[zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah

2008-09-25 Terurut Topik Hati Nurani
Negara Amerika Latin yang miskin-miskin wanitanya tidak berjilbab.

--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for 
Oprah
To: zamanku@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 12:51 PM







Busana boleh saja, tetapi bukan untuk  dipaksakan pada wanita, pada pihak lain 
orang laki  boleh berpakain seperti Mr John, Mr Kent,  Mr Thom dengan open jas 
seperti Mr Gentlemen. 
 
Dari pakaian saja sudah  berbeda, makanya itu distribusi pendapatan di 
Indonesia berbeda seperti dunia dan langit, kemiskinan merraja lela dan tidak 
akan bisa ada kemajuan.
 

- Original Message - 
From: Hati Nurani 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for 
Oprah








 
Banyak orang mengecam busana muslimah dengan berbagai Alasan, misalnya  ada 
yang beralasan supaya jangan sampai keluar aturan agar non muslimah 'dipaksa' 
memakai  busana muslimah.
 
Ada yang menggunakan alasan bahwa dengan banyaknya busana muslimah, pakaian 
tradisional tersingkir.
 
Semua alasan itu biasanya hanya mengada-ada. Alasan Utama adalah, jangan sampai 
ada orang Muslim/muslimah menjalankan ajaran agamanya. Dan bisikan seperti ini 
adalah bisikan Syetan/Iblis yang tidak suka manusia menjalankan aturan agama.
 
Inilah contoh bisikan itu :
Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your independence and 
freedom without being promiscuous or immodest
 
Salam,

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

From: gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: [zamanku] Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 11:35 PM




It should be an eye opener for Indonesian women (Muslimah) who are now being 
coerced by the fanatical Muslim men to accept restrictions which the Arab 
Muslimah are beginning to realize as a form of subjugation.

Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your independence and 
freedom without being promiscuous or immodest. Look at your Arab counterparts 
only now (with cable television, the internet, magazines and travels) they 
began to realize that they have been treated shabilly by the men because of 
their tradition. Why do you want to go back into the unfair, injurious and 
demeaning customs of the dark ages.

Gabriela Rantau

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.iht. com/articles/ 2008/09/19/ mideast/oprah. php
 
 
 MBC's Web site includes information about the show. (MBC4) 
 Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah
 
 By Katherine Zoepf Published: September 19, 2008
 
 
 DAMMAM, Saudi Arabia: Once a month, Nayla says, she writes a letter to Oprah 
 Winfrey.
 
 A young Saudi homemaker who covers her face in public might not seem to have 
 much in common with an American talk show host whose image is known to 
 millions. Like many women in this conservative desert kingdom, Nayla does not 
 usually socialize with people outside her extended family, and she never 
 leaves the house unless chaperoned by her husband.
 
 Winfrey has not answered the letters. But Nayla says she is still hoping.
 
 I feel that Oprah truly understands me, Nayla said. She gives me energy 
 and hope for my life. Sometimes I think that she is the only person in the 
 world who knows how I feel.
 
 Nayla is not the only Saudi woman to feel a special connection to the 
 American media mogul. When The Oprah Winfrey Show was first broadcast in 
 Saudi Arabia in November 2004
 
 on a Dubai-based satellite channel, it became an immediate sensation among 
 young Saudi women.
 
 Within months, it had become the highest-rated English-language program among 
 women 25 and younger, an age group that makes up about a third of Saudi 
 Arabia's population.
 
 In a country where the sexes are rigorously separated, where topics like sex 
 and race are rarely discussed openly and where a strict code of public 
 morality is enforced by religious police called hai'a, Winfrey provides many 
 young Saudi women with new ways of thinking about the way local taboos affect 
 their lives - a variety of issues including childhood sexual abuse and coping 
 with marital strife - without striking them, or Saudi Arabia's ruling 
 authorities, as subversive.
 
 Some women here say Winfrey's assurances to her viewers - that no matter how 
 restricted or even abusive their circumstances may be, they can take control 
 in small ways and create lives of value - helps them find meaning in their 
 cramped, veiled existence..
 
