Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

[Alan Corey]

Well, OK I can change that.  I mostly meant the free Motif site vs the
paid version if there still is one.  The mainstay of my reference
material is Oreily's vol6a.pdf and vol6b.pdf.  Motif version 1.2 and
X11R5.  My vol6b is dated 2001.  In an age where it's impossible to
have an up to date enough Firefox I'd consider 16 years old to be
retro.

Nothing against newer versions, only spending money on them.  My
Raspbian has Motif 2.3.4-6.  I do Google things and use up to date
stuff when I find it.  There was also a lesstif and open motif, I
don't claim to know the full history.  Interest in it seems to be
dwindling, I'm not sure how serious I am about it.  I want a fast
drawing surface for doing SDR plus some widgets for buttons and
frequency readout.  I want to add a configuration panel with maybe a
dozen items, some edit/combo boxes for setting paths.  Otherwise I'd
do strictly framebuffer graphics.  I don't want a graphics library.  I
don't care much about fonts, icons, color schemes.

Yes, in a production environment I used Borland Delphi 3 up until I
retired in 2008.  It didn't matter that it was old, it was familiar.
We had 1 educational copy that somebody bought when it was $99 and we
used it for years in a university environment for in house stuff.

So the "unofficial not quite up to date Motif page"?  Cumbersome name.
So far I've banged out a quick 50 lines of HTML as a placeholder and
set up a free account on 1apps.  I still haven't submitted a support
ticket on how to enable phpBB.  Everything's up in the air.

On 11/11/17, Marc Balmer  wrote:
> As you call the site the „retro Motif site“ I will not join it.
>
> We use Motif in up-to-date production code.  For us, Motif is a thing of the
> present, not of the past.
>
>
>> Am 11.11.2017 um 18:05 schrieb Alan Corey :
>>
>> OK, I created http://motif.1apps.com/index.html about an hour ago.  I
>> need to contact 1apps support to find out how to enable phpBB.  It
>> doesn't work (anymore) the way they describe in their FAQ at
>> https://www.secureserver.net/help/article/16062?ci=1827_id=417233
>> Old story, the documentation didn't get updated, or at least I hope
>> that's all it is.
>>
>> On 11/11/17, Alan Corey  wrote:
>>> I have to admit I'd favor a modern forum to a mailing list.  A couple
>>> months ago somebody on another list told me I wasn't quoting properly,
>>> well, I'm using Gmail through the web interface.  It apparently
>>> doesn't know how to do that.  And since Motif is GUI it would be handy
>>> to be able to upload pictures like screenshots.
>>>
>>> Of the forum software I see online regularly I think I like phpBB
>>> about the best. https://www.phpbb.com/about/ It's GPL 2 and it's what
>>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ uses.  There's also a
>>> SimpleMachines one that isn't bad. like at https://bitcointalk.org/
>>> Or http://www.simplemachines.org/, uses a MySQL database.
>>>
>>> I'm retired, living the boonies connecting through a cell phone so no
>>> static IP address.  I can't really host but I could be a moderator.  I
>>> have free accounts at devio.us (OpenBSD based) and 1apps.com (Windows
>>> based, apparently). 1apps gives an account 1 gig of free web space
>>> without ads.  I've been on there about 5 years, and they were down for
>>> most of a year at least a couple years ago.  They claim at
>>> http://www.1apps.com/features_apps.aspx to have both SimpleMachines
>>> and phpBB.  I think Motif could be set up with its own account so it
>>> doesn't come out of my 1 gig.  I'm at http://ab1jx.1apps.com/ BTW.
>>>
>>> Back to my original problem, I found that with an xmDrawingArea you
>>> don't set height, you set XmMarginHeight.  I'd consider that
>>> non-obvious, which is why I was looking for a forum or list where such
>>> things were discussed.  Then I played a little with Glade and Cairo,
>>> got it drawing a live spectrum captured from a dongle, but I'm not
>>> sure how to redraw with the next set of data.  Cairo is more of a
>>> swiss army knife than I need and I'm not sure it's going to be fast
>>> enough.  I'd settle for a frame buffer in a widget, so I was looking
>>> at QT.
>>>
>>
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Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

[Marc Balmer]

As you call the site the „retro Motif site“ I will not join it.

