to turn that on.  I
don't know if other drivers support such options.


Mark.

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Romain MULLER wrote:

> I'm quite a noob on Linux (and so with XFree86), and I'm asking myself if it 
> is possible to set color depth up to 32bpp or not ... In fact, all my JPEG 
> pictures that look pretty good on Windows (32b color depth) are ugly under 
> Linux 24b color depth ... And as far as I know, the 24b color depth of my 
> XFree may be in cause ... Any idea ? Maybe is it possible to force 32b color 
> depth ?
> 
> PS : I use a Mandrake 9.1 on a Compaq Presario 736 (S3 twister 16/32MB shared 
> memory, 256MB RAM).
> 
> Tidus, Looking forward your answer !!!
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OT: 30bpp colour, parhelia (was Re: [XFree86] XFree (4.3.0) & 32b graphics ...)

2003-10-30 Thread William Gallafent
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Giuliano Pochini wrote:

> AFAIK there are not graphic cards with colour depth >24.

I belive some SGI machines have graphics hardware supporting
10-10-10-2 R-G-B-A in 32 bits rather than the usual 8-8-8-8. The
Matrox Parhelia series also has this capability. I'm not sure if
it's possible to send this sort of data down a DVI-D link
though.

Also, judging from the forums, support for parhelia on Linux
isn't great. No 3D except in the experimental drivers, and no
support for SMP with 3D. I would like to buy a parhelia card
because they have two DVI outputs on a reasonably priced card -
but the drivers are simply far from good enough.

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Re: [XFree86] XFree (4.3.0) & 32b graphics ...

2003-10-30 Thread Giuliano Pochini
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Romain MULLER wrote:

> I'm quite a noob on Linux (and so with XFree86), and I'm asking myself if it
> is possible to set color depth up to 32bpp or not

AFAIK there are not graphic cards with colour depth >24.

> ... In fact, all my JPEG  pictures that look pretty good on Windows
> (32b color depth) are ugly under Linux 24b color depth

Wrong gamma correction ?  (man xgamma)

> ... And as far as I know, the 24b color depth of my XFree may be in cause

No, it isn't.

> ... Any idea ? Maybe is it possible to force 32b color depth ?

You can set the frame buffer at 32bpp, but the card use only the
first 24 to represent colours.

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