Re: [Yade-users] [Question #694664]: Tiny particles don't react with the wall

2021-01-01 Thread Leonard
Question #694664 on Yade changed:
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Leonard confirmed that the question is solved:
Thanks Jan Stránský, that solved my question.

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #694664]: Tiny particles don't react with the wall

2021-01-01 Thread Leonard
Question #694664 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/694664

Status: Answered => Solved

Leonard confirmed that the question is solved:
Hi Jan,
Thanks for your reply.

Besides the way you suggest, I also tried using O.dt=(small
value)*PWaveTimeStep[5] to decrease the timeStep, as it is computed from
sphere radii, rigidities and masses[5]. I hope this way could also solve
this problem.

Cheers
Leonard

[5]https://yade-
dev.gitlab.io/trunk/yade.utils.html?highlight=pwavetimestep#yade._utils.PWaveTimeStep

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #694664]: Tiny particles don't react with the wall

2020-12-26 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #694664 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/694664

Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
Hello,

> I use this model for triaxial compression test
> the example figure could be find at [1]

please provide the code [2]

> I guessed it is that there was no contact detection between these tiny
particles and the top wall so that these particles passed through the
top wall.

it is the most reasonable explanation

> And I use GlobalStiffnessTimeStepper
> Then I set the timestepSafetyCoefficient

GlobalStiffnessTimeStepper, as the name suggest, set time step according
to stiffness, not particle sizes/velocities

> (1) The higher the timestepSafetyCoefficient, the more safe the dt is?
Or the lower the timestepSafetyCoefficient, the more safe the dt is?

GlobalStiffnessTimeStepper computes something, which is then multiplied by 
GlobalStiffnessTimeStepper to get actual dt [3].
So the lower value, the more safety.
But again, safety w.r.t. stiffness, not particle sizes/velocities. So for this 
problem, go another way than timestepSafetyCoefficient

> (2) Is there any other way to let the missed contacts being detected
correctly during the simulation?

of course. For example you can:
- set maximum wall velocity
- compute respective time step such that the maximum wall displacement during 
one time step is some fraction of tiny particles size
- set this time step as maxDt [4].

cheers
Jan

[2] https://www.yade-dem.org/wiki/Howtoask
[3] 
https://gitlab.com/yade-dev/trunk/-/blob/master/pkg/dem/GlobalStiffnessTimeStepper.cpp,
 search timestepSafetyCoefficient
[4] 
https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.GlobalStiffnessTimeStepper.maxDt

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[Yade-users] [Question #694664]: Tiny particles don't react with the wall

2020-12-24 Thread Leonard
New question #694664 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/694664

Hi,
I have a sand model with extral tiny particles among the pore space of the 
sample, and I use this model for triaxial compression test. The boundary 
condition is simulated by six rigid walls (use 
walls=aabbWalls([mn,mx],thickness=0,material='FrictMat')).  And I use 
GlobalStiffnessTimeStepper(active=1,timeStepUpdateInterval=100,timestepSafetyCoefficient=0.8)
 for setting the dt.

However, I found that at the end of the simulation (where axial strain = 40%), 
many tiny particles stay at their original places, which means that these tiny 
particles didn't react with the boundary wall during the simulation, the 
example figure could be find at [1].

I guessed it is that there was no contact detection between these tiny 
particles and the top wall so that these particles passed through the top wall. 
Then I set the timestepSafetyCoefficient from 0.8 to 0.1 to decrease the dt 
(not sure if it is correct), but I gained the same result as [1] shows.

My questions are: (1) The higher the timestepSafetyCoefficient, the more safe 
the dt is? Or the lower the timestepSafetyCoefficient, the more safe the dt is? 
(2) Is there any other way to let the missed contacts being detected correctly 
during the simulation?

Thanks very much!

Leonard
[1]https://we.tl/t-SRQDF5JLh8


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