[xubuntu-users] Restoring a saved panel layout from a script

2022-04-28 Thread Stuart McGraw

The xfce4 Panel settings applet allows saving and restoring a user's panels' 
layouts to a file.  Given a file saved this way, is there some way to restore 
it from a command line terminal window?  (I want to clone a panel layout to 
multiple users using a script.)

Thanks for any info!



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Re: [xubuntu-users] No scrollbar steppers in xfce4-terninal

2017-11-09 Thread Stuart McGraw
On 11/08/2017 03:39 PM, Teresa e Junior wrote:
> Em 08/11/2017 15:25, Stuart McGraw escreveu:
>> On Fedora-23 which I am coming from I had to hunt around for a theme
>> that had the steppers [*] but no matter what theme I try in Xubuntu
>> (I've installed a bunch including Murine which I've been using on F23),
>> even if steppers appear in other windows (eg thunar) they don't in
>> xfce4-terminal.  I'm running Ubuntu-server-17.10 + Xubuntu package.
> 
> Murrine is GTK+2, you need a GTK+3 theme for current versions of 
> xfce4-terminal.

Thanks, but are you saying that a gtk+3 theme should have steppers 
enabled?  I tried the "greybird" theme (seems to be gtk+3 from what 
I can tell) but no steppers.  And with Murrine on F23 I *did* have 
steppers in xfce4-terminal.

There seems to be on the order of ~100 theme packages available
(that's excluding -icon- themes) so downloading and trying randomly
does not seem to be a practical approach.

The only other info I can think to add is that I notice that on 
Fedora I was using xfce4-terminal-0.6.3; on Ubuntu it is xfce4-
terminal-0.8.6.  Is it possible that xfce4-terminal ignores the 
theme and presence/absence of the steppers hardwired (and they 
are off in -0.8.6)?  In which case I should be looking for a 
replacement rather than a way to make them work?

Additional suggestions or clarification gratefully welcomed...this
problem is seriously hampering my use of Ubuntu.


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Re: [xubuntu-users] Difference: Xubuntu install vs xubuntu package

2017-10-06 Thread Stuart McGraw
On 10/05/2017 10:50 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 21:51:37 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote:
>> I have compared the packages installed on both systems.  The 
>> Ubuntu+xubuntu system has nearly all the packages that the 
>> Xubuntu-desktop system has, and the few that it is missing don't 
>> seem to be likely to be related to this problem.)
> 
> And the Ubuntu+xubuntu system doesn't have packages the Xubuntu-desktop
> system doesn't provide? 

"doesn't provide" -> "does provide", yes?
 
Just a few and they seem unrelated to networking:
  firefox-locale-en, hyphen-en-us, language-pack-en, language-pack-en-base,
  language-pack-gnome-en, language-pack-gnome-en-base, mythes-en-us,
  thermald, thunderbird-locale-en, thunderbird-locale-en-us, wbritish

> Even if not, keep in mind that the network for
> the Ubuntu server image already needed to work, before any X
> related, let alone Xubuntu related packages were installed, while the
> install from the Xubuntu image might (or might not) establish a
> connection with the Xubuntu tools, but perhaps at least by a
> graphically environment. IOW the first way to establish an Internet
> connection most likely differs.

It seems so. ;-)   So I guess my question becomes how to adjust things
after the install so that things work like they would have had I done
a straight Xubuntu-desktop release install.

It's not a matter of huge importance to me -- my machine has a single
permanent wired connection so having an applet that allows for per-
user control of the network is kind of moot.  But it was convenient 
in the past (on other machines) for temporarily enabling and disabling
the network.  And I'd like to understand the cause of the difference 
in case it is symptomatic of other problems that may show up later.

> I already wonder about the path /etc/networks/interfaces .
> Perhaps just a typo.  

Yes, it should have been "network", not "networks".  Sorry.

> However, on my Ubuntu and Arch install I access the Internet by my own
> scripts started by systemd units, so I can't comment on NetworkManager
> and it's GUIs.



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[xubuntu-users] Difference: Xubuntu install vs xubuntu package

2017-10-05 Thread Stuart McGraw
Hello,

I have installed two machines that I think should be substantially
the same.  One was created be installing Ubuntu-17.04-server and
adding the xubuntu-desktop package.  The other was created by 
installing the Xubuntu-17.04-desktop release.  There is one small 
difference between them (I've noticed so far) that I would like 
to fix.

