Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election?

2004-11-01 Thread Danny ODare



All this does is prove - yet again!! - the vital importance of scrapping the elctoral college system. Period.

DANNYJim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Brian Winans wrote -

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Yet, the only way this procedure would be needed is if the Electoral College is split 269-269 if an elector switches their vote or abstains. A Republican West Virginia elector has already vowed to switch his vote if Bush wins his state.

Does it trouble anyone else that an elector has already said he will switch his vote? If I'm understanding this right he will be switching it to Kerry but what if it was the other way around? 

Jim L 

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My money would be on a Bush and Edwards administration. Read on:WASHINGTON -- If the presidential election is as close as many expect it to be and neither President George W. Bush or Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry can earn the 270 electoral votes to be elected president, then the U.S. House of Representatives would be called on to choose the winner.The 12th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which was ratified in 1804 in response to the 1801 presidential election when Thomas Jefferson failed to receive an electoral majority, gives the House the responsibility of choosing the president, while the U.S. Senate picks the vice president.Only two times in U.S. history has this happened. The House chose John Quincy Adams instead of Andrew Jackson in 1825 because several third-party candidates sifted electoral votes away from them. In 1837, the Senate was asked to choose the vice president
 after a disputed race before the time that political parties ran on the same ticket.While this scenario is certainly not probable, it is quite possible considering the closeness of the candidates this year.The new president and vice president would be chosen by a joint session of the House and Senate on January 6, 2005 when they officially count the electoral votes for each candidate.If neither candidate receives 270 votes, then Bush would likely be reelected since control of the House is solidly with Republicans.Each of the fifty states receives one vote as prescribed by the 12th Amendment and Republicans have a majority delegation in 30 of those states.Yet, the only way this procedure would be needed is if the Electoral College is split 269-269 if an elector switches their vote or abstains. A Republican West Virginia elector has already vowed to switch his vote if Bush wins his state.Additionally,
 Colorado's ballot initiative that would split that state's electoral votes rather than the usual winner-take-all for the winner of the popular vote could play a role in making the presidential race tighter than expected.Finally, if the Democrats regain control of the U.S. Senate in next week's elections, then they would probably choose Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards to join Bush in the executive branch._Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/For
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Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election?

2004-10-31 Thread Andrew Hickey

Bush will win, because the election's so rigged that even if every
single person in the US voted for Kerry Bush would still come out with
70%...

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[Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election?

2004-10-30 Thread Jim L






I've been hearing about places that actually take bets on the outcome of the 
US presidential election. So I got to thinking about how I would bet if cold 
hard cash was on the line. What do you guy's think? Regardless of who you want 
to win or what you think would be best for the world, what if you had a really 
large amount of cash riding on the outcome? Who would you put your money on to 
win?

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Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election?

2004-10-30 Thread Mark Darling
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Multinational corporations.
Mark

I've been hearing about places that actually take bets on the outcome of the US presidential election. So I got to thinking about how I would bet if cold hard cash was on the line. What do you guy's think? Regardless of who you want to win or what you think would be best for the world, what if you had a really large amount of cash riding on the outcome? Who would you put your money on to win?

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