Re: [zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-08-01 Thread Ross
I'd expect that to work personally, although I'd just drop one of your boot 
mirrors in myself.  That leaves the second drive untouched for your other 
server.  It also means that if it works you could just wipe the old snv_70b and 
re-establish the boot mirrors on each server with them.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-08-01 Thread Ross
Wipe the snv_70b disks I meant.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-08-01 Thread Ross
But zfs send/receive is very different to zfs import.  I'm not sure if zfs 
send/receive work across different versions of zfs, I vaguely remember reading 
something about it not working, but can't find anything specific about it right 
now.

I do think a zfs import after booting from the new drives should work fine, and 
it doesn't automatically upgrade the pool, so you can still go back to snv_70b 
if needed.  After all, if zfs import did change the version, the zfs upgrade 
command would be redundant.  See the following lines from the zfs manual:

zpool import [-d dir] [-D] [-f] [-o opts] [-R root] pool | id [newpool] 
Imports a specific pool. A pool can be identified by its name or the numeric 
identifier. If newpool is specified, the pool is imported using the name 
newpool. Otherwise, it is imported with the same name as its exported name.

If a device is removed from a system without running “zpool export” first, the 
device appears as potentially active. It cannot be determined if this was a 
failed export, or whether the device is really in use from another host. To 
import a pool in this state, the -f option is required.

zpool upgrade 
Displays all pools formatted using a different ZFS on-disk version. Older 
versions can continue to be used, but some features may not be available. These 
pools can be upgraded using “zpool upgrade -a”. Pools that are formatted with a 
more recent version are also displayed, although these pools will be 
inaccessible on the system.

Ross

PS.  In your first post you said you had no time to copy the filesystem, so why 
are you trying to use send/receive?  Both rsync and send/receive will take a 
long time to complete.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-08-01 Thread Jorgen Lundman


Ross wrote:
 I do think a zfs import after booting from the new drives should 
  work fine, and it doesn't automatically upgrade the pool,
  so you can still go back to snv_70b if needed.

Alas, it would be downgrade. Which is why I think it will fail.


 
 PS.  In your first post you said you had no time to copy the filesystem, so 
 why are you trying to use send/receive?  Both rsync and send/receive will 
 take a long time to complete.
  
  

zfs send of the /zvol/ufs volume would take 2 days. Currently it panics 
at least once a day. There appears to be no way to resume a half 
transfered zfs send. So, rsyncing smaller bits.

zfs send -i only works if you have a full copy already, which we can't 
get from above.



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Re: [zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-08-01 Thread Jorgen Lundman


Ross wrote:
 Not if you don't upgrade the pool it won't.  ZFS can import and work with an 
 old version of the filesystem fine.  The manual page for zpool upgrade says:
 Older versions can continue to be used
 
 Just import it on Solaris 5/08 without doing the upgrade.  Your ZFS pool will 
 be available and can be served out from the new version.  If you do find any 
 problems (which I wouldn't expect to be honest), you can plug your old 
 snv_70b boot disk in if necessary.

Now/old server is ZFS version 2 zfs. The new boot HDDs/OS, are only ZFS 
version 1. I do not think zfs version 1 will read version 2. I see no 
script talking about converting a version 2 to a version 1.



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Re: [zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-08-01 Thread Ian Collins
Ross wrote:
 Wipe the snv_70b disks I meant.
  
   
What disks?  This message makes no sense without context.

Context free messages are a pain in the arse for those of us who use the
mail list.

Ian
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-08-01 Thread Ross Smith

Sorry Ian, I was posting on the forum and missed the word disks from my 
previous post.  I'm still not used to Sun's mutant cross of a message board / 
mailing list.
 
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[zfs-discuss] Replacing the boot HDDs in x4500

2008-07-31 Thread Jorgen Lundman

We have having some issues in copying the existing data on our Sol 11 
snv_70b x4500 to the new Sol 10 5/08 x4500. With all the panics, and 
crashes, we have had no chance to completely copy a single filesystem. 
(ETA for that is about 48 hours).

What are the chances that I can zpool import all filesystems if I were 
to simply drop in the two mirrored Sol 10 5/08 boot HDDs on the x4500 
and reboot? I assume Sol10 5/08 zpool version would be newer, so in 
theory it would work.

Comments?



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