[zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Jorgen Lundman


Hello list,

We are unfortunately still experiencing some issues regarding our support 
license with Sun, or rather our Sun Vendor.


We need ZFS User quotas. (That's not the zfs file-system quota) which first 
appeared in svn_114.


We would like to run something like svn_117 (don't really care which version 
per-se, that is just the one version we have done the most testing with).


But our Vendor will only support Solaris 10. After weeks of wrangling, they have 
reluctantly agreed to let us run OpenSolaris 2009.06. (Which does not have ZFS 
User quotas).


When I approach Sun-Japan directly I just get told that they don't speak 
English.  When my Japanese colleagues approach Sun-Japan directly, it is 
suggested to us that we stay with our current Vendor.


* Will there be official Solaris 10, or OpenSolaris releases with ZFS User 
quotas? (Will 2010.02 contain ZFS User quotas?)


* Can we get support overseas perhaps, that will let us run a version of Solaris 
with ZFS User quotas? Support generally includes having the ability to replace 
hardware when it dies, and/or, send panic dumps if they happen for future patches.


Internally, we are now discussing returning our 12x x4540, and calling NetApp. I 
would rather not (more work for me).


I understand Sun is probably experiencing some internal turmoil at the moment, 
but it has been rather frustrating for us.


Lund

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Jorgen Lundman lund...@gmo.jp wrote:
 We would like to run something like svn_117 (don't really care which version
 per-se, that is just the one version we have done the most testing with).

 But our Vendor will only support Solaris 10. After weeks of wrangling, they
 have reluctantly agreed to let us run OpenSolaris 2009.06. (Which does not
 have ZFS User quotas).

I though http://www.sun.com/service/opensolaris/ was supposed to be
made for people with your needs?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 28 September, 2009 - Jorgen Lundman sent me these 1,7K bytes:


 Hello list,

 We are unfortunately still experiencing some issues regarding our support 
 license with Sun, or rather our Sun Vendor.

 We need ZFS User quotas. (That's not the zfs file-system quota) which 
 first appeared in svn_114.

 We would like to run something like svn_117 (don't really care which 
 version per-se, that is just the one version we have done the most 
 testing with).

 But our Vendor will only support Solaris 10. After weeks of wrangling, 
 they have reluctantly agreed to let us run OpenSolaris 2009.06. (Which 
 does not have ZFS User quotas).

 When I approach Sun-Japan directly I just get told that they don't speak  
 English.  When my Japanese colleagues approach Sun-Japan directly, it is  
 suggested to us that we stay with our current Vendor.

 * Will there be official Solaris 10, or OpenSolaris releases with ZFS 
 User quotas? (Will 2010.02 contain ZFS User quotas?)

http://sparcv9.blogspot.com/2009/08/solaris-10-update-8-1009-is-comming.html
which is in no way official, says it'll be in 10u8 which should be
coming within a month.

/Tomas
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Enda O'Connor

Hi
Yes Solaris 10/09 ( update 8 ) will contain
6501037 want user/group quotas on zfs

it should be out within a few weeks.

So if they have zpools already installed they can apply 
141444-09/141445-09 ( 10/09 kernel patch ) and post reboot run zpool 
upgrade to go to zpool version 15 ( the process is non reversible by the 
ay ), which contains 6501037. The patches mentioned will be released 
shortly after 10/09 itself ships ( within a few days of 10/09 shipping 
), if applying patches make sure to apply latest rev of 119254/119255 
first ( the patch utilities patch ), and read the README as well for any 
further instructions.


Enda

Tomas Ögren wrote:

On 28 September, 2009 - Jorgen Lundman sent me these 1,7K bytes:


Hello list,

We are unfortunately still experiencing some issues regarding our support 
license with Sun, or rather our Sun Vendor.


We need ZFS User quotas. (That's not the zfs file-system quota) which 
first appeared in svn_114.


We would like to run something like svn_117 (don't really care which 
version per-se, that is just the one version we have done the most 
testing with).


But our Vendor will only support Solaris 10. After weeks of wrangling, 
they have reluctantly agreed to let us run OpenSolaris 2009.06. (Which 
does not have ZFS User quotas).


When I approach Sun-Japan directly I just get told that they don't speak  
English.  When my Japanese colleagues approach Sun-Japan directly, it is  
suggested to us that we stay with our current Vendor.


* Will there be official Solaris 10, or OpenSolaris releases with ZFS 
User quotas? (Will 2010.02 contain ZFS User quotas?)


http://sparcv9.blogspot.com/2009/08/solaris-10-update-8-1009-is-comming.html
which is in no way official, says it'll be in 10u8 which should be
coming within a month.