 Oprah dresses conservatively,  explained Princess Reema bint Bandar 
 al-Saud, a co-owner of a women's spa in Riyadh called Yibreen and a daughter 
 of Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the former Saudi ambassador to the United 
 States. She struggles with her weight. She overcame depression.. She rose 
 from 

Re: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah

2008-09-25 Terurut Topik Sunny
Konyol pikiranmu, koq yang dipaksa wanita harus pakain Islamiah, tetapi 
laki-lakinya boleh seperti Mr John dan Mr Gentleman. Itukah keadilan Awlloh?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Hati Nurani 
  To: zamanku@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:38 AM
  Subject: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for 
Oprah


Negara Amerika Latin yang miskin-miskin wanitanya tidak berjilbab.

--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to 
the TV for Oprah
  To: zamanku@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 12:51 PM


  Busana boleh saja, tetapi bukan untuk  dipaksakan pada wanita, pada 
pihak lain orang laki  boleh berpakain seperti Mr John, Mr Kent,  Mr Thom 
dengan open jas seperti Mr Gentlemen. 

  Dari pakaian saja sudah  berbeda, makanya itu distribusi pendapatan 
di Indonesia berbeda seperti dunia dan langit, kemiskinan merraja lela dan 
tidak akan bisa ada kemajuan.

- Original Message - 
From: Hati Nurani 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to 
the TV for Oprah



  Banyak orang mengecam busana muslimah dengan berbagai Alasan, 
misalnya  ada yang beralasan supaya jangan sampai keluar aturan agar non 
muslimah 'dipaksa' memakai  busana muslimah.

  Ada yang menggunakan alasan bahwa dengan banyaknya busana 
muslimah, pakaian tradisional tersingkir.

  Semua alasan itu biasanya hanya mengada-ada. Alasan Utama 
adalah, jangan sampai ada orang Muslim/muslimah menjalankan ajaran agamanya. 
Dan bisikan seperti ini adalah bisikan Syetan/Iblis yang tidak suka manusia 
menjalankan aturan agama.

  Inilah contoh bisikan itu :
  Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your 
independence and freedom without being promiscuous or immodest

  Salam,

  --- On Sun, 9/21/08, gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

From: gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: [zamanku] Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV 
for Oprah
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 11:35 PM


It should be an eye opener for Indonesian women (Muslimah) 
who are now being coerced by the fanatical Muslim men to accept restrictions 
which the Arab Muslimah are beginning to realize as a form of subjugation.

Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your 
independence and freedom without being promiscuous or immodest. Look at your 
Arab counterparts only now (with cable television, the internet, magazines and 
travels) they began to realize that they have been treated shabilly by the men 
because of their tradition. Why do you want to go back into the unfair, 
injurious and demeaning customs of the dark ages.

Gabriela Rantau

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 http://www.iht. com/articles/ 2008/09/19/ mideast/oprah. 
php
 
 
 MBC's Web site includes information about the show. 
(MBC4) 
 Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah
 
 By Katherine Zoepf Published: September 19, 2008
 
 
 DAMMAM, Saudi Arabia: Once a month, Nayla says, she 
writes a letter to Oprah Winfrey.
 
 A young Saudi homemaker who covers her face in public 
might not seem to have much in common with an American talk show host whose 
image is known to millions. Like many women in this conservative desert 
kingdom, Nayla does not usually socialize with people outside her extended 
family, and she never leaves the house unless chaperoned by her husband.
 
 Winfrey has not answered the letters. But Nayla says she 
is still hoping.
 
 I feel that Oprah truly understands me, Nayla said. 
She gives me energy and hope for my life. Sometimes I think that she is the 
only person in the world who knows how I feel.
 
 Nayla is not the only Saudi woman to feel a special 
connection to the American media mogul. When The Oprah Winfrey Show was first 
broadcast in Saudi Arabia in November 2004
 
 on a Dubai-based satellite channel, it became an 
immediate sensation among young Saudi women.
 
 Within months, it 

Re: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah

2008-09-23 Terurut Topik Sunny
Busana boleh saja, tetapi bukan untuk  dipaksakan pada wanita, pada pihak lain 
orang laki  boleh berpakain seperti Mr John, Mr Kent,  Mr Thom dengan open jas 
seperti Mr Gentlemen. 

