[zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta
I have a more generall question about intellectual rights around ZFS, when taking a look at the storage solution NexentaStor. Perhaps not necessary to mention, but to be complete: NexentaStor has created a Open Source SAN solution that runs on commodity hardware. Compellent for example has a NAS based upon Nexenta. NexentaStor is based upon the ZFS filesystem and sounds (for that reason) very promising. Now i wonder what the threats are to this and if Oracle is one of them, when reading for example in a Gartner report: Gartner cautions about the uncertain nature of future developments of the open-source ZFS code, as Oracle intends to focus on monetizing ZFS. * And on the Register i read: One outcome is that Oracle agrees to license the relevant patents pertaining to ZFS from NetApp. This would then open the way for Coraid and other ZFS-using storage suppliers to have to license them as well, significantly upsetting their business models unless the license fees are set low. ** I would like to know what grip Oracle (or perhaps NetApp) has upon ZFS. Are parts of the code owned by Oracle? Can they put claims on parts of ZFS? Regards, Hans. * http://www.gartner.com/technology/media-products/reprints/hitachi/vol3/article2/article2.html?WT.ac=us_hp_sp1r21_p=v ** http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/06/netapp_coraid/ -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta
Hi Erik and Kebabber, Thanks for your answers. Do i summarize it right saying: the best conclusion would be then that Nexenta has it's own version of ZFS and has nothing to fear of Oracle other ZFS-developpers but that it's uncertain what NetApp might come up with as the details aren't published? Still i wonder what Gartner means with Oracle monetizing on ZFS... Perhaps that the advantage of ZFS for others like Compellent (and with that, NexentaStor as well) might be become less in future if Oracle speeds up their implementation of it? Regards, Hans -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta
IMHO, oracle would prefer customer go with ZFS appliance with added WebGUI and all the extra support like Analytics, L2ARc and ZIL with SSD etc Last week i've seen mirrored ZIL upon ZEUS SSD in a Boston NexentaStor solution. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta
Thanks all, this cleared up some grey details for me! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta
Hi Brandon, Thanks for the details. Sounds to me like Nexenta is in the lead! Kind regards, Hans Rattink 2011/5/24 Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.com On May 24, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Brandon High wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.com wrote: There are many ZFS implementations, each evolving as the contributors desire. Diversity and innovation is a good thing. ... unless Oracle's zpool v30 is different than Nexenta's v30. It is safe to say Nexenta is unlikely to ever have a pool version 30. We are moving forward with the new versioning method that supercedes the (limited) numbered system of the past. Of course, Oracle broke this first by not implementing version 21 in Solaris 10 :-) -- richard ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
