Re: [Yade-users] [Question #203385]: Export command for sphere packings from YADE to FEM packages like ABAQUS

2012-07-18 Thread Manu
Question #203385 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/203385

Status: Answered = Open

Manu is still having a problem:
HI Jan

Thank you for the feedback. I am actually interested in exporting the
particles to ABAQUS, so that I can understand the deformation and
non-linear behaviour of the particles (metal powder) during compaction.

If you can guide me to what command I can use, that would be of great
help.

Thanks
Manu

On 17 July 2012 21:25, Jan Stránský
question203...@answers.launchpad.netwrote:

 Question #203385 on Yade changed:
 https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/203385

 Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
 Hello Manu,

 as Jerome already said, there is no deformation of particles. Didn't you
 meant the displacement of particles? if so, there are ways to export them.

 Concerning the errors of export.textExt format, could you please send a
 short script reproducing the error and also the actual error you get? it
 will help us to solve your problem or to correct a mistakes in source code
 if there are some.

 I do not know Abaqus very well, but what would you like to achieve by
 exporting geometry (and also what you exactly mean by geometry)? have
 abaqus some features to handle spherical particles? It could be possible to
 export facets (triangles) as tirangular finite elements, but this feature
 is not implemented yet (according to my knowledge).

 There is also no automatic meshing in Yade, althought facets (triangles)
 can be imported from some external files or can be created using gts
 module. The creating of spheres (which is automatized) we call packing
 rather than meshing (as there is no real mesh), did you mean this?

 good luck and do not hesitate to ask again :-)

 Jan



 2012/7/17 Manu question203...@answers.launchpad.net

  New question #203385 on Yade:
  https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/203385
 
  I am a new user of YADE. I am trying to export the sphere packings from
  YADE to a finite element solver like ABAQUS to understand how the sphere
  particles deform. However, I am not sure of the commands I need to use to
  export the sphere packings from YADE to ABAQUS.
 
  When I use a command like:
 
  export.textExt(filename, format=’x_y_z_r’)
 
  from the YADE python file I get errors. I don't know if there is an
  example in YADE manual on how I can export the YADE geometry into ABAQUS
  for meshing. The YADE documentation files don't have suitable help files
 in
  this regard. If you can guide me to a suitable example of the command I
  should use to export the model to ABAQUS from YADE it would be of great
  help for me to get started.
 
  Also if I could get some help files on meshing in YADE it would be of
  great help to me.
 
  Thanks a lot
  Manu
 
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #203385]: Export command for sphere packings from YADE to FEM packages like ABAQUS

2012-07-18 Thread Luc Scholtès
Question #203385 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/203385

Status: Open = Answered

Luc Scholtès proposed the following answer:
Hey,

Just to be sure about what you want to do. Do you actually want to
export positions and radii of particles into a text file so that you can
import it into ABAQUS? If yes, the export function should work, but you
have to import the export module first (I know, the combination import
export can sound a bit weird). In your terminal (with a model previously
launched, of course!), try to type:

from yade import export
export.text('spheres')

That should do the trick.

You are probably aware of those works from B Harthong and JF Jerier on
the subject:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032591010004481
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0020740312001014
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0020768309002054

Cheers

Luc

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #203385]: Export command for sphere packings from YADE to FEM packages like ABAQUS

2012-07-17 Thread jduriez
Question #203385 on Yade changed:
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jduriez proposed the following answer:
Hello,

I can not answer to your precise question about export function, but for
your question : how the sphere particles deform, it is very simple :
they do not deform at all !

They can interpenetrate into each other, but the shapes do not change.
Did I get your point ?

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #203385]: Export command for sphere packings from YADE to FEM packages like ABAQUS

2012-07-17 Thread Jan Stránský
Hello Manu,

as Jerome already said, there is no deformation of particles. Didn't you
meant the displacement of particles? if so, there are ways to export them.

Concerning the errors of export.textExt format, could you please send a
short script reproducing the error and also the actual error you get? it
will help us to solve your problem or to correct a mistakes in source code
if there are some.

I do not know Abaqus very well, but what would you like to achieve by
exporting geometry (and also what you exactly mean by geometry)? have
abaqus some features to handle spherical particles? It could be possible to
export facets (triangles) as tirangular finite elements, but this feature
is not implemented yet (according to my knowledge).

There is also no automatic meshing in Yade, althought facets (triangles)
can be imported from some external files or can be created using gts
module. The creating of spheres (which is automatized) we call packing
rather than meshing (as there is no real mesh), did you mean this?

good luck and do not hesitate to ask again :-)

Jan




2012/7/17 Manu question203...@answers.launchpad.net

 New question #203385 on Yade:
 https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/203385

 I am a new user of YADE. I am trying to export the sphere packings from
 YADE to a finite element solver like ABAQUS to understand how the sphere
 particles deform. However, I am not sure of the commands I need to use to
 export the sphere packings from YADE to ABAQUS.

 When I use a command like:

 export.textExt(filename, format=’x_y_z_r’)

 from the YADE python file I get errors. I don't know if there is an
 example in YADE manual on how I can export the YADE geometry into ABAQUS
 for meshing. The YADE documentation files don't have suitable help files in
 this regard. If you can guide me to a suitable example of the command I
 should use to export the model to ABAQUS from YADE it would be of great
 help for me to get started.

 Also if I could get some help files on meshing in YADE it would be of
 great help to me.

 Thanks a lot
 Manu

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