Patch noise [Was: GIT Noise]

2009-02-06 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
2009/2/6 Maarten Maathuis:

 If you were really seeing a duplicate of a git commit list, then you
 would see a whole different picture. For you patches may just be
 noise, but that's not the case for everyone.

So ok then, what is the purpose of posting thousands of patches to xorg list?

Cheers,
Igor
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Re: Patch noise [Was: GIT Noise]

2009-02-06 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
2009/2/6 Maarten Maathuis:

 It gives people time to check, review and/or complain about patches.
 Now that the xorg-devel list was made, it will obviously move there.

 I certainly check patches that catch my eye (a small fraction of the
 total, i admit).

Does one not submit patches to the maintainer for the sub-project anymore?..


Igor :-)
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Re: GIT Noise

2009-02-06 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
2009/2/6 Dan Nicholson:

 Development = patches.

While development includes patches, development list is not a version
control system!

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Re: Patch noise [Was: GIT Noise]

2009-02-06 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
2009/2/6 William Tracy:
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Igor Mozolevsky i...@hybrid-lab.co.uk wrote:
 Does one not submit patches to the maintainer for the sub-project anymore?..

 That creates a single point of failure--you are now relying on that
 person and that person only to get your patch in. That also does not
 give any third parties who might be impacted by your patch a chance to
 comment.

 Now, if any of the sub-projects were large enough to warrant their own
 mailing lists (which does not seem to be the case) then sending
 patches to those lists would make sense.

So, since 1st Jan there's been, by my guestimate, around 2000 messages
on the xorg list... Are you seriously saying that that is a good way
of managing x.org development cycle and that nothing gets lost due to
the current SNR???


Igor :-)
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Re: Poll: Should Xorg change from using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to something harder for users to press by accident?

2008-09-23 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
2008/9/23 Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In Linux, Ctrl-Alt-Del reboots unconditionally only in console mode.  Only
 expert users use console mode.  When X is running, on all my Linux machines,
 Ctrl-Alt-Del brings up a shutdown-or-reboot? dialog instead.  The vast
 majority of Linux users run X.

That's the desktop environment asking you that, not X. If you really
have to, provide a zap hook so that the desktop environment can catch
it.

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Re: Poll: Should Xorg change from using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to something harder for users to press by accident?

2008-09-22 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
2008/9/23 Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Igor Mozolevsky igor at hybrid-lab.co.uk writes:

 just because users
 incompetently press the combination, doesn't mean it's a bad one.

 I respectfully disagree.  Accidental zaps often cause data loss.  Data loss is
 always unacceptable and Xorg should do whatever it takes to prevent it.

Pushing the reset button or pulling the cable from the wall also
causes data loss, but you don't see flip covers protecting the reset
buttons nor are the power cables welded into the wall at one end and
the unit at the other. Unfortunately, there's no cure for human
stupidity ;-)

Doesn't CTRL+ALT+DELETE reboot the machine unconditionally?

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