[Zappa-List] Re: VO: Frank Zappa - TV Appearances Vol 2. (PAL DVD)
I'm afraid we'll have to retire this one - There's a problem with it(read error)and it never got very far. Conehead had a problem with it too, so I think the only one who may have a good copy is Michael. I tried emailing him and didn't get a response. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conehead-BE John K - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neil (UK)[EMAIL PROTECTED](nick UK) Schmig (Ire) Dawayne Richard Moore UK Mike - USAmichaelaw1@ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE
Still looking for a good copy of this one. By the time this vine got to me, the disc was damaged. If someone has a copy they could send me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, John K For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] W Toasts FZ's Birthday
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[Zappa-List] Ripping?
All, What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying? Mr. Skull "Being in politics is like being a football coach; you have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important." -Eugene McCarthy, 1968 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Zappa-List] Ripping?
mr_and_mrs_skull asked - All, What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying? Mr. Skull I think the term first gained popular usage when mp3 caught on. A music CD (usually factory made) would be inserted and the act of producing mp3 files on the hard drive from it was termed ripping. I guess a new term was necessary in that audio on a music CD is in a format that cant be stored on a hard drive. CDDA or compact digital disc format. So to get the music onto your hard drive it cant be just copied but rather must be changed to a different format. Wav files are almost bit for bit identical to CDDA but the header is a little different on CDDA by design so that it cant be copied so easily. At least thats what they thought back in the early eighties. Mp3 is of course not similar at all and most of the digital information must be discarded when mp3 is created. Flac and shn files still contain all of the data from the original wav file but store it a bit more compactly and can be expanded back into the original wav file. With mp3 you can expand back to wav but you can never get back the information thats been tossed out. Thats why theyre referred to as lossy while wav, flac and shn are considered lossless. Much of the information that gets tossed out in the creation of mp3 isnt even audible however and thats why they can sound as good as the do. Results seem to vary dramatically to my ear depending on what encoder is used. To me LAME makes the very best mp3 and razorlame is a good front end for it. Both are free. Then DVD entered the picture. Commercially produced DVD is encrypted and so cant be directly copied to the hard drive or disc ether. So ripping software for DVD became available in short order. It decrypts the files so that they can be copied. Unencrypted DVDs like we share here can be directly copied to the hard drive. Also if you do a direct disc copy of a CD it doesnt have to be ripped to another format but can directly copy the CDDA files. The belief that EAC (exact audio copy) software is superior at reading the disc however has lead to the practice of ripping an audio CD into wav files first and then authoring a new CD from them rather than doing a disc copy. Everything Ive read as well as my own experiences seems to back up this belief. Ideally a software could read the disc like EAC but create a disc image from the data instead of making wav files. That would avoid converting from CDDA to wav and then back to CDDA just to copy a disc. Perhaps EAC will get around to that in the future. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:30 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] Ripping? All, What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying? Mr. Skull Being in politics is like being a football coach; you have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -Eugene McCarthy, 1968 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] VO: Instant Bootleg Collection Vol 1. Vol. 2
