[zfs-discuss] I was going to send you an email

2007-11-18 Thread can you guess?
until I remembered that you said that you were speaking for others as well and 
decided that I'd like to speak to them too.

As I said in a different thread, I really do try to respond to people in the 
manner that they deserve (and believe that in most cases here I have done so):  
even though I recognize that this may be off-putting it's sometimes the only 
way to break through bias and complacency, and since I came to zfs-discuss in 
search of technical interaction rather than a warm, fuzzy feeling of belonging 
I don't see too much of a down-side (unless I've managed to scare off anyone 
who might otherwise have contributed some technical insight, which would be 
unfortunate).

But I do apologize if I've managed to offend any less-rabid bystanders (I was 
beginning to wonder whether there *were* any less-rabid bystanders) in the 
process, since that was not my intent.

- bill
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] I was going to send you an email

2007-11-18 Thread Will Murnane
On Nov 18, 2007 6:34 PM, can you guess? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I said in a different thread, I really do try to respond to people in
 the manner that they deserve
This is the wrong way to approach the problem.  If you have a
legitimate point, make it courteously and respond to criticism nicely.
 I don't care to read the forty or fifty pages of email between you
and members of this list to see who made the first argument ad
hominem, but it's irrelevant.  Whether you started it or responded to
it, you lost any chance of making your point heard when the amount of
flaming exceeded the amount of logical content.

 (I was beginning to wonder whether there *were* any less-rabid bystanders)
Well, there were - I for one would have been interested in criticisms
of ZFS, and comparisons to other systems - but I was so put off by the
other content in your earlier emails that I didn't bother reading the
later ones.  Here's a paragraph from an early email you sent to the
list:

 I'm afraid that you just don't know what you're talking about, Robert
 - and IIRC I've corrected you on this elsewhere, so you have no excuse
 for repeating your misconceptions now.
The adage about attracting more flies with honey than vinegar applies here.

Now I shall bow out of this argument entirely.  If it ceases to be an
argument, though, I shall be interested in seeing what you have to
say.

Will
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