We use Motif in up-to-date production code.  For us, Motif is a thing of the 
present, not of the past.


> Am 11.11.2017 um 18:05 schrieb Alan Corey :
> 
> OK, I created http://motif.1apps.com/index.html about an hour ago.  I
> need to contact 1apps support to find out how to enable phpBB.  It
> doesn't work (anymore) the way they describe in their FAQ at
> https://www.secureserver.net/help/article/16062?ci=1827_id=417233
> Old story, the documentation didn't get updated, or at least I hope
> that's all it is.
> 
> On 11/11/17, Alan Corey  wrote:
>> I have to admit I'd favor a modern forum to a mailing list.  A couple
>> months ago somebody on another list told me I wasn't quoting properly,
>> well, I'm using Gmail through the web interface.  It apparently
>> doesn't know how to do that.  And since Motif is GUI it would be handy
>> to be able to upload pictures like screenshots.
>> 
>> Of the forum software I see online regularly I think I like phpBB
>> about the best. https://www.phpbb.com/about/ It's GPL 2 and it's what
>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ uses.  There's also a
>> SimpleMachines one that isn't bad. like at https://bitcointalk.org/
>> Or http://www.simplemachines.org/, uses a MySQL database.
>> 
>> I'm retired, living the boonies connecting through a cell phone so no
>> static IP address.  I can't really host but I could be a moderator.  I
>> have free accounts at devio.us (OpenBSD based) and 1apps.com (Windows
>> based, apparently). 1apps gives an account 1 gig of free web space
>> without ads.  I've been on there about 5 years, and they were down for
>> most of a year at least a couple years ago.  They claim at
>> http://www.1apps.com/features_apps.aspx to have both SimpleMachines
>> and phpBB.  I think Motif could be set up with its own account so it
>> doesn't come out of my 1 gig.  I'm at http://ab1jx.1apps.com/ BTW.
>> 
>> Back to my original problem, I found that with an xmDrawingArea you
>> don't set height, you set XmMarginHeight.  I'd consider that
>> non-obvious, which is why I was looking for a forum or list where such
>> things were discussed.  Then I played a little with Glade and Cairo,
>> got it drawing a live spectrum captured from a dongle, but I'm not
>> sure how to redraw with the next set of data.  Cairo is more of a
>> swiss army knife than I need and I'm not sure it's going to be fast
>> enough.  I'd settle for a frame buffer in a widget, so I was looking
>> at QT.
>> 
> 
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Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

[Alan Corey]

OK, I created http://motif.1apps.com/index.html about an hour ago.  I
need to contact 1apps support to find out how to enable phpBB.  It
doesn't work (anymore) the way they describe in their FAQ at
https://www.secureserver.net/help/article/16062?ci=1827_id=417233
 Old story, the documentation didn't get updated, or at least I hope
that's all it is.

On 11/11/17, Alan Corey  wrote:
> I have to admit I'd favor a modern forum to a mailing list.  A couple
> months ago somebody on another list told me I wasn't quoting properly,
> well, I'm using Gmail through the web interface.  It apparently
> doesn't know how to do that.  And since Motif is GUI it would be handy
> to be able to upload pictures like screenshots.
>
> Of the forum software I see online regularly I think I like phpBB
> about the best. https://www.phpbb.com/about/ It's GPL 2 and it's what
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ uses.  There's also a
> SimpleMachines one that isn't bad. like at https://bitcointalk.org/
> Or http://www.simplemachines.org/, uses a MySQL database.
>
> I'm retired, living the boonies connecting through a cell phone so no
> static IP address.  I can't really host but I could be a moderator.  I
> have free accounts at devio.us (OpenBSD based) and 1apps.com (Windows
> based, apparently). 1apps gives an account 1 gig of free web space
> without ads.  I've been on there about 5 years, and they were down for
> most of a year at least a couple years ago.  They claim at
> http://www.1apps.com/features_apps.aspx to have both SimpleMachines
> and phpBB.  I think Motif could be set up with its own account so it
> doesn't come out of my 1 gig.  I'm at http://ab1jx.1apps.com/ BTW.
>
> Back to my original problem, I found that with an xmDrawingArea you
> don't set height, you set XmMarginHeight.  I'd consider that
> non-obvious, which is why I was looking for a forum or list where such
> things were discussed.  Then I played a little with Glade and Cairo,
> got it drawing a live spectrum captured from a dongle, but I'm not
> sure how to redraw with the next set of data.  Cairo is more of a
> swiss army knife than I need and I'm not sure it's going to be fast
> enough.  I'd settle for a frame buffer in a widget, so I was looking
> at QT.
>