/Tomas


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Enda O'Connor

Hi
So ship date is 19th October for Solaris 10 10/09 ( update 8 ).

Enda

Enda O'Connor wrote:

Hi
Yes Solaris 10/09 ( update 8 ) will contain
6501037 want user/group quotas on zfs

it should be out within a few weeks.

So if they have zpools already installed they can apply 
141444-09/141445-09 ( 10/09 kernel patch ) and post reboot run zpool 
upgrade to go to zpool version 15 ( the process is non reversible by the 
ay ), which contains 6501037. The patches mentioned will be released 
shortly after 10/09 itself ships ( within a few days of 10/09 shipping 
), if applying patches make sure to apply latest rev of 119254/119255 
first ( the patch utilities patch ), and read the README as well for any 
further instructions.


Enda

Tomas Ögren wrote:

On 28 September, 2009 - Jorgen Lundman sent me these 1,7K bytes:


Hello list,

We are unfortunately still experiencing some issues regarding our 
support license with Sun, or rather our Sun Vendor.


We need ZFS User quotas. (That's not the zfs file-system quota) which 
first appeared in svn_114.


We would like to run something like svn_117 (don't really care which 
version per-se, that is just the one version we have done the most 
testing with).


But our Vendor will only support Solaris 10. After weeks of 
wrangling, they have reluctantly agreed to let us run OpenSolaris 
2009.06. (Which does not have ZFS User quotas).


When I approach Sun-Japan directly I just get told that they don't 
speak  English.  When my Japanese colleagues approach Sun-Japan 
directly, it is  suggested to us that we stay with our current Vendor.


* Will there be official Solaris 10, or OpenSolaris releases with ZFS 
User quotas? (Will 2010.02 contain ZFS User quotas?)


http://sparcv9.blogspot.com/2009/08/solaris-10-update-8-1009-is-comming.html 


which is in no way official, says it'll be in 10u8 which should be
coming within a month.

/Tomas




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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Jorgen Lundman



Tomas Ögren wrote:


http://sparcv9.blogspot.com/2009/08/solaris-10-update-8-1009-is-comming.html
which is in no way official, says it'll be in 10u8 which should be
coming within a month.

/Tomas


That would be perfect. I wonder why I have so much trouble finding information 
about future releases of Solaris.


Thanks

Lund


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Jim Grisanzio

Jorgen Lundman wrote:

When I approach Sun-Japan directly I just get told that they don't speak
English.  When my Japanese colleagues approach Sun-Japan directly, it is
suggested to us that we stay with our current Vendor.


hey ...

I work at Sun Japan in the Yoga office. I can connect you with English 
speakers here. Contact me off list if you are interested.


Also, there are some Japan lists for OpenSolaris you may want to 
subscribe to: The Japan OpenSolaris User Group and The Tokyo OpenSolaris 
User Group. The Japan group is mostly Japanese, but we are trying to 
build an international group in English for the Tokyo OSUG. There are 
bi-lingual westerners and Japanese on both lists, and we have events in 
Yoga as well.


http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ug-tsug (English )
http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ug-jposug (Japanese)

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris License with ZFS USER quotas?

2009-09-28 Thread Masafumi Ohta


On 2009/09/28, at 22:09, Jim Grisanzio wrote:


Jorgen Lundman wrote:
When I approach Sun-Japan directly I just get told that they don't  
speak
English.  When my Japanese colleagues approach Sun-Japan directly,  
it is

suggested to us that we stay with our current Vendor.


hey ...

I work at Sun Japan in the Yoga office. I can connect you with  
English speakers here. Contact me off list if you are interested.


Also, there are some Japan lists for OpenSolaris you may want to  
subscribe to: The Japan OpenSolaris User Group and The Tokyo  
OpenSolaris User Group. The Japan group is mostly Japanese, but we  
are trying to build an international group in English for the Tokyo  
OSUG. There are bi-lingual westerners and Japanese on both lists,  
and we have events in Yoga as well.


http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ug-tsug (English )
http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ug-jposug (Japanese)

Jim
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Hi,

I am a leader of Tokyo OpenSolaris User Group.as Jimgris says,we are  
now trying to build an international group like Tokyo2pointO and Tokyo  
Linux User Group(TLUG)
You can ask us in English in our tsug mailing list,especially issue in  
Japan - OpenSolaris support program in Japan.


We hope we would be your help.

Thanks,

Masafumi Ohta
a Leader of Tokyo OpenSolaris User Group
mailto:masafumi.o...@gmail.com
http://www.twitter.com/masafumi_ohta



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