Re: [zfs-discuss] mirroring ZIL device

2009-11-23 Thread Scott Meilicke
# 1. It may help to use 15k disks as the zil. When I tested using three 15k 
disks striped as my zil, it made my workload go slower, even though it seems 
like it should have been faster. My suggestion is to test it out, and see if it 
helps.

#3. You may get good performance with an inexpensive SSD because the SSD should 
have fast random writes, but probably not fast sequential writes. But I would 
test it first against your anticipated workload. :) An Intel 32G X25-E runs 
just shy of $400, and they are pretty speedy. I don't know if that would fit 
your budget. There is also some concern about losing power and having the X25 
RAM cache disappear during a write. 

-Scott
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[zfs-discuss] mirroring ZIL device

2009-11-22 Thread Michael DeMan (OA)
Hi All,

Sorry if this question is already addressed in the documentation, but I am 
still unclear about some details ZIL devices.

I am looking at provisioning some network attached storage with ZFS on the back 
end.

In the interests of the 'inexpensive' part of the acronym 'RAID', I am looking 
at using SATA drives for the primary storage striped over multiple mirrors.

I will be doing the operating system on a separate set of traditionally 
mirrored 15K SAS disks (formatted UFS2).

In the interests of performance given the SATA drives for the main storage, I 
am considering provisioning a separate ZIL device, again on 15K SAS.

For the ZIL device, my understanding is that if it fails, everything still 
'just works'.  Meanwhile, I tend to be a bit paranoid at times and am curious 
about having the ZIL device be mirrored.

I suppose with hardware RAID, it would be obvious that I could just mirror two 
15K SAS drives that way, export it out as a single device to the operating 
system and I am clear.


My question(s) are:

#1.  Is it worthwhile to allocate a fast ZIL device to help out with writes to 
the sluggish SATA main storage drives?  It seems to me that probably this kind 
of case might be exactly what ZIL is for?

#2.  Is it possible for me to mirror those two 15K SAS drives I want to use for 
ZIL directly within ZFS?  From the documentation, it seems not, and if I want 
to go this way, I'll want hardware RAID1.

#3.  Does anybody have any field/production information about just using 
low-end (but newer generation) SATA SSDs for the ZIL device?  My concern here 
is obviously about performance degradation over time with SSD, particularly as 
an SSD device.  (Again, small budget, I can't afford any of the fancy SSD 
stuff).


Thanks,

- Mike


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