RE: how to start xvfb from Arch linux ARM64 architecture
I have been A chaos man and I have typed xvfb instead of Xvfb. So I could start The server without problems. But therea are other complex issues for Me related to Dbus sockets and Dbint error, which prevent Orca from functioning. BUt thanks to all of you, who are contributing on XVFB development and X11vnc development, it is really possible to run X11 apps on Android devicesand output is even acceptable by sighted users. Sure. I do not think, if is it possible to transport 3D graphics over VNC protocol by using XVFB or no, but for my personal needs, I AM finally able to run Mate including mate panel. Sure, some Mate panel applets are crashing because of memory allocation issues, because Shmem related functions are not implemented on Android OS. Termux uses some library, which does its best to implement all important shared memory sys calls, but this library is compatible with Android Bionic but not with LIBC for normal Linux. So experienced C or C++ programmers would had to spent many many hours to implement it for chroots which are executed on Android device and I Am afraid, that it is not realistic anticipation from Me. BUt even without full Shmem support, it is possible even to use hot keys, activate mate menu, many apps which have been programmed for mate. So Pluma, Caja, Mate archive manager. Unfortunately, Android contain some security algorithms whihch prevent The system to get process capabilities, proc/mounts can not be opened on Android 8 and newer and similar informatic issues. So Gnome-keyring-daemon can not get process capabilities and on Android 6 it report insufficient process capabilities. But for non big professional, who do not work for remarkable company, who do not need to encrypt and protect passwords and other keys in memory, it is OK. ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
RE: how to start xvfb from Arch linux ARM64 architecture
Is it GOogle Play app, x-terminal? My mission is heavy because I must use Termux because it contain Java accessibility code, which allow Me to install Dropbear and other apps so I can remotely control by using SSH protocol and Puty for Windows or by using SSH for Linux. Best accessibility scenario is to use mate-terminal app and Orca screen reader. Since from Windows, NVDA read characters when using Nano editor to edit some configuration files slowly and non reliably. Arrow key press gives speech feetback after one second and some times, it bypass some char. But because Orca do not communicate by using graphic display driver hooks, it can directly communicate with .so libraries and app processes, it return results very fast and reliably. When I have used Sdrausty script in 2017 year, I have been able to use Orca. The question is, if x-terminal will do something with Dbus. My hope would be, if some body advanced, who deeply know C or C++ would determine, if latest DBUS which is being used on latest stable Arch Linux have not been programmed by The way, that it is really impossible to use it from Chroots by using Android devices. To be honest, Dbus sockets have been issue also for Userland app developers. So may be, that it is possible to overcome this issue if somebodey have deep programmers and Linux knowledge, much more better than I have. Thank you I will try to use x-terminal app. And thank you very much for yours kind answer to my plea. ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
AW: how to start xvfb from Arch linux ARM64 architecture
It is very sad to read the android is getting more and more incompatible to his ancestor linux. Some time ago i played and used a phone a x-terminal, did you ever considered that ? re, wh Von: xorg im Auftrag von Mgr. Janusz Chmiel Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 16:47 An: 'Adam Jackson'; xorg@lists.x.org Betreff: RE: how to start xvfb from Arch linux ARM64 architecture Oh its great. I like Xvfb command line better than xvfb-run script. But as I Am observing, I will have to give it up. Termux, Proop, Android 8.) from 11 month of 2019 contain some restrictions related to access The proc/stat file. So processes can not communicate to gether when running mate-session. May be, that some very advanced programmer and man, who know Arch Linux very deep would find AN solution. But because Arch Linux do not work as Debian in chroot, so DBUS do not work atuomatically, it was a wrong personal mission from my way of perspective. I have even found outstanding Ubuntu ARM64 chroot which have been created by special bootstrap script for Anlinux installation scripts. But because Android 8 contain restriction related to access /proc/stat window managers crash. It is obvious, that winow manager need to have access to active processes list to determine their state. sSo as A result, it can not work. >From Debian, I could simply type mate-session & As non root user and Mate have been executed. Sure, some little error exists, shmem is not supported from Android, but I have been even ale to use Orca screen reader, Firefox and many apps for Mate such as archive manager, Caja, mate-control-center I have been even able to customize build in hot keys. Thanks to xvfb and x11vnc, which do not enforce to use shmem it is possible to run it without using -noshm option, I could run many apps including window switching between active window. Unfortunately for Me, powerful Google have introduced restrictions because of some hackers who have wanted to intercept processes, so It is complex to run full X11 apps from Linux on Android newer than 7.0. It is sad, because I was so near to my dream to have portable device. TBecause TCP stack can be used even if GSM or WIFI is not turned on, it is really possible to run X11 apps even with sound support thanks to build in Pulseaudio for Termux. So here was my complex personal mission which have been made from The information available on various mailing lists and on various articles. It was not easz for Me to reach my dream. But unfortunately, The dream is over and I can only sadly think about The days, when Android *7.0 and earlier have existed how users could run Linux apps on Android devices. Speed have been excellent, system did not crashed. ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
