Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server
Another question: My MoBo has a JMB (363 I think) SATA controller. I know support is included now in sxce, but I don't know for s10U6. I answer myself: I tries S10u6 and the Jmicron AHCI controller is not recognized. I tried the install check CD and it's weird: it lists the controller as supported but does not recognize the disks attached to it. It also does not recognize my rge0 net interface (However I think it does not really work either in sxce) Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server
Hi, If Zone Cloning via ZFS snapshots is the only feature you miss in S10u6, then you should reconsider. Writing a script to implement this yourself will require only a little experimentation. It is the only feature I miss now, because it is the only one I know of, because I don't know exactly which features have been backported to S10U6. Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server
I just found this: http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/whats_new.jsp I lists Solaris 10 features and is a first hint at what features are in. Another question: My MoBo has a JMB (363 I think) SATA controller. I know support is included now in sxce, but I don't know for s10U6. Is there a changelog for S10U6 somewhere like for SXCE ? Thanks, Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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Silly me, I didn't scroll down far enough to see the bug description on the patch readme page. Vincent On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Vincent Boisard [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Have a look at the bugids in the patches for S10U6, like the kernel patch 137137-09. There are lists of all the new patches in the documentation for the release at docs.sun.com. Thank you for the hint, but I can only see the patches and not the bugid description as I don't have any service plan with sun. Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Vincent Boisard wrote: I just found this: http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/whats_new.jsp I lists Solaris 10 features and is a first hint at what features are in. Another question: My MoBo has a JMB (363 I think) SATA controller. I know support is included now in sxce, but I don't know for s10U6. Is there a changelog for S10U6 somewhere like for SXCE ? Have a look at the bugids in the patches for S10U6, like the kernel patch 137137-09. There are lists of all the new patches in the documentation for the release at docs.sun.com. Henrik Johansson http://sparcv9.blogspot.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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Hi, Have a look at the bugids in the patches for S10U6, like the kernel patch 137137-09. There are lists of all the new patches in the documentation for the release at docs.sun.com. Thank you for the hint, but I can only see the patches and not the bugid description as I don't have any service plan with sun. Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has a comparison (at the time) as to what the differences are with the different Solaris versions: http://blogs.sun.com/weber/entry/solaris_opensolaris_nevada_indiana_sxde That's too old to be useful. I agree with you on this OTOH - if you don't know OpenSolaris well enough, you're better off either picking an earlier release that has proven to have very few relevant warts - usually based on a recommendation for other, more experieced, users. Or you could go with the commercial, rock solid release called Solaris U6 (Update 6) recently released. Where can I find advice on these earlier versions with few relevant warts. When I look at forums, I see good and bad for each release. Also, S10U6 does not have features that I need (Zones ZFS cloning). Also, as I have no support contract with sun (home user), I am not sure if I will get patches or not. In any case, load the release you choose, play with it for a week or so, while running the type of apps you intend to run and see if it works for you. After that, consider it production and load up all your precious data. I'll try to do that Also - to add yet another dimension to the decision making process - os2008.11 is due out any day now. I think that this release will be a winner. You can download and eval the Release Candidate from http://www.genunix.org/ (based on 101a). The production release can't be far away. To a large extent, os2008.nn will be a better long-term choice, since it incorporates the new package update facility. So you'll be able to upgrade any problem binaries very easily and with very little of something going very wrong. I'd love to go with os2008.nn, but the zones features are too different. I need sparse zones (and branded zones for linux perhaps). Also, I don't have a fast internet connection, so fetching everything from the web every time I create a zone is a bit of a problem. Anyway, thanks for your help, Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Vincent Boisard [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: OTOH - if you don't know OpenSolaris well enough, you're better off either picking an earlier release that has proven to have very few relevant warts - usually based on a recommendation for other, more experieced, users. Or you could go with the commercial, rock solid release called Solaris U6 (Update 6) recently released. Where can I find advice on these earlier versions with few relevant warts. When I look at forums, I see good and bad for each release. Also, S10U6 does not have features that I need (Zones ZFS cloning). Also, as I have no support contract with sun (home user), I am not sure if I will get patches or not. If Zone Cloning via ZFS snapshots is the only feature you miss in S10u6, then you should reconsider. Writing a script to implement this yourself will require only a little experimentation. -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke My blog: http://initialprogramload.blogspot.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server
