Re: Xubuntu team direction
Pasi Lallinaho wrote: J. Anthony Limon wrote: Pasi Lallinaho wrote: Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: Hi there, On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:20:07PM -0600, Jim Campbell wrote: It seems like most people are open to a council-type approach in terms of governance (if that's the right word). It also seems like we would still need someone who can manage the seeds alongside Lionel, and perhaps do some development, too. I'm not sure what all is involved in what Cody has done, to be honest, but we will need to find a person or (perhaps more likely) a couple people who can contribute in a technical manner similar to how has been able to contribute. I wouldn't expect anyone to perform those kind of duties right away, but . . . eventually . . . they could grow into those kind of responsibilities. I know what I'm proposing above isn't terribly formal, but I'm on visiting the neighbouring city of Milwaukee this weekend, and wanted to provide some input on this matter for now. :) I'm all in favor of a council-type approach, thanks for thinking about this. ;) No problem about the people proposed either (although Micheal hasn't contributed at all to Xubuntu for more than six months, nor spoken on our ml or irc chan, so I'm not sure he's still interested). I understand Michael has a lot to do, so I'm not blaming him for this. Maybe someone should contact him if he doesn't reply soonish. I can do that. Cody and Lionel, what do you think about the technical team leader(s)? Also Cody, do you think several leaders per team would make sense? Cody and Lionel, what areas do you think you could use the most support? Is it in bug triage? Is it in development, packaging and patching? Is it in managing the seeds? There may be Xubuntu users or MOTU folks who we could recruit based on a specific need. I know that recruiting new contributors is difficult (particularly skilled ones) but identifying particular areas where we need the most development help would at least give us a chance. The biggest issue isn't packaging imho. Now, most of our packages are synced as-is from Debian, and for the remaining ones, the delta with Debian is well identified (xubuntu-specific changes such as notify-osd support, etc.). Yet, some help would be appreciated on the StableReleaseUpdates (SRU) front, as currently we fix ~0 bug after a release, and users have to live with some annoying bugs during six months. An important problem for karmic was testing (especially gnome components - xfce interactions) and reporting bugs about that. It's rather difficult to have the desktop team change something in their packages, and when we detect that a few days before/after the release, it's impossible. =] Charlie might probably need some help on bug triaging also… (I only focused on 'technical' stuff, but people may need help on documentation and artwork too ;) At least for Lucid, no big help with artwork is needed as we'll mostly polish the Albatross theme with the Shimmer team. I could use some help on renewing the website though, if somebody is interested. Documentation absolutely needs lots of help and love. Cheers, Lionel -- Pasi Lallinaho Xubuntu Marketing Lead Web-designer, graphic artist IRC: knome @ freenode What language and/or CMS is xubuntu.com? - J Currently Drupal, but the with redesign we are migrating to WordPress. -- Pasi Lallinaho Xubuntu Marketing Lead Web-designer, graphic artist IRC: knome @ freenode Is there a repo set up for the website's files or am I being too hopeful? - J -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
Re: New contributor (was: Xubuntu)
jim wrote: Hi Pasi, I have become interested in xubuntu to the point where I want to get involved in the project. I am not a software engineer or even a geek. I spent 23 years in sales and marketing and now I work work in security. I use computers daily at work and have windows, mac and buntu at home. I don't use a lot of the extra packages, mainly just surf the net, email and word processing. I have been burning buntu distros to CD's and have installed ubuntu and xubuntu on 3 of my co-workers home PC's. Is there something I can do to get involved with the xubuntu team? I am open to enrollment in some type of formal online training or even doing something right away if possible. Regards, Jim Smith Eastern USA State of Massachusetts Hey Jim (CC: xubuntu-devel mailing list), we're currently starting the development for the Lucid Lynx release, which is to be released in April 2010, so you are approaching us just in the right time. No formal application is needed, you can jump right in – welcome! The best way to get contributing is to join #xubuntu-devel on the Freenode IRC network and get to know people and get yourself known. You will recognize me by the nick knome on the channel, if you want to talk about any marketing specific issue. You can also contact me if you have any other questions. Do not feel obliged to contact by IRC (email is okay as well), but I can be reached better in IRC. You should also subscribe to at least the xubuntu-devel mailing list [1]. You can also join the #xubuntu channel on Freenode and subscribe to the xubuntu-users mailing