Re: [Yade-users] [Question #669193]: Yong Modulus rescale

2018-05-18 Thread Jérôme Duriez
Question #669193 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/669193

Jérôme Duriez posted a new comment:
As a remark which will not really help you with your problems, the
"elusive" adjective referred to the doc at https://yade-
dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.FrictMat.young only.

Hopefully  https://yade-
dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys
is clear enough

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #669193]: Yong Modulus rescale

2018-05-18 Thread Jérôme Duriez
Question #669193 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/669193

Status: Open => Answered

Jérôme Duriez proposed the following answer:
Hi,

As a general remark, I think you are not supposed to mix 
Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys() and 
Ip2_CohFrictMat_CohFrictMat_CohFrictPhys() functors.
Because of class inheritance Ip2_CohFrictMat_CohFrictMat_CohFrictPhys() should 
be enough.

Mostly, having two Ip2_CohFrictMat_CohFrictMat_CohFrictPhys(), differing
only with setCohesionNow value, is meaningless and clearly not intended
by the design of this class.

Did you have in mind something in particular mixing all these functors ?


Regarding now your issue with young material parameter, are you aware this may 
not be the particle Young's modulus ? (see the -- maybe elusive-- doc [*])

Actually in your case, young is not the particle Young's modulus because
you do not seem to use Hertz Mindlin contact law. Thus, a curve fitting
calibration step is mandatory before you can expect getting back
experimental results.

(And I did not understand the rescaling concept :-) )

Jérôme


[*] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.FrictMat.young and 
https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys

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[Yade-users] [Question #669193]: Yong Modulus rescale

2018-05-17 Thread Pawel
New question #669193 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/669193

Hi everyone,
I tried to simulate a one dimension excitation of material built of spheres. I 
have a problem with young modulus rescale because I wanted to use spheres with 
a diameter bigger than the width of material. I tried to rescale Young module 
with this equation: E = Ef  * w /(2 r) where E - is Young Module; Ef - is the 
young module from the experiment, w - width of material and r is the radius of 
spheres.

When I check the results of one dimension excitation the results from 
experiments (sigma/ epsilon) and from yade are not thesame (like there is some 
multiplication in Young Module)

I use in Engine:
[Ig2_Sphere_Sphere_ScGeom6D(interactionDetectionFactor=1.3),
Ig2_Wall_Sphere_ScGeom(),Ig2_Facet_Sphere_ScGeom6D()],
[Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys(),

Ip2_CohFrictMat_CohFrictMat_CohFrictPhys(setCohesionNow=False,setCohesionOnNewContacts=False),

Ip2_CohFrictMat_CohFrictMat_CohFrictPhys(setCohesionNow=True,setCohesionOnNewContacts=False),
],

Pawel

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