Dari pakaian saja sudah  berbeda, makanya itu distribusi pendapatan di 
Indonesia berbeda seperti dunia dan langit, kemiskinan merraja lela dan tidak 
akan bisa ada kemajuan.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Hati Nurani 
  To: zamanku@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:13 AM
  Subject: [zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for 
Oprah



Banyak orang mengecam busana muslimah dengan berbagai Alasan, misalnya  
ada yang beralasan supaya jangan sampai keluar aturan agar non muslimah 
'dipaksa' memakai  busana muslimah.

Ada yang menggunakan alasan bahwa dengan banyaknya busana muslimah, 
pakaian tradisional tersingkir.

Semua alasan itu biasanya hanya mengada-ada. Alasan Utama adalah, 
jangan sampai ada orang Muslim/muslimah menjalankan ajaran agamanya. Dan 
bisikan seperti ini adalah bisikan Syetan/Iblis yang tidak suka manusia 
menjalankan aturan agama.

Inilah contoh bisikan itu :
Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your independence 
and freedom without being promiscuous or immodest

Salam,

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [zamanku] Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah
  To: zamanku@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 11:35 PM


  It should be an eye opener for Indonesian women (Muslimah) who are 
now being coerced by the fanatical Muslim men to accept restrictions which the 
Arab Muslimah are beginning to realize as a form of subjugation.

  Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your 
independence and freedom without being promiscuous or immodest. Look at your 
Arab counterparts only now (with cable television, the internet, magazines and 
travels) they began to realize that they have been treated shabilly by the men 
because of their tradition. Why do you want to go back into the unfair, 
injurious and demeaning customs of the dark ages.

  Gabriela Rantau

  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   http://www.iht. com/articles/ 2008/09/19/ mideast/oprah. php
   
   
   MBC's Web site includes information about the show. (MBC4) 
   Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah
   
   By Katherine Zoepf Published: September 19, 2008
   
   
   DAMMAM, Saudi Arabia: Once a month, Nayla says, she writes a letter 
to Oprah Winfrey.
   
   A young Saudi homemaker who covers her face in public might not 
seem to have much in common with an American talk show host whose image is 
known to millions. Like many women in this conservative desert kingdom, Nayla 
does not usually socialize with people outside her extended family, and she 
never leaves the house unless chaperoned by her husband.
   
   Winfrey has not answered the letters. But Nayla says she is still 
hoping.
   
   I feel that Oprah truly understands me, Nayla said. She gives me 
energy and hope for my life. Sometimes I think that she is the only person in 
the world who knows how I feel.
   
   Nayla is not the only Saudi woman to feel a special connection to 
the American media mogul. When The Oprah Winfrey Show was first broadcast in 
Saudi Arabia in November 2004
   
   on a Dubai-based satellite channel, it became an immediate 
sensation among young Saudi women.
   
   Within months, it had become the highest-rated English-language 
program among women 25 and younger, an age group that makes up about a third of 
Saudi Arabia's population.
   
   In a country where the sexes are rigorously separated, where topics 
like sex and race are rarely discussed openly and where a strict code of public 
morality is enforced by religious police called hai'a, Winfrey provides many 
young Saudi women with new ways of thinking about the way local taboos affect 
their lives - a variety of issues including childhood sexual abuse and coping 
with marital strife - without striking them, or Saudi Arabia's ruling 
authorities, as subversive.
   
   Some women here say Winfrey's assurances to her viewers - that no 
matter how restricted or even abusive their circumstances may be, they can take 
control in small ways and create lives of value - helps them find meaning in 
their cramped, veiled existence..
   
   Oprah dresses conservatively,  explained Princess Reema bint 
Bandar al-Saud, a co-owner of a women's spa in Riyadh called Yibreen and a 
daughter of Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the former Saudi ambassador to the United 
States. 

[zamanku] Bisikan Syetan Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah

2008-09-22 Terurut Topik Hati Nurani
 
Banyak orang mengecam busana muslimah dengan berbagai Alasan, misalnya  ada 
yang beralasan supaya jangan sampai keluar aturan agar non muslimah 'dipaksa' 
memakai  busana muslimah.
 
Ada yang menggunakan alasan bahwa dengan banyaknya busana muslimah, pakaian 
tradisional tersingkir.
 