In the Xubuntu-17.04-desktop install, the applet run by Settings -> 
Network Connections lists my ethernet connection as expected.

In the Ubuntu-server+xubuntu install, Network Connections
is empty (and the little network thingie in the Indicators area
says "Ethernet device not managed".)  However there is a working 
network connection, it just seems as if Network Manager (or 
whatever it is that Network Connections applet uses) doesn't 
know about it.

My question is what could cause this difference and how do I
get the Ubuntu+xubuntu network connections applet recognize the
existing network connection, same as the Xubuntu-desktop system?
I think this has something to do with NetworkManager and/or 
systemd, both of which I am woefully ignorant about.

Some additional info -- apologies for volume of information :-(...

I have compared the packages installed on both systems.  The 
Ubuntu+xubuntu system has nearly all the packages that the 
Xubuntu-desktop system has, and the few that it is missing don't 
seem to be likely to be related to this problem.)

When installing both machines, the networks were sussed out by
the installer, I didnt give it any special instructions regarding
the network.  But the /etc/network/interfaces files were different 
on both machines.

(ubtest is the Ubuntu+xubuntu machine who's network applet doesn't 
recognize the network, and xbtest is the Xubuntu-desktop machine 
that does):

ubtest's /etc/networks/interfaces:
  auto lo
  iface lo inet loopback
  # The primary network interface
  auto enp0s3
  iface enp0s3 inet dhcp

xbtest's /etc/networks/interfaces:
  auto lo
  iface lo inet loopback

I also compared boot-time logs for both systems.  I replaced 
ubtest's interfaces file (that explicitly mentions enp0s3) with
the one from xbtest (that doesn't).  The former resulted in a 
functional network (albeit with the network applet problem); the 
latter one doesn't (as seen in the excerpted log file messages 
below) but does show where the boot-time actions of each system 
diverge which I think is the significant thing.  

Messages up to the point shown below are substantially the same 
in both machines.  But then as can be seen, the Xubuntu-desktop 
system (without the problem) does a bunch of stuff starting with 
"keyfile: add connection..." that the Ubuntu+xunbuntu system 
doesn't.  Why?

ubtest: 
Oct 04 23:25:33 ubtest NetworkManager[728]:   [1507181133.4098] manager: 
(lo): new Generic device (/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0)
Oct 04 23:25:33 ubtest NetworkManager[728]:   [1507181133.4413] manager: 
(enp0s3): new Ethernet device (/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/1)
Oct 04 23:25:33 ubtest NetworkManager[728]:   [1507181133.4534] manager: 
startup complete
Oct 04 23:25:33 ubtest NetworkManager[728]:   [1507181133.4850] urfkill 
disappeared from the bus
Oct 04 23:25:33 ubtest NetworkManager[728]:   [1507181133.4887] 
ModemManager available in the bus
Oct 04 23:25:33 ubtest systemd[1]: Started Network Manager Wait Online.
Oct 04 23:25:34 ubtest systemd[1]: Started Raise network interfaces.
Oct 04 23:25:34 ubtest systemd[1]: Reached target Network.
[ifconfig shows enp0s3 is not running, has no ipv4 address which is a
result of the replaced interfaces file I presume.]

xbtest:
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0028] manager: 
(lo): new Generic device (/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0)
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0070] manager: 
(enp0s3): new Ethernet device (/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/1)
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0089] keyfile: 
add connection in-memory (2d1398a2-a84c-3a86-97da-6c8094291c60,"Wired 
connection 1")
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0129] settings: 
(enp0s3): created default wired connection 'Wired connection 1'
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0146] device 
(enp0s3): state change: unmanaged -> unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 20 2]
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0401] device 
(enp0s3): link connected
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0618] urfkill 
disappeared from the bus
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0644] 
ModemManager available in the bus
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.0876] device 
(enp0s3): state change: unavailable -> disconnected (reason 'none') [20 30 0]
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.1045] policy: 
auto-activating connection 'Wired connection 1'
Oct 04 18:46:17 xbtest NetworkManager[631]:   [1507164377.1119] device