Re: [zeta-dev] Reasonable restrictions of wiki use

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>>> thanks for your input. I think this is quite valuable. To which degree
>>> do we need to care about taking over stuff from the wiki into our real
>>> docs, if a user without iCLA contributed it?
>>>
>>> Let me give an example: If a user writes a short example code snippet
>>> (whatever 3-5 lines) which we would consider valuable to have in the
>>> real docs, would he need to sign an iCLA?
>
>> I wouldn't worry too much about 3-5 LOC. But it might be easier on all
>> concerned to err on the side of caution.
>
> thats surely the easier and more secure way. However, I doubt that many
> of our users will have signed an iCLA, so our purpose for the wiki might
> be lead ad absurdum somehow.

Are you all speaking about signing a CLA before contributing to a
wiki? I am not sure about all the legal stuff, but is it really
necessary to restrict a wiki so much?

For example at commons.apache.org everybody can write to a wiki.
Changes are mailed to the dev list. If there is something weird devs
could interact.

For my taste I would keep restrictions as low as possible while having
an initial "frame" of the content like Tobias said is a very good
idea. If it does not work out well it can be changed later at any
time.

Christian


Re: [zeta-dev] Reasonable restrictions of wiki use

2010-08-18 Thread Tobias Schlitt
Hi Craig,

On 08/17/2010 09:13 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Tobias Schlitt wrote:
>> On 08/17/2010 08:12 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

>>> Other projects allow wider access to edit wiki pages. The ones I'm aware
>>> of restrict editing to folks who have signed an ICLA. This does two
>>> things:
>>>
>>> 1. It raises the bar for potential wrong-doers (spammers);
>>>
>>> 2. It allows the project to use the ideas in the wiki without worrying
>>> that the contributor didn't intend the wiki comments as a contribution.
>>>
>>> That said, you can restrict wiki edit privileges however you (the
>>> project) want to. I'm just suggesting that you might find it easier to
>>> deal with roles than individuals as a restriction tool.

>> thanks for your input. I think this is quite valuable. To which degree
>> do we need to care about taking over stuff from the wiki into our real
>> docs, if a user without iCLA contributed it?
>>
>> Let me give an example: If a user writes a short example code snippet
>> (whatever 3-5 lines) which we would consider valuable to have in the
>> real docs, would he need to sign an iCLA?

> I wouldn't worry too much about 3-5 LOC. But it might be easier on all
> concerned to err on the side of caution.

thats surely the easier and more secure way. However, I doubt that many
of our users will have signed an iCLA, so our purpose for the wiki might
be lead ad absurdum somehow.

Regards,
Toby
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