Re: [xmail] XMail exits with no reason . . .

2010-01-19 Thread Spyros Tsiolis

Hi Davide,

  Hello again people,
  
  OK, I've built XMail v1.26 against a CentOS 5.4 Box (i386).
  
  When I start xmail with the help of the xmail script
  (/etc/init.d/xmail start), the daemon plays on the back.
  If I telnet to either port 25 or 6017, everything is fine.
  Once, I telnet to port 110, it refuses connection and the daemon gets 
  stopped.
 
 Did you try to run in debug mode?
  
 1) Stop XMail
 
 2) Run
 
   # /$PATH_TO_XMAIL/XMail --debug -Md ...
 
Where '#' mean from root and '...' means the remaining command line 
parameters you usually pass to it


Thanks for that, I'll have to document it. I didn't know there was a debug mode.


 3) Try again the connection to port 110
 
 
 If that does not spit out anything interesting, then run:
 
 # gdb --args /$PATH_TO_XMAIL/XMail --debug -Md ...
  r
 
 Where 'r' mean type 'r' and ENTER inside GDB.
 Then try again the 110 connection.


Thank you I will do.


  I haven't done anything different from what I've normally done the last two 
  hundred
  times, so I am a bit buffled.
 
 You've configured XMail about hundred times, and yet you don't know the 
 command lines switches? :)


:-(   Guilty as charged . . .


  The only difference is the OS. Used to be slackware for many years. 
  However, now
  it's been _at least_ four to five times that I installed XMail on CentOS 
  without any
  issues (except the one I writing about now).
  
  Also another cryptic error message on Horde (http://www.horde.org/horde).
  This time for the SMTP daemon.
  If I try to send an e-mail from within horde (used to work believe me it's 
  got
  nothing to do with horde), the system pops-up with the following msg :
  
  
  There was an error sending your message: LOGIN authentication failure 
  [SMTP: STARTTLS failed (code: 220, response:
  Ready to start TLS)]
  
 
 Probably Horder is fine, but you misconfigured SSL. The 220 Ready to start 
 TLS
 is an OK message, and likely XMail refuses to talk to Horde (or viceversa) 
 because of SSL misconfigurations.


Thank you for everything Davide.
I am doing (yet another) re-installation of the whole system. I'll let you know 
what
happens.


 - Davide


Thanks again,

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[xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Phillip R. Shaw
I am receiving emails from yahoo groups and am running into a problem.

A few (very few) of the emails have a header line them of X-YMail-OSG.
This line is extremely long and it appears that xmail is incorrectly
breaking it up into multiple lines. It appears that before xmail there
is a message with a very long line, and after there is a message with
extra line breaks and blank lines. The blank lines causes the next step
in the chain to read the email incorrectly.

My mail flow is xmail receiving to do spam filtering, passed to another
xmail server for delivery, passed to exchange or kept for pop pickup. I
make copies of the emails in filters.out.tab in the first xmail and then
make a copy in the second xmail in filters.in.tab. I can the really long
line in the first copy but the second copy has the line messed up.

Is this a known problem in xmail (1.25) and do newer versions handle it
better? 
Any suggestions on how to handle these emails? Last resort is a filter
to remove (or correctly line break) these lines before they are
processed by xmail.

I know the line is not rfc correct, but I'm not sure I can get yahoo to
filter them out.

Does anyone know who puts this header in email? What is it for?


Thanks
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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread CLEMENT Francis
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[mailto:xmail-boun...@xmailserver.org]de la part de Phillip R. Shaw
Envoyé : mardi 19 janvier 2010 16:43
À : xmail@xmailserver.org
Objet : [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers


I am receiving emails from yahoo groups and am running into a problem.

A few (very few) of the emails have a header line them of X-YMail-OSG.
This line is extremely long and it appears that xmail is incorrectly
breaking it up into multiple lines. It appears that before xmail there
is a message with a very long line, and after there is a message with
extra line breaks and blank lines. The blank lines causes the next step
in the chain to read the email incorrectly.

My mail flow is xmail receiving to do spam filtering, passed to another
xmail server for delivery, passed to exchange or kept for pop pickup. I
make copies of the emails in filters.out.tab in the first 
xmail and then
make a copy in the second xmail in filters.in.tab. I can the 
really long
line in the first copy but the second copy has the line messed up.

Is this a known problem in xmail (1.25) and do newer versions handle it
better? 
Any suggestions on how to handle these emails? Last resort is a filter
to remove (or correctly line break) these lines before they are
processed by xmail.

