Didn't mean to be prescriptive. I am not a programmer and could care
less about core data or whatever. Certainly I have some understanding
of technology and it seems bizarre that no release has been
forthcoming that plays well with Time Machine - it certainly is an
indication Core Data is the wrong tool for the job. I am sure Apple
has all sorts of tech that is or isn't appropriate for various
applications. I often wonder if the Apple file system technology that
comes with OSX would have been the right tool for Yojimbo (I only
started to wonder when I was surprised to find out it wasn't the
underlying tech for yojimbo other than storing one big blob).
I would have expected Yojimbo to play well with RSync before leopard
(and assumed it was), and now with Time Machine, the size of the
backups is rather large (and i am hopeful the yojimbo archive is not
corrupt).
If you/they are waiting for apple to make Core Data practical for time
machine compatibility, I saw this on WIkipedia (so it might be true):
Core Data can serialize objects into XML, Binary, or SQLite for
storage. With the release of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, developers can
also create their own custom atomic store types. . Any application
to the problem at hand?
Angry - no - why would I be angry? Annoyed I am not getting the
utility out of Time Machine I would expect, and disturbed all my files
archived in Yojimbo are in one big opaque file - yes.
Doug
On 5-Apr-08, at 2:56 PM, Robert Occhialini Jr. wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Doug Ransom wrote:
On 4-Apr-08, at 3:02 PM, Rich Siegel wrote:
I suggest BareBones consider moving their data store out of the
sqlite
database and store Yojimbo entries onto the file system. The time
machine backups are getting rather large when the whole database is
backed up.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Yojimbo uses Core
Data, which is a subsystem supplied by the OS for precisely the
sort of data storage needs that Yojimbo has. The fact that Core
Data uses sqlite is an implementation detail and is, by design,
abstracted away from Core Data clients.
Since Core Data is a fundamental part of the OS, we leave it to
Apple to make sure that it plays nicely with other relevant OS
components. Since Time Machine is brand new and there are still
lots of angles to figure out, I have every confidence that in the
long term, Time Machine will evolve as necessary to accommodate
the needs of Core Data clients.
From and uses perspective, Yojimbo is clearly missing the need for
integration with state of the art backup available in Leopard -
files that are changed are backed up. I am really not interested
in whether you built Yobjimbo with CoreData and XML and C# and some
thread pools or whatever. Leopard has been out a long time.
Doug
Leopard has been out a long time ? Less than a year is not a long
time, unless you are a toddler.
I suspect you did not read Rich's reply carefully, or you did not
understand it. Bare Bones built Yojimbo on top of Apple's
technologies. It's reasonable for them to expect that Apple's
subsequent technologies would be compatible or will be eventually
made to be compatible.
If you aren't interested in reading the answer, why did you ask the
question in the first place? You were technologically prescriptive
in your question, and then you get angry because their answer is
explicit?
I think that Rich's response was appropriate. You are starting to
sound like you want a pony.
Thanks
Robert Occhialini
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