Semua alasan itu biasanya hanya mengada-ada. Alasan Utama adalah, jangan sampai 
ada orang Muslim/muslimah menjalankan ajaran agamanya. Dan bisikan seperti ini 
adalah bisikan Syetan/Iblis yang tidak suka manusia menjalankan aturan agama.
 
Inilah contoh bisikan itu :
Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your independence and 
freedom without being promiscuous or immodest
 
Salam,

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [zamanku] Re: Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah
To: zamanku@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 11:35 PM






It should be an eye opener for Indonesian women (Muslimah) who are now being 
coerced by the fanatical Muslim men to accept restrictions which the Arab 
Muslimah are beginning to realize as a form of subjugation.

Come on, Indonesian Muslimah, you have always enjoyed your independence and 
freedom without being promiscuous or immodest. Look at your Arab counterparts 
only now (with cable television, the internet, magazines and travels) they 
began to realize that they have been treated shabilly by the men because of 
their tradition. Why do you want to go back into the unfair, injurious and 
demeaning customs of the dark ages.

Gabriela Rantau

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.iht. com/articles/ 2008/09/19/ mideast/oprah. php
 
 
 MBC's Web site includes information about the show. (MBC4) 
 Saudi women beat a path to the TV for Oprah
 
 By Katherine Zoepf Published: September 19, 2008
 
 
 DAMMAM, Saudi Arabia: Once a month, Nayla says, she writes a letter to Oprah 
 Winfrey.
 
 A young Saudi homemaker who covers her face in public might not seem to have 
 much in common with an American talk show host whose image is known to 
 millions. Like many women in this conservative desert kingdom, Nayla does not 
 usually socialize with people outside her extended family, and she never 
 leaves the house unless chaperoned by her husband.
 
 Winfrey has not answered the letters. But Nayla says she is still hoping.
 
 I feel that Oprah truly understands me, Nayla said. She gives me energy 
 and hope for my life. Sometimes I think that she is the only person in the 
 world who knows how I feel.
 
 Nayla is not the only Saudi woman to feel a special connection to the 
 American media mogul. When The Oprah Winfrey Show was first broadcast in 
 Saudi Arabia in November 2004
 
 on a Dubai-based satellite channel, it became an immediate sensation among 
 young Saudi women.
 
 Within months, it had become the highest-rated English-language program among 
 women 25 and younger, an age group that makes up about a third of Saudi 
 Arabia's population.
 
 In a country where the sexes are rigorously separated, where topics like sex 
 and race are rarely discussed openly and where a strict code of public 
 morality is enforced by religious police called hai'a, Winfrey provides many 
 young Saudi women with new ways of thinking about the way local taboos affect 
 their lives - a variety of issues including childhood sexual abuse and coping 
 with marital strife - without striking them, or Saudi Arabia's ruling 
 authorities, as subversive.
 
 Some women here say Winfrey's assurances to her viewers - that no matter how 
 restricted or even abusive their circumstances may be, they can take control 
 in small ways and create lives of value - helps them find meaning in their 
 cramped, veiled existence.
 
 Oprah dresses conservatively,  explained Princess Reema bint Bandar 
 al-Saud, a co-owner of a women's spa in Riyadh called Yibreen and a daughter 
 of Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the former Saudi ambassador to the United 
 States. She struggles with her weight. She overcame depression. She rose 
 from poverty and from abuse. On all these levels she appeals to a Saudi 
 woman. People really idolize her here.
 
 Today, The Oprah Winfrey Show, with Arabic subtitles, is broadcast twice 
 each weekday on MBC4, a three-year-old channel developed by the MBC Group 
 with the Arab woman in mind. The show's guests, self-improvement tips, and 
 advice on family relationships - as well as Winfrey's clothes and changing 
 hairstyles - are eagerly analyzed by Saudi women from a wide range of social 
 backgrounds and income levels.
 
 The largest-circulation Saudi women's magazine, Sayidaty, devotes a regular 
 page to Winfrey, and dog-eared copies of her official magazine, O, which is 
 not sold in the Kingdom, are passed around by women who collect them during 
 trips abroad.
 
 The particulars of Winfrey's personal story have resonated with a broad 
 audience of Saudi women in a way that few