I know the line is not rfc correct, but I'm not sure I can get yahoo to
filter them out.

Does anyone know who puts this header in email? What is it for?


Thanks
Phillip Shaw



Yahoo send another header DomainKey-Signature that is a very very long one
line header, definitively much longer than the X-YMail-OSG
Does this one incorrectly break too ?

(no sample yahoo mail in my inbox, sorry)

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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Phillip R. Shaw
Title: Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers



Not that I see, but it could be.
Actually on the broken message I am looking at the DomainKey-Signature looks like it is broken up correctly.. But the X-YMail-OSG is about 1400 chars long, with no breaks.

Actually looking at it, the X-YMail-OSG name is included in the DKIM-Signature header line, so just removing the line probably won't work.

Phillip



From: CLEMENT FrancisSent: Tue 1/19/2010 10:20 AMTo: XMail Users Mailing ListSubject: Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

-Message d'origine-De : xmail-boun...@xmailserver.org[mailto:xmail-boun...@xmailserver.org]De la part de Phillip R. ShawEnvoyé : mardi 19 janvier 2010 16:43À : xmail@xmailserver.orgObjet : [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headersI am receiving emails from yahoo groups and am running into a problem.A few (very few) of the emails have a header line them of X-YMail-OSG.This line is extremely long and it appears that xmail is incorrectlybreaking it up into multiple lines. It appears that before xmail thereis a message with a very long line, and after there is a message withextra line breaks and blank lines. The blank lines causes the next stepin the chain to read the email incorrectly.My mail flow is xmail receiving to do spam filtering, passed to anotherxmail server for delivery, passed to exchange or kept for pop pickup. Imake copies of the emails in filters.out.tab in the firstxmail and thenmake a copy in the second xmail in filters.in.tab. I can thereally longline in the first copy but the second copy has the line messed up.Is this a known problem in xmail (1.25) and do newer versions handle itbetter?Any suggestions on how to handle these emails? Last resort is a filterto remove (or correctly line break) these lines before they areprocessed by xmail.I know the line is not rfc correct, but I'm not sure I can get yahoo tofilter them out.Does anyone know who puts this header in email? What is it for?ThanksPhillip ShawYahoo send another header DomainKey-Signature that is a very very long oneline header, definitively much longer than the X-YMail-OSGDoes this one incorrectly break too ?(no sample yahoo mail in my inbox, sorry)Francis___xmail mailing listxmail@xmailserver.orghttp://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread CLEMENT Francis

In any cases, rfc2822 said that email lines should be no more than 998
characters (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-2.1.1) including
headers lines. (section 2.2.3) 

so Yahoo is sending X-YMail-OSG headers that break the rfc
I think where is nothing to do except convince Yahoo to correct they systems
:/

Francis


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la part de Phillip R. Shaw
Envoyé : mardi 19 janvier 2010 17:50
À : XMail Users Mailing List
Objet : Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers


Not that I see, but it could be.
Actually on the broken message I am looking at the DomainKey-Signature looks
like it is broken up correctly.. But the X-YMail-OSG is about 1400 chars
long, with no breaks.

Actually looking at it, the X-YMail-OSG name is included in the
DKIM-Signature header line, so just removing the line probably won't work.

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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, CLEMENT Francis wrote:

 
 In any cases, rfc2822 said that email lines should be no more than 998
 characters (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-2.1.1) including
 headers lines. (section 2.2.3) 
 
 so Yahoo is sending X-YMail-OSG headers that break the rfc
 I think where is nothing to do except convince Yahoo to correct they systems
 :/

Unfortunately XMail adds its own bug too. According to RFC2821, section 4.5.3.1
if you do not handle lines over a certain length, you are supposed to give 
proper error.
XMail at the moment accepts those, but mishandles them. XMail 1.27-pre11 I 
will be releasing now should fix that problem ...



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[xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
Here are the links:

http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.tar.gz
http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.win32bin.zip

The ChangeLog is inside the archives, as usual. This release fixes a 
lng lines mishandling that was triggered by Yahoo! header composer.



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Edinilson - ATINET
Davide, do Windows users need to download some dll somewhere?
I´m asking because, trying to run this version, a window popup is opened 
telling that a dll is missing.

Thanks

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To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11


Here are the links:

http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.tar.gz
http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.win32bin.zip

The ChangeLog is inside the archives, as usual. This release fixes a
lng lines mishandling that was triggered by Yahoo! header composer.



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread fred
You should at least specify the name of the DLL ;)

I guess this is OpenSSL, you should install the latest version.


