Re: Resolution problem with AMD Radeon 5450/6350 and Dell U3011

2012-10-30 Thread Johan Mazel
2012/10/31 Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Johan Mazel johan.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 I am trying to use a Dell U3011 (30 inches IPS screen) on a Dell
 Optiplex 990 with an AMD HD 5450/6350.
 I am using Debian Testing and Ubuntu 12.10 with Xorg's ATI driver.
 The respective xserver-xorg-video-radeon package versions for these
 two OSes are: 1:6.14.4-5 and 1.6.99.99~git20120913.8637f772-0ubuntu1.

 Theoretically, the HD5450 is able to display the screen's native
 resolution (2560x1600) according to
 http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-3000/hd-3400/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-3400-specifications.aspx
 provided that a dual-link DVI cable is used, which is the case.
 Unfortunately, the biggest available resolution is 1600x1200 on Debian
 Testing and 1920x1200 for Ubuntu 12.10.

 I think there is a discrepancy between what Xorg probes through the
 graphic card as the biggest resolution available (1600x1200, starting
 line 438 in Xorg.0.log_debian_xorg) and what is actually announced by
 the monitor (2560x1600, eg.: line 587 (and further) in
 Xorg.0.log_debian_xorg).
 This discrepancy is also present in Ubuntu's Xorg log files.

 I am guessing that Ubuntu uses a slightly newer version of the driver
 and therefore handle slightly better the resolution.
 However, I have no idea regarding the cause of this discrepancy.

 While the chip is cable of dual link, dual link is only available if
 the oem wired up a dual link DVI connector on your card.  If the oem
 used a single link DVI connector, you will be limited to single link
 DVI.  I suspect that is what's happening.

 Alex

Are you sure that this would explain both problems (I mean with Debian
and Ubuntu) ?
One hypothesis might be that the package used by Ubuntu 12.10 fixes
the software problem present in Debian's package version while the
hardware problems remains...

Johan
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Re: Resolution problem with AMD Radeon 5450/6350 and Dell U3011

2012-10-30 Thread Johan Mazel
I finally found some documentation :
http://i.dell.com/sites/content/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/optiplex-990-tech-guidebook-final-1-4.pdf.
In a short word, for this particular Dell model, Optiplex 990, HD6350
is stuck at 1920x1200. I need to upgrade to HD6450 if I want
2560x1600.
This is also the case for Optiplex 960 with an AMD HD 3450 (cf
https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/desktop-optiplex-960-technical-guidebook-en.pdf).
This means that the guys building graphic card for Dell are
particularly careless/cheap. :/

I'll check the xrandr trick.
I already tried something similar: generating a modeline through
cvt/gft, add it and use xrandr to use it. However, the image was
completely messed up.

Johan

2012/10/31 Thomas Lübking thomas.luebk...@gmail.com:
 On Dienstag, 30. Oktober 2012 16:14:32 CEST, Johan Mazel wrote:
 2012/10/31 Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Johan Mazel
 Theoretically, the HD5450 is able to display the screen's native
 resolution (2560x1600) according to
 http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-3000/hd-3400/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-3400-specifications.aspx
 provided that a dual-link DVI cable is used, which is the case.
 Unfortunately, the biggest available resolution is 1600x1200 on Debian
 Testing and 1920x1200 for Ubuntu 12.10.

 While the chip is cable of dual link, dual link is only available if
 the oem wired up a dual link DVI connector on your card.  If the oem
 used a single link DVI connector, you will be limited to single link
 DVI.  I suspect that is what's happening.

 Alex

 Are you sure that this would explain both problems (I mean with Debian
 and Ubuntu) ?
 One hypothesis might be that the package used by Ubuntu 12.10 fixes
 the software problem present in Debian's package version while the
 hardware problems remains...

 Single link is limited to 1600x1200 unless the entire chain supports reduced 
 blanking, what bumps the limit to 1920x1200 (both at 60Hz)
 Support for latter is probably not correctly detected on the Debian system.

 You can use xrandr --newmode and --addmode and see what happens if you try to 
 forcefully select 2560×1600 (but i'd add a sleep 10; xrandr -s 1920x1200 
 because the screen will likely turn off - or the DVI link burns ;-)

 Also ensure the cable to actually support DL and is not broken (test on other 
 system)

 Notice that DVI-D does *not* mean Dual-Link, but Digital. You need the 
 pins in the center:
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/DVI_Connector_Types.svg/1000px-DVI_Connector_Types.svg.png

 Cheers,
 Thomas
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