Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703556]: Hertz-Mindlin model energy dissipation

2022-10-20 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #703556 on Yade changed:
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Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
Hello,

> I am using:

please read [1] and provide a MWE.

> GravityEngine(gravity=(0,0,g))

GravityEngine is deprecated [2]

> For plotting the energy dissipation of the model I am using: "Hertz-
Mindlin.normDampDissip"

surely you are using something else.
Here it is clear what you mean, but please try to use exactly the same code if 
referring it.

> From which part of the Hertz-Mindlin model is the energy dissipation coming 
> if there is no dissipative force in the model? Can you please refer me to the 
> publication from where this dissipative force appears or from where it comes 
> the "normDampDissip" in this model?
> If the system is energy conservative how it happens that we have energy 
> dissipation?

Documentation [3]:
"Moreover, it is also possible to include the effect of linear viscous damping 
through the definition of the parameters βn and βs."
Damping is the source. Of course, with damping, the system is "not energy 
conservative".

Have a look at Yade material models [4] and Modenese2012b [5]
Also source code is the option [6].

Cheers
Jan

[1] https://www.yade-dem.org/wiki/Howtoask
[2] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.GravityEngine
[3] 
https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.Law2_ScGeom_MindlinPhys_Mindlin
[4] https://yade-dem.org/wiki/ConstitutiveLaws
[5] https://www.yade-dem.org/doc/publications.html
[6] 
https://gitlab.com/yade-dev/trunk/-/blob/master/pkg/dem/HertzMindlin.cpp#L416

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[Yade-users] [Question #703556]: Hertz-Mindlin model energy dissipation

2022-10-20 Thread rox212
New question #703556 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703556

Hi, I have a simple question:

>From which part of the Hertz-Mindlin model is the energy dissipation coming if 
>there is no dissipative force in the model? Can you please refer me to the 
>publication from where this dissipative force appears or from where it comes 
>the  "normDampDissip" in this model? 

I am using: 

[Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_MindlinPhys()],
[Law2_ScGeom_MindlinPhys_Mindlin()]
GravityEngine(gravity=(0,0,g))

TranslationEngine(translationAxis=[0,0,1],velocity=damp,ids=(all),dead=False,)

For plotting the energy dissipation of the model I am using: 
"Hertz-Mindlin.normDampDissip"

If the system is energy conservative how it happens that we have energy 
dissipation?

Thank you in advance!



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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703553]: Can I simulate water in Yade?

2022-10-20 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #703553 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703553

Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
Instant replay:
It very much depends on the definition of "water" and what you expect from it.

Please be (much much) more specific.
Does it flow? How?
Does it influence soil? How?
?

> use water to fill the gap between the particles, just like the soil

just like the soil what?
usually in yade, soil does not fill gap between particles, soil is the 
particles.

> the soil particles are filled with water and groundwater.

How do you distinguish water and groundwater?
how does (from model point of view) differ soil particles filled with water and 
not filled with water?

As a start, search documentation for "water", "flow", "liquid" etc.

Cheers
Jan

[1] https://yade-dem.org/doc/FoamCoupling.html
[2] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.FlowEngine
[3] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.TwoPhaseFlowEngine
[4] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.HydrodynamicsLawLBM
[5] https://www.yade-dem.org/wiki/Fluid-solid_coupling

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703553]: Can I simulate water in Yade?

2022-10-20 Thread 孙灿
Question #703553 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703553

Status: Answered => Open

孙灿 is still having a problem:
I just need to set up groundwater in nature and use water to fill the
gap between the particles, just like the soil, the soil particles are
filled with water and groundwater.

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703554]: How to use notInNotch ?

2022-10-20 Thread Mahmoud Ashour
Question #703554 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703554

Status: Answered => Solved

Mahmoud Ashour confirmed that the question is solved:
exactly, that's what i was looking for. Thanks a lot

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703554]: How to use notInNotch ?

2022-10-20 Thread Mahmoud Ashour
Question #703554 on Yade changed:
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Mahmoud Ashour posted a new comment:
exactly, that's what i was looking for. Thanks a lot

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703553]: Can I simulate water in Yade?

2022-10-20 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #703553 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703553

Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
It very much depends on the definition of "water" and what you expect
from it.

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703554]: How to use notInNotch ?

2022-10-20 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #703554 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703554

Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
Hello,
see example [1]. If it is not sufficient, please provide more information, what 
have you tried and did not work etc.
Cheers
Jan

[1] https://gitlab.com/yade-
dev/trunk/-/blob/master/examples/packs/packs.py

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703553]: Can I simulate water in Yade?

2022-10-20 Thread 孙灿
Question #703553 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703553

Status: Answered => Open

孙灿 is still having a problem:
Suppose I add particles in the range ((0,0,0),(2,3,4)), how do I
generate water to reach a height of 2m?

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[Yade-users] [Question #703554]: How to use notInNotch ?

2022-10-20 Thread Mahmoud Ashour
New question #703554 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703554

Hello,

I'm trying to create a block with a notch. I know that I need to use ' 
notInNotch' to create the package but I'm facing a problem to understand how to 
use it. 

does anyone have an example of how we can use it?

thanks in advance

best regards,
Mahmoud

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703498]: Young's modulus or the effect of the wall on the test

2022-10-20 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #703498 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703498

Status: Needs information => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
> Since makeCloud is not completely symmetrical, is there a way to
generate particles as symmetrically as possible?

There are many options:
- using predefined regular (and therefor symmetric) packing [2,3]
- using a different custom packing (e.r. rectangular grid)
- using makeCloud on half of the domain and then mirror it to the remaining half
- ...

> If makeCloud is not symmetrical, then every simulation result will
have a deviation, or even a large deviation, is this correct?

No.

Not every simulation uses makeCloud, so the question is meaningless
(therefore no) for those simulations not using it.

Not every result will have deviation (from symmetry I assume) even if using 
makeCloud, it depends on the type of results, circumstances, using of makeCloud 
etc.
See above, you can simply mirror makeCloud to make the final packing symmetric, 
even if makeCloud itself is not symmetric.

I would state it as:
Simulation using makeCloud may have results which deviates (even largely) from 
symmetry, but not necessarily.

Cheers
Jan

[2] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.pack.html#yade.pack.regularHexa
[3] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.pack.html#yade.pack.regularOrtho

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703553]: Can I simulate water in Yade?

2022-10-20 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #703553 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703553

Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
Yes

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[Yade-users] [Question #703553]: Can I simulate water in Yade?

2022-10-20 Thread 孙灿
New question #703553 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703553

Can I generate water in the simulation?

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #703498]: Young's modulus or the effect of the wall on the test

2022-10-20 Thread 孙灿
Question #703498 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/703498

孙灿 posted a new comment:
Since makeCloud is not completely symmetrical, is there a way to
generate particles as symmetrically as possible? If makeCloud is not
symmetrical, then every simulation result will have a deviation, or even
a large deviation, is this correct?

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