list [2]. The biggest tasks the marketing is going to face in the Lucid cycle is to grow the Xubuntu developer community and raise awareness about it. Other tasks include renewing the website, refreshing the artwork (which will consist mostly of polishing the Albatross theme and done by the Shimmer Project [3], which I also lead) and refreshing the documentation artwork and style. We also need to create some release artwork and raise some fuzz in amongst people about Xubuntu when we are closer to releasing. I'd like to do some rather big things (like advertising campaigns) and all the help with it is totally appreciated. Great to hear you are interested in contributing to Xubuntu. [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users [3] http://shimmerproject.org/, IRC channel #shimmer on Freenode -- Pasi Lallinaho Xubuntu Marketing Lead Web-designer, graphic artist IRC: knome @ freenode -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
Re: New contributor (was: Xubuntu)
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Pasi Lallinaho o...@knome.fi wrote: jim wrote: Hi Pasi, I have become interested in xubuntu to the point where I want to get involved in the project. I am not a software engineer or even a geek. I spent 23 years in sales and marketing and now I work work in security. I use computers daily at work and have windows, mac and buntu at home. I don't use a lot of the extra packages, mainly just surf the net, email and word processing. I have been burning buntu distros to CD's and have installed ubuntu and xubuntu on 3 of my co-workers home PC's. Is there something I can do to get involved with the xubuntu team? I am open to enrollment in some type of formal online training or even doing something right away if possible. Regards, Jim Smith Eastern USA State of Massachusetts Hey Jim (CC: xubuntu-devel mailing list), we're currently starting the development for the Lucid Lynx release, which is to be released in April 2010, so you are approaching us just in the right time. No formal application is needed, you can jump right in – welcome! The best way to get contributing is to join #xubuntu-devel on the Freenode IRC network and get to know people and get yourself known. You will recognize me by the nick knome on the channel, if you want to talk about any marketing specific issue. You can also contact me if you have any other questions. Do not feel obliged to contact by IRC (email is okay as well), but I can be reached better in IRC. You should also subscribe to at least the xubuntu-devel mailing list [1]. You can also join the #xubuntu channel on Freenode and subscribe to the xubuntu-users mailing list [2]. The biggest tasks the marketing is going to face in the Lucid cycle is to grow the Xubuntu developer community and raise awareness about it. Other tasks include renewing the website, refreshing the artwork (which will consist mostly of polishing the Albatross theme and done by the Shimmer Project [3], which I also lead) and refreshing the documentation artwork and style. We also need to create some release artwork and raise some fuzz in amongst people about Xubuntu when we are closer to releasing. I'd like to do some rather big things (like advertising campaigns) and all the help with it is totally appreciated. Great to hear you are interested in contributing to Xubuntu. [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users [3] http://shimmerproject.org/, IRC channel #shimmer on Freenode And of course, if you have an ideas yourself on how to contribute (e.g. you have a great idea on how Xubuntu could be marketed better), bring them up and, if you feel like it, take the lead :) Questions can always be sent to the xubuntu-devel mailinglist if you're subscribed. Best, -- Vincent -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
Marketing for Xubuntu Lucid
Hello everybody, I've been planning the Xubuntu Lucid marketing quite a bit and here's my current thoughts. The marketing would be one big entity, which would consist several parts: 1) POSTERS Real-life, touchable posters. Few designs. BW also. Get people to print them and place them on the walls all over the world. 2) WIDGETS Web widgets or something like that. Something a bit more than just a countdown banner. We had the idea of some special banner frames for some days, maybe use that idea? 3) MICROSITE – THE BIG IDEA A microsite for the LTS release. Link to all the poster sources and widgets. Tell about new releases and the LTS concept. Add more content at least weekly (remember that this content can be ready before it's published, so we don't have to rush when we are near to the release). Maybe some developer interviews? Maybe even ask Mark to answer some questions? How to get the voice of users to show? Some interactive parts? 4) EVENTS? Some events to lift Xubuntu to even higher level. Ubuntu Developer Week? Ubuntu Open Week (plan beforehand)! I'm trying to redesign the website for Lucid also. What are we going to do for the developer blog idea? I need help if we are going to follow this plan, especially 3). Comments? -- Pasi Lallinaho Xubuntu Marketing Lead Web-designer, graphic artist IRC: knome @ freenode -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