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Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

[Alan Corey]

I have to admit I'd favor a modern forum to a mailing list.  A couple
months ago somebody on another list told me I wasn't quoting properly,
well, I'm using Gmail through the web interface.  It apparently
doesn't know how to do that.  And since Motif is GUI it would be handy
to be able to upload pictures like screenshots.

Of the forum software I see online regularly I think I like phpBB
about the best. https://www.phpbb.com/about/ It's GPL 2 and it's what
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ uses.  There's also a
SimpleMachines one that isn't bad. like at https://bitcointalk.org/
Or http://www.simplemachines.org/, uses a MySQL database.

I'm retired, living the boonies connecting through a cell phone so no
static IP address.  I can't really host but I could be a moderator.  I
have free accounts at devio.us (OpenBSD based) and 1apps.com (Windows
based, apparently). 1apps gives an account 1 gig of free web space
without ads.  I've been on there about 5 years, and they were down for
most of a year at least a couple years ago.  They claim at
http://www.1apps.com/features_apps.aspx to have both SimpleMachines
and phpBB.  I think Motif could be set up with its own account so it
doesn't come out of my 1 gig.  I'm at http://ab1jx.1apps.com/ BTW.

Back to my original problem, I found that with an xmDrawingArea you
don't set height, you set XmMarginHeight.  I'd consider that
non-obvious, which is why I was looking for a forum or list where such
things were discussed.  Then I played a little with Glade and Cairo,
got it drawing a live spectrum captured from a dongle, but I'm not
sure how to redraw with the next set of data.  Cairo is more of a
swiss army knife than I need and I'm not sure it's going to be fast
enough.  I'd settle for a frame buffer in a widget, so I was looking
at QT.
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Re: touchpad

[walter harms]

Am 11.11.2017 00:35, schrieb Lucas Barros:
> I, i was installing synaptics and while following the instructions, i
> opened the terminal and made cd to the right directory and made
> ./configure, but after whem i made make it didn t do anything it just
> printed
> 
> make: *** Nenhum alvo indicado e nenhum arquivo make encontrado.  Pare.
> 
> it's in portuguese... and i don t know what to do after
> 
> thank you!
> 
> 
> 
Hi Lucas,

just a hint:

Since the language of choise in this list is english (i am not native either)
it is helpful to have the errors in that language also. Next time try
env LANG=C make

to have a error message that more people on this list can decode.


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Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

[walter harms]

Am 11.11.2017 09:58, schrieb Marc Balmer:
> Alan,
> 
> I am a bit late in this thread, but I wanted to let you know that I still use 
> Motif in C applications today.  It is very solid indeed, and as we do 
> touchscreen interfaces that cover the whole screen, not windowed desktop 
> applications, Motif is a good fit.
> 
> I am sure a mailing list could be set up if interest raises.
> 


I would be interessted, who can host such a list ?

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Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

[Marc Balmer]

Alan,

I am a bit late in this thread, but I wanted to let you know that I still use 
Motif in C applications today.  It is very solid indeed, and as we do 
touchscreen interfaces that cover the whole screen, not windowed desktop 
applications, Motif is a good fit.

I am sure a mailing list could be set up if interest raises.

- Marc


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