No clue. My friend also upgraded to b101. Said it was working awesome - improved network performance, etc. Then he said after a few days, he's decided to downgrade too - too many other weird side effects. This has a comparison (at the time) as to what the differences are with the different Solaris versions: http://blogs.sun.com/weber/entry/solaris_opensolaris_nevada_indiana_sxde On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Vincent Boisard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have an idea if your problem is due to live upgrade or b101 itself ? Vincent On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:06 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on your hardware. I've been stable for the most part on b98. Live upgrade to b101 messed up my networking to nearly a standstill. It stuck even after I nuked the upgrade. I had to reinstall b98. On Nov 13, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Vincent Boisard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your input. Is there somewhere a comparison of the features in the latest SXCE, Solaris10 and Indiana ? Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No clue. My friend also upgraded to b101. Said it was working awesome - improved network performance, etc. Then he said after a few days, he's decided to downgrade too - too many other weird side effects. Any more details available on too many other weird side effects? I've loaded b101 on a box here and it's been idling for about a week or so. But I have yet to load it up with data. This has a comparison (at the time) as to what the differences are with the different Solaris versions: http://blogs.sun.com/weber/entry/solaris_opensolaris_nevada_indiana_sxde That's too old to be useful. The bottom line is that SXCE is good for those who want access to the latest/greatest features and bugfixes - but each version will come with some warts. If you know OpenSolaris well enough, you'll recognize those warts and either live with them or work around them. Or you'll discover that the reported issues don't affect what you are running (in terms of workload) on the box. OTOH - if you don't know OpenSolaris well enough, you're better off either picking an earlier release that has proven to have very few relevant warts - usually based on a recommendation for other, more experieced, users. Or you could go with the commercial, rock solid release called Solaris U6 (Update 6) recently released. In any case, load the release you choose, play with it for a week or so, while running the type of apps you intend to run and see if it works for you. After that, consider it production and load up all your precious data. Also - to add yet another dimension to the decision making process - os2008.11 is due out any day now. I think that this release will be a winner. You can download and eval the Release Candidate from http://www.genunix.org/ (based on 101a). The production release can't be far away. To a large extent, os2008.nn will be a better long-term choice, since it incorporates the new package update facility. So you'll be able to upgrade any problem binaries very easily and with very little of something going very wrong. Choice is Good! :) Regards, -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No clue. My friend also upgraded to b101. Said it was working awesome - improved network performance, etc. Then he said after a few days, he's decided to downgrade too - too many other weird side effects. Any more details available on too many other weird side effects? No details. He IM'ed me after I had talked to him about my own b101 - b98 downgrade. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server
Hi everyone, I will shortly install a ZFS Home Server and I am wondering which version I should install. I will use zones on my server and heavily use zone cloning, so I think it rules out S10U6. I also ruled out Indiana because of the lack of normal zones. So I will be using SXCE. Which version should I use ? I would like something recent for the latest drivers, but I was wondering if there are versions to avoid. Will the lastest one (b101) be stable enough ? Thanks for your help, Vincent ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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Thanks for your input. Is there somewhere a comparison of the features in the latest SXCE, Solaris10 and Indiana ? Vincent On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Vincent Boisard wrote: So I will be using SXCE. Which version should I use ? I would like something recent for the latest drivers, but I was wondering if there are versions to avoid. Will the lastest one (b101) be stable enough ? I've been using b101 for a couple of weeks here with no issues, so yes, that's the one I'd go for. HTH, -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA CEO, My Online Home Inventory URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www.linkedin.com/in/richteer http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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Depends on your hardware. I've been stable for the most part on b98. Live upgrade to b101 messed up my networking to nearly a standstill. It stuck even after I nuked the upgrade. I had to reinstall b98. On Nov 13, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Vincent Boisard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your input. Is there somewhere a comparison of the features in the latest SXCE, Solaris10 and Indiana ? Vincent On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] group.com wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Vincent Boisard wrote: So I will be using SXCE. Which version should I use ? I would like something recent for the latest drivers, but I was wondering if there are versions to avoid. Will the lastest one (b101) be stable enough ? I've been using b101 for a couple of weeks here with no issues, so yes, that's the one I'd go for. HTH, -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA CEO, My Online Home Inventory URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www.linkedin.com/in/richteer http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