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Sent: 19 janvier 2010 14:00
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Subject: Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11
Importance: High

Davide, do Windows users need to download some dll somewhere?
I´m asking because, trying to run this version, a window popup is opened
telling that a dll is missing.

Thanks

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To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11


Here are the links:

http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.tar.gz
http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.win32bin.zip

The ChangeLog is inside the archives, as usual. This release fixes a
lng lines mishandling that was triggered by Yahoo! header composer.



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread fred
Davided,

Do you have an idea of when 1.27 is going to be released? I am asking
because since pre1 there are lots of fixes and I am thinking of updating my
servers soon, I will wait if you are planning to release it soon.

Thanks

-fred

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From: Davide Libenzi davi...@xmailserver.org
To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11


Here are the links:

http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.tar.gz
http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.win32bin.zip

The ChangeLog is inside the archives, as usual. This release fixes a
lng lines mishandling that was triggered by Yahoo! header composer.



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Edinilson - ATINET
MSVCR90.dll

Regards

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11


You should at least specify the name of the DLL ;)

I guess this is OpenSSL, you should install the latest version.


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On Behalf Of Edinilson - ATINET
Sent: 19 janvier 2010 14:00
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Subject: Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11
Importance: High

Davide, do Windows users need to download some dll somewhere?
I´m asking because, trying to run this version, a window popup is opened
telling that a dll is missing.

Thanks

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From: Davide Libenzi davi...@xmailserver.org
To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11


Here are the links:

http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.tar.gz
http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre11.win32bin.zip

The ChangeLog is inside the archives, as usual. This release fixes a
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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Edinilson - ATINET wrote:

 MSVCR90.dll

Hmmm, probably this?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AB99342F-5D1A-413D-8319-81DA479AB0D7displaylang=en



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, fred wrote:

 Davided,
 
 Do you have an idea of when 1.27 is going to be released? I am asking
 because since pre1 there are lots of fixes and I am thinking of updating my
 servers soon, I will wait if you are planning to release it soon.

Let's give pre11 till the end of this week. Will make 1.27 this weekend if 
nothing shows up ...



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Edinilson - ATINET
..NET 3.5 will not run in Windows 2000 Server...

What can we, Windows 2000 users, do ?

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11


On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Edinilson - ATINET wrote:

 MSVCR90.dll

Hmmm, probably this?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AB99342F-5D1A-413D-8319-81DA479AB0D7displaylang=en



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Edinilson - ATINET wrote:

 ..NET 3.5 will not run in Windows 2000 Server...
 
 What can we, Windows 2000 users, do ?

Will build using VC 8 ...



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Re: [xmail] XMail 1.27-pre11

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Davide Libenzi wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Edinilson - ATINET wrote:
 
  ..NET 3.5 will not run in Windows 2000 Server...
  
  What can we, Windows 2000 users, do ?
 
 Will build using VC 8 ...

Which will use such DLL too. MSVC 2005 does not, but I don't have that 
anymore.
But, it seems you can install .NET Framework 3.5 on Win2K:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=E3821449-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385displaylang=en

Supported Operating Systems:
 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4;
Windows CE .NET; 
Windows Mobile 2003 SE software for Pocket PC;
Windows Mobile 5.0;
Windows Mobile 6;
Windows Vista;
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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Phillip R. Shaw
I installed the pre11 to see how that works.
I did get one bad email through, but it may have been sitting in the
pipeline (spool file or something). Since you are rejecting the emails
with lines too long now I am assuming that the email didn't arrive new.

How/what would I see in the logs that would show if the emails are being
rejected by xmail?

Thanks
Phillip

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, CLEMENT Francis wrote:

 
 In any cases, rfc2822 said that email lines should be no more than 998
 characters (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-2.1.1)
including
 headers lines. (section 2.2.3) 
 
 so Yahoo is sending X-YMail-OSG headers that break the rfc
 I think where is nothing to do except convince Yahoo to correct they
systems
 :/

Unfortunately XMail adds its own bug too. According to RFC2821, section
4.5.3.1
if you do not handle lines over a certain length, you are supposed to
give 
proper error.
XMail at the moment accepts those, but mishandles them. XMail 1.27-pre11
I 
will be releasing now should fix that problem ...



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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Phillip R. Shaw
Thinking about how to send myself an email with a line over a thousand
chars long. Hope your are not thinking of telnet and counting that many
chars.

I'm on windows with the basic windows telnet client. Would redirecting
an input file with the commands to telnet work? Or would that confuse
xmail when it wasn't waiting for the responses?

