Re: [Brainstorm] LinkKit for Xorg
Le 10/01/2009 03:10, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade a écrit : Xorg (and to some extent XFree86) loadable modules aren't really of much use, as modules cannot be properly unloaded, there is no dependency information; a module doesn't list it's dependencies in any form, causing frequently one to need to load a lot more code/data then required. Hi Paulo, Why not implement that instead? Sounds like reviving LinkKit will bring more cruft rather than clean up the current code... What's your ulterior motives with LinkKit anyway? Just curious :) Cheers, Rémi ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: [Brainstorm] LinkKit for Xorg
Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 10/01/2009 03:10, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade a écrit : Xorg (and to some extent XFree86) loadable modules aren't really of much use, as modules cannot be properly unloaded, there is no dependency information; a module doesn't list it's dependencies in any form, causing frequently one to need to load a lot more code/data then required. Hi Paulo, Hi Rémi, Why not implement that instead? Sounds like reviving LinkKit will bring more cruft rather than clean up the current code... The amount of work for either should be similar, just that if you have a closed binary, it must have all symbols resolved. The cool thing about loadable modules would be to be able to switch/disable/enable input/video/etc modules on the fly, but this is not a reality, and requires restarting the X Server anyway... What's your ulterior motives with LinkKit anyway? Just curious :) None really, but maybe someone that worked on it is reading the lists and could also comment, or maybe some vague memory of transforming an unusable computer in one that could even run emacs (I used to use emacs to edit sources, read email, compile, debug, etc) :-) I just cited it because it used the concept I was thinking about, http://www.xfree.org/3.3.6/LinkKit1.html. Cheers, Rémi Paulo ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: [Brainstorm] LinkKit for Xorg
Paulo � wrote: R�mi Cardona wrote: Le 10/01/2009 03:10, Paulo C�sar Pereira de Andrade a �crit : Xorg (and to some extent XFree86) loadable modules aren't really of much use, as modules cannot be properly unloaded, there is no dependency information; a module doesn't list it's dependencies in any form, causing frequently one to need to load a lot more code/data then required. Hi Paulo, Hi R�mi, Why not implement that instead? Sounds like reviving LinkKit will bring more cruft rather than clean up the current code... The amount of work for either should be similar, just that if you have a closed binary, it must have all symbols resolved. The cool thing about loadable modules would be to be able to switch/disable/enable input/video/etc modules on the fly, but this is not a reality, and requires restarting the X Server anyway... I know I might get dogpiled for this, but why does it necessarily have to require an X server restart? Right now, for example, VT switches seem pretty close to having an X server restart (at least for some parts of it). It certainly would be nice to be able to update drivers and other bits without having to restart X, in much the same way that it would be nice to be able to update the kernel without restarting it. Other benefits could include the ability to detach/reattach/move X servers like you can do with screen and twin. I am not signing myself up to do this ;) What's your ulterior motives with LinkKit anyway? Just curious :) None really, but maybe someone that worked on it is reading the lists and could also comment, or maybe some vague memory of transforming an unusable computer in one that could even run emacs (I used to use emacs to edit sources, read email, compile, debug, etc) :-) I just cited it because it used the concept I was thinking about, http://www.xfree.org/3.3.6/LinkKit1.html. Cheers, R�mi Paulo ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