Thanks to Joe Della Posta on the east coast for sending this one on to me on the west coast - I've got it copied and I'm ready to pass it on to Neil across the pond. Happy holidays! John Neil (UK) Richard Moore UK[EMAIL PROTECTED]... (UK)Conehead-BE Schmig (Ire) Shannon R (USA) Luis-AR [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Arto-IRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instant Bootleg Collection Vol. 1Frank Zappa1968, "Uncle Meat" demo (aka acetate)Available Recordings, according JN:41 min, B+Source: 41:01 min, B+Lineage: Studio ? traded CDR EAC (secure mode) wav Audition1.5 (gaps removed) shntool flac frontend (lvl 7) CDRTaped by: N/ATransfered by: N/AEdited by: walkFile Size: 225 MB (FLAC)THE MOTHERS at the time of this recording were:Frank Zappa guitar, low grade vocals, percussionRay Collins swell vocalsJimmy Carl Black drums, droll humor, povertyRoy Estrada electric bass, chesseburgers, Pachuco falsettoDon (Dom De Wild) Preston electric piano, tarot cards, brown riceBilly (The Oozer) Mundi drums on some pieces before he quit to joinRHINOCEROSBunk (Sweetpants) Gardner piccolo, flute, clarinet, bass clarinet,soprano sax, alto sax, tenor sax, bassoon (all of these electricand/or non-electric depending)Ian Underwood electric organ, piano, harpsichord, celeste, flute,clarinet, alto sax, baritone sax, special assistance, copyist,industrial relations teen appealArtie (With the Green Mustache) Tripp drums, timpani, vibes,marimba, xylophone, wood blocks, bells, small chimes, cheerfuloutlook specific enquiriesEuclid James (Motorhead/Motorishi) Sherwood pop star, frenetic tenorsax stylings, tambourine, choreography, obstinance equipmentsetter-upper when he's not hustling local groupiesSpecial thanks to:Ruth Komanoff who plays marimba and vibes with Artie on many of thetracks, andNelcy Walker the soprano voice with Ray Roy on Dog Breath TheUncle Meat VariationsUncredited:Pamela Zarubica as Suzy CreamcheeseSetlist:01 Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague (different ending)02 Legend Of The Golden Arches03 Louie Louie (At The Royal Albert Hall In London)04 Dog Breath Variations05 Project X excerpt06 Dwarf Nebula Processional March Dwarf Nebula (extended, incl.beginning of Get A Little)07 A Pound For A Brown On The Bus08 Electric Aunt Jemima09 Our Bizarre Relationship (end)10 We Can Shoot You (end)11 If We'd All Been Living In California (slightly extended)12 Ian Underwood Whips It Out (monologue only)13 "All The Way Down The Tonsils"14 The Air15 Mr. Green Genes (w/ spoken intro from We Can Shoot You)15a unknown (probably Right There ?)16 Uncle Meat Variations17 Our Bizarre Relationship ???18 Sleeping In A Jar19 Cops And Buns20 King Kong Itself As Played By The Mothers In A Studio20a King Kong It S Magnificence As Interpreted By Dom Dewild20b King Kong As Motorhead Explains It20c King Kong The Gardner Varieties20d King Kong As Played By 3 Deranged Good Humor TrucksNotes:abbreviations:tf = tapeflip[ = cut at the end] = cut at the beginning][ = cut/flaw in the track~ = fading in/out or connects two or more tracks played like one(medley)-IC = incomplete = added from dif source, complete or partly-4-May 1974, D.A.R. Constitution Hall, Washington DC12 min, SBD, B+Advanced Be Bop Jazz Session (incl. Giant Steps, Little Coquette,Sweet Leilani, Ornithology)It Can't Happen HereHungry Freaks DaddyYou're Probably Wondering Why I'm HereThis version 12:10. The first 1:48 have various problems with thesound: glitches, dropouts.The rest is smooth and could be rated as A-/B+.01 Advanced Be Bop Jazz Session* (7:12)02 It Can't Happen Here (1:53)03 Hungry Freaks Daddy (2:42)04 You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here [incomplete] (0:22)*incl. Giant Steps, Little Coquette, Sweet Leilani, Ornithology;also incl. The Velvet SunriseExact lineage unknown: CDR -- WaveLab (safe mode extraction +tracking) -- Flac (level 8) -- YouFile size: 75.7 MB (flac)-Frank Zappa3-Oct 1968, Tivoli Gardens, Copenhagen, DenmarkAvailable Recordings, according JN:82 min, Aud, B-45 min, SBD, A-Source: 86:21 min, B-Lineage: AUD ? traded CDR EAC (secure mode) wav Audition 1.5(retracked and gaps removed) shntool flac frontend (lvl 7) CDRTaped by: N/ATransfered by: N/ATransfered Edited by: walkFile Size: 458 MB (FLAC)The MOI:Jimmy Carl Black - drums, vocalsRay Collins - vocalsRoy Estrada - bass, vocalsBunk Gardner - woodwindsSandy Hurvitz (Uncle Meat) - vocalsEuclid James Sherwood (Motorhead) - baritone saxophoneArthur Dyer Tripp III - drumsIan Underwood - woodwinds, keyboardsFrank Zappa - guitar, vocals*Don Cherry - trumpet, flute, Guest ( Copenhagen)Setlist:disc 101 improvisations02 Hungry Freaks Daddy03 Bongo Madness04 God Bless America05 King Kong06 improvisations07 Trouble Every Day [08 ] Absolutely Free (including There's A Small Hotel, RockabyeBaby, Teddy Bears' March)disc 209 In The Sky10 The String Quartet (incl Oh No,