What are the basic commands for sending an email? I can try that. That
would let me put the long line in a file. I have the captured emails
that I got with the filters if they would work anywhere in the testing.

And checking, it appears that I don't have telnet on Vista but do on
Windows2003. I didn't realize they had dropped it (or I didn't pick all
the options when I installed).

Phillip


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Subject: Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Phillip R. Shaw wrote:

 I installed the pre11 to see how that works.
 I did get one bad email through, but it may have been sitting in the
 pipeline (spool file or something). Since you are rejecting the emails
 with lines too long now I am assuming that the email didn't arrive
new.
 
 How/what would I see in the logs that would show if the emails are
being
 rejected by xmail?

No, XMail is not rejecting them.
Can you try to send an email to yourself with long Yahoo! headers?



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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Phillip R. Shaw
Thinking about this a little more.
I don't think the problem is xmail receiving the lines that are too
long, I think it might be in xmail sending out the lines that are too
long.

Back to my email flow:
Xmail1 receives an email with the long line. My filter sees it is from
yahoo so it copies the mail file. The copy has a line that is about 1400
chars long.
XMail1 sends the message to XMail2 due to domain forwarding.
XMail2 receives an email with from address containing yahoo so it copies
the mail file. The copy has the long line broken with a CR in the middle
of it.

This is what happened with xmail 1.25, and since the first xmail server
wrote the mail file out with the long line I assume it probably received
it ok. But the second xmail server in the line is writing out a bad
line, so I assume it got a bad line.

I haven't looked at the xmail source to see if the sending of a long
line is the problem, just a theory at this point.

Couple comments on this.
It is NOT every message that gets it. Some days there are only one or
two, some days there are a dozen. This is out of 100 or so emails from
yahoo a day. 
I just started paying attention to it last November, I think it started
about mid month then. None of the emails have been important (it's yahoo
groups) so I haven't made it a priority.
XMail1 is in the DMZ while XMail2 is on my internal network. The mail is
just passing through a home router (SMC) which should not be doing
anything to the mail. (Should not, but maybe someone knows something
different about them).
And finally, I think the line is about 1400 chars without any white
space in it. I will try to paste it in here but don't know what outlook
is going to do with it. One big sold mess of garbage as far as I can
tell.

X-YMail-OSG:
4aFdVu0VM1l2Zxivn_LobWTcb1JNOyDLZE3BT3ph3bzDZBswapGQZg9e3XVHs3RF4rcbNLfE
IjEzWUl6RLGV2T9Wqlg6T1o.lRrfNUWFLfIxTYH3YUg5oBp8nfPSRxNL3pjMAEGQ8zS0ZeV.
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From: xmail-boun...@xmailserver.org
[mailto:xmail-boun...@xmailserver.org] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Phillip R. Shaw wrote:

 Thinking about how to send myself an email with a line over a thousand
 chars long. Hope your are not thinking of telnet and counting that
many
 chars.
 
 I'm on windows with the basic windows telnet client. Would redirecting
 an input file with the commands to telnet work? Or would that confuse
 xmail when it wasn't waiting for the responses?
 
 What are the basic commands for sending an email? I can try that. That
 would let me put the long line in a file. I have the captured emails
 that I got with the filters if they would work anywhere in the
testing.
 
 And checking, it appears that I don't have telnet on Vista but do on
 Windows2003. I didn't realize they had dropped it (or I didn't pick
all
 the options when I installed).

Just tried myself. No worky. Need to check better tomorrow. There must
be 
other places where lines are broken up ...


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[xmail] XMail 1.27-pre12

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
Here are the links:

http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre12.tar.gz
http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.27-pre12.win32bin.zip

The ChangeLog is inside the archives, as usual.
There was still a place where XMail was truncating long line, and 
that's fixed too.



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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Phillip R. Shaw wrote:

 Thinking about this a little more.
 I don't think the problem is xmail receiving the lines that are too
 long, I think it might be in xmail sending out the lines that are too
 long.

Nope, XMail just sends as whole file, during its SMTP client sessions, not 
line by line.


 Back to my email flow:
 Xmail1 receives an email with the long line. My filter sees it is from
 yahoo so it copies the mail file. The copy has a line that is about 1400
 chars long.

Not long enough. 1536+ characters was the trigger point.



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Re: [xmail] xmail 1.25 problem with a smtp headers

2010-01-19 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Davide Libenzi wrote:

 Not long enough. 1536+ characters was the trigger point.

This should speak volumes though, about the IQ of people tinkering with 
SMTP. There is a way to have very lng headers, w/out breaking the 
original spec:

X-Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot: aaa











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