[xmail] Re: Unable to mail to list

2006-03-15 Thread Davide Libenzi

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, David Lord wrote:

 Had a mail from Jorn Hass (jornh_at_staffmail.is.co.za) this morning
 as he's not been able to get mail into the list since Feb 22.

 All I can see is that there doesn't seem to be an NS for
 staffmail.is.co.za nor any A record although there is an MX pointing
 to maibox.is.co.za.

 Other possibility is that filters are dropping his mails which I
 believe are being accepted by the server.

 Any ideas?

I see a bunch of EFILTER with his email address. This is 98% likely 
triggered by the absence of any Received: headers in his message. AKA he's 
trying to contact @xmailserver.org directly, w/out going through any MTA.


- Davide


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[xmail] Re: Unable to mail to list

2006-03-15 Thread Rob Arends

There is something weird there,
I did a DIG for:

is.co.za ns
staffmail.is.co.za ns
staffmail.is.co.za mx

And found that there are NS for staffmail.is.co.za, but not when you ask for
NS records, I got them when asking for MX records.
Very odd, I'd suggest he can't mail the list because Davide has some
verification of Lame DNS configs.
It is quite likely that as staffmail is a subdomain, it has not been
correctly setup.

Rob :-)

dig @jupiter.is.co.za. is.co.za ns

;  DiG 9.2.3  @jupiter.is.co.za. is.co.za ns
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;is.co.za.  IN  NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  demeter.is.co.za.
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  titan.is.co.za.
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  hera.is.co.za.
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  jupiter.is.co.za.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
demeter.is.co.za.   86400   IN  A   196.26.5.8
titan.is.co.za. 86400   IN  A   196.33.171.36
hera.is.co.za.  86400   IN  A   168.210.248.3
jupiter.is.co.za.   86400   IN  A   196.4.160.3

;; Query time: 687 msec
;; SERVER: 196.4.160.3#53(jupiter.is.co.za.)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 16 11:35:58 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 173
 

dig @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za ns

;  DiG 9.2.3  @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za ns
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;staffmail.is.co.za.IN  NS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
is.co.za.   86400   IN  SOA ns1.is.co.za.
dns-admin.is.co.za
.. 2006031400 28800 7200 604800 86400

;; Query time: 625 msec
;; SERVER: 196.4.160.3#53(jupiter.is.co.za.)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 16 11:35:27 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 86


dig @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za mx

;  DiG 9.2.3  @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za mx
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 5

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;staffmail.is.co.za.IN  MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
staffmail.is.co.za. 86400   IN  MX  100 mailbox.is.co.za.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  jupiter.is.co.za.
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  demeter.is.co.za.
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  titan.is.co.za.
is.co.za.   86400   IN  NS  hera.is.co.za.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mailbox.is.co.za.   86400   IN  A   196.35.45.20
jupiter.is.co.za.   86400   IN  A   196.4.160.3
demeter.is.co.za.   86400   IN  A   196.26.5.8
titan.is.co.za. 86400   IN  A   196.33.171.36
hera.is.co.za.  86400   IN  A   168.210.248.3

;; Query time: 640 msec
;; SERVER: 196.4.160.3#53(jupiter.is.co.za.)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 16 11:35:07 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 223



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Lord
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 2:46 AM
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Cc: Jorn Hass
Subject: [xmail] Unable to mail to list

On 15 Mar 2006, at 15:06, Jorn Hass wrote:

Hi

Had a mail from Jorn Hass (jornh_at_staffmail.is.co.za) this morning as he's
not been able to get mail into the list since Feb 22. 

All I can see is that there doesn't seem to be an NS for staffmail.is.co.za
nor any A record although there is an MX pointing to maibox.is.co.za.

Other possibility is that filters are dropping his mails which I believe are
being accepted by the server.

Any ideas? 

 Hello David,
 
 Thanks for the reply. Everything worked fine up till the 22nd, and 
 nothing has changed on the DNS side. (I know, as my team manages the 
 is.co.za zonefile... :) All of my mails are accepted by the 
 xmailserver.org, but it seems as if they get discarded internally, 
 without any notification?
 
 If it was a SORBS blacklisting, I would see that on the logs, but it 
 doesn't show.
 
 As to the no A record, that is only used for legacy mailers, that do 
 not understand MX records, which I do not think is the issue here, as 
 it has always worked... We always ensure that all our mail servers 
 only accepts from valid domains, and I'm not seeing this issue 
 anywhere else that I send to, using our setups...
 
 I have a hunch that one of Davide's filters is being overzealous, and 
 dropping my e-mails. Maybe even Ecartis itself. Almost like I got 
 black-holed, yet I cannot see why.
 
 Can you possibly just pass my query on to Davide, for him to check 
 please?


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[xmail] Re: Unable to mail to list

2006-03-15 Thread Davide Libenzi

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Rob Arends wrote:


 There is something weird there,
 I did a DIG for:

 is.co.za ns
 staffmail.is.co.za ns
 staffmail.is.co.za mx

 And found that there are NS for staffmail.is.co.za, but not when you ask for
 NS records, I got them when asking for MX records.
 Very odd, I'd suggest he can't mail the list because Davide has some
 verification of Lame DNS configs.
 It is quite likely that as staffmail is a subdomain, it has not been
 correctly setup.

I've got EFILTER for his attempts, and my filters do not do DNS checks. 
But yeah, DNS is bogus:

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=staffmail.is.co.za



- Davide


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