Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 11 System Reboots Continuously Because of a ZFS-Related Panic (7191375)

[Tomas Forsman]

On 14 January, 2013 - Cindy Swearingen sent me these 1,0K bytes:

> I believe the bug.oraclecorp.com URL is accessible with a support
> contract, but its difficult for me to test.

Support contract or not, the domain is not exposed to the internet.

> I should have mentioned it. I apologize.
>
> cs
>
> On 01/14/13 14:02, Nico Williams wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Tomas Forsman  wrote:
 https://bug.oraclecorp.com/pls/bug/webbug_print.show?c_rptno=15852599
>>>
>>> Host oraclecorp.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>>>
>>> Would oracle.internal be a better domain name?
>>
>> Things like that cannot be changed easily.  They (Oracle) are stuck
>> with that domainname for the forseeable future.  Also, whoever thought
>> it up probably didn't consider leakage of internal URIs to the
>> outside.  *shrug*
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 11 System Reboots Continuously Because of a ZFS-Related Panic (7191375)

[Cindy Swearingen]

I believe the bug.oraclecorp.com URL is accessible with a support
contract, but its difficult for me to test.

I should have mentioned it. I apologize.

cs

On 01/14/13 14:02, Nico Williams wrote:

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Tomas Forsman  wrote:

https://bug.oraclecorp.com/pls/bug/webbug_print.show?c_rptno=15852599


Host oraclecorp.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Would oracle.internal be a better domain name?


Things like that cannot be changed easily.  They (Oracle) are stuck
with that domainname for the forseeable future.  Also, whoever thought
it up probably didn't consider leakage of internal URIs to the
outside.  *shrug*
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 11 System Reboots Continuously Because of a ZFS-Related Panic (7191375)

[Nico Williams]

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Tomas Forsman  wrote:
>> https://bug.oraclecorp.com/pls/bug/webbug_print.show?c_rptno=15852599
>
> Host oraclecorp.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> Would oracle.internal be a better domain name?

Things like that cannot be changed easily.  They (Oracle) are stuck
with that domainname for the forseeable future.  Also, whoever thought
it up probably didn't consider leakage of internal URIs to the
outside.  *shrug*
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 11 System Reboots Continuously Because of a ZFS-Related Panic (7191375)

[Ian Collins]

Cindy Swearingen wrote:

Hi Jamie,

Yes, that is correct.

The S11u1 version of this bug is:

https://bug.oraclecorp.com/pls/bug/webbug_print.show?c_rptno=15852599

and has this notation which means Solaris 11.1 SRU 3.4:

Changeset pushed to build 0.175.1.3.0.4.0

Hello Cindy,

I really really hope this will be a public update.  Within a week of 
upgrading to 11.1 I hit this bug and I had to rebuild my main pool. I'm 
still restoring backups.


Without this fix, 11.1 is a bomb waiting to go off!

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 11 System Reboots Continuously Because of a ZFS-Related Panic (7191375)

[Tomas Forsman]

On 14 January, 2013 - Cindy Swearingen sent me these 2,3K bytes:

> Hi Jamie,
>
> Yes, that is correct.
>
> The S11u1 version of this bug is:
>
> https://bug.oraclecorp.com/pls/bug/webbug_print.show?c_rptno=15852599

Host oraclecorp.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Would oracle.internal be a better domain name?

> and has this notation which means Solaris 11.1 SRU 3.4:
>
> Changeset pushed to build 0.175.1.3.0.4.0
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cindy
>
> On 01/11/13 19:10, Jamie Krier wrote:
>> It appears this bug has been fixed in Solaris 11.1 SRU 3.4
>>
>> 7191375  15809921SUNBT7191375 metadata rewrites should 
>> coordinate with
>> l2arc
>>
>>
>> Cindy can you confirm?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Richard Elling > > wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Robert Milkowski
>> mailto:rmilkow...@task.gda.pl>> wrote:
>>

 Illumos is not so good at dealing with huge memory systems but
 perhaps
 it is also more stable as well.
>>>
>>> Well, I guess that it depends on your environment, but generally I
>>> would
>>> expect S11 to be more stable if only because the sheer amount of bugs
>>> reported by paid customers and bug fixes by Oracle that Illumos is not
>>> getting (lack of resource, limited usage, etc.).
>>
>> There is a two-edged sword. Software reliability analysis shows that
>> the
>> most reliable software is the software that is oldest and unchanged.
>> But
>> people also want new functionality. So while Oracle has more changes
>> being implemented in Solaris, it is destabilizing while simultaneously
>> improving reliability. Unfortunately, it is hard to get both wins.
>> What is more
>> likely is that new features are being driven into Solaris 11 that are
>> destabilizing. By contrast, the number of new features being added to
>> illumos-gate (not to be confused with illumos-based distros) is
>> relatively
>> modest and in all cases are not gratuitous.
>>   -- richard
>>
>> --
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>> 
>> +1-760-896-4422 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 11 System Reboots Continuously Because of a ZFS-Related Panic (7191375)

[Cindy Swearingen]

Hi Jamie,

Yes, that is correct.

The S11u1 version of this bug is:

https://bug.oraclecorp.com/pls/bug/webbug_print.show?c_rptno=15852599

and has this notation which means Solaris 11.1 SRU 3.4:

Changeset pushed to build 0.175.1.3.0.4.0

Thanks,

Cindy

On 01/11/13 19:10, Jamie Krier wrote:

It appears this bug has been fixed in Solaris 11.1 SRU 3.4

7191375 15809921SUNBT7191375 metadata rewrites should 
coordinate with
l2arc


Cindy can you confirm?

Thanks


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Richard Elling mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Jan 4, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Robert Milkowski
mailto:rmilkow...@task.gda.pl>> wrote:



Illumos is not so good at dealing with huge memory systems but
perhaps
it is also more stable as well.


Well, I guess that it depends on your environment, but generally I
would
expect S11 to be more stable if only because the sheer amount of bugs
reported by paid customers and bug fixes by Oracle that Illumos is not
getting (lack of resource, limited usage, etc.).


There is a two-edged sword. Software reliability analysis shows that
the
most reliable software is the software that is oldest and unchanged.
But
people also want new functionality. So while Oracle has more changes
being implemented in Solaris, it is destabilizing while simultaneously
improving reliability. Unfortunately, it is hard to get both wins.
What is more
likely is that new features are being driven into Solaris 11 that are
destabilizing. By contrast, the number of new features being added to
illumos-gate (not to be confused with illumos-based distros) is
relatively
modest and in all cases are not gratuitous.
  -- richard

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