Re: [Yade-users] [Question #696704]: How to get P-wave and S-wave velocity

2021-05-09 Thread Leonard
Question #696704 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/696704

Status: Answered => Solved

Leonard confirmed that the question is solved:
Thanks Jérôme and Bruno!

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #696704]: How to get P-wave and S-wave velocity

2021-04-28 Thread Bruno Chareyre
Question #696704 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/696704

Bruno Chareyre proposed the following answer:
Hi,

PWave velocity is (bulk modulus /density)**0.5 with "modulus" and
"density" defined at the macroscale.

For density it is simply mat.density * (1-porosity). For the modulus, you can 
evaluate it with a static loading (uniaxial compression).
I would discourage trying to actually simulate a wave propagation, it is 
particularly complex and error-prone.
Bruno

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #696704]: How to get P-wave and S-wave velocity

2021-04-26 Thread Jérôme Duriez
Question #696704 on Yade changed:
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Jérôme Duriez posted a new comment:
The above should read

> in a packing including bodies with these *parameters*

Sorry

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #696704]: How to get P-wave and S-wave velocity

2021-04-26 Thread Jérôme Duriez
Question #696704 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/696704

Status: Open => Answered

Jérôme Duriez proposed the following answer:
I think what is usually coined in the doc as P-Wave velocity is 
(b.mat.young / b.mat.density)**0.5 # b a body with a material having these 
young and density attributes -- most of them.

Whether (b.mat.young / b.mat.density)**0.5 actually is a elastic wave
velocity in a packing including bodies with these velocities is another
question, in my opinion (and the answer would be no), but this is part
of the classical confusion about these "young" parameter..

As for the S-wave velocity, it's kind of the same: the only way I see to
measure it is to actually simulate a S wave and to measure its speed.

(Note that in the particular case of your link, the doc is even more
unfortunate in my opinion -- on my TODO list by the way.. -- since
PolyhedraMat.young may not be a stress-like quantity in Pa)

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[Yade-users] [Question #696704]: How to get P-wave and S-wave velocity

2021-04-22 Thread Leonard
New question #696704 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/696704

Hi,

I'd like to ask that how to get the P-wave velocity and Shear wave velocity in 
Yade for a DEM soil model?

According to [1], in which it gets timestep accoring to the velocity of P-Wave 
propagation, so I guess there is already an function that can directly get the 
P-Wave velocity, but I didn't find it. 

For the Shear wave velocity, do you have any suggestions to get it?

Thanks!

Leonard

[1]https://yade-dev.gitlab.io/trunk/yade.polyhedra_utils.html?highlight=pwave#yade._polyhedra_utils.PWaveTimeStep



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