Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9 with zpool version 22, but no DEDUP (version 21 reserved)

2010-09-12 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
 If not, will any possible problems be avoided if I remove (transfer
 data away from) any filesystems with dedup=on ?

I would think re-copying data from a deduped dataset to a non-deduped dataset 
will fix it, yes. But then, who knows, perhaps Oracle will fix dedup and make 
it usable one day...

Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9 with zpool version 22, but no DEDUP (version 21 reserved)

2010-09-12 Thread Richard Elling
On Sep 12, 2010, at 3:47 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.net wrote:

 If not, will any possible problems be avoided if I remove (transfer
 data away from) any filesystems with dedup=on ?
 
 I would think re-copying data from a deduped dataset to a non-deduped dataset 
 will fix it, yes. But then, who knows, perhaps Oracle will fix dedup and make 
 it usable one day...

Dedup changes large I/Os into small I/Os. If you expect dedup to change
large I/Os into no I/Os, then you will be unhappy. Thus, the best solution for
dedup is one which can handle large amounts of small I/Os.
 -- richard


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9 with zpool version 22, but no DEDUP (version 21 reserved)

2010-09-11 Thread Prabahar Jeyaram
 
 What, if you will use Zpools created with OSOL and Dedup on Solaris 10u9
 

Not supported. You are on your own, if you encounter any issues.

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On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Hans Foertsch wrote:

 bash-3.00# uname -a
 SunOS testxx10 5.10 Generic_142910-17 i86pc i386 i86pc
 
 bash-3.00# zpool upgrade -v
 This system is currently running ZFS pool version 22.
 
 The following versions are supported:
 
 VER  DESCRIPTION
 ---  
 1   Initial ZFS version
 2   Ditto blocks (replicated metadata)
 3   Hot spares and double parity RAID-Z
 4   zpool history
 5   Compression using the gzip algorithm
 6   bootfs pool property
 7   Separate intent log devices
 8   Delegated administration
 9   refquota and refreservation properties
 10  Cache devices
 11  Improved scrub performance
 12  Snapshot properties
 13  snapused property
 14  passthrough-x aclinherit
 15  user/group space accounting
 16  stmf property support
 17  Triple-parity RAID-Z
 18  Snapshot user holds
 19  Log device removal
 20  Compression using zle (zero-length encoding)
 21  Reserved
 22  Received properties
 
 For more information on a particular version, including supported releases,
 see the ZFS Administration Guide.
 
 this is an interesting condition..
 
 What, if you will use Zpools created with OSOL and Dedup on Solaris 10u9
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9 with zpool version 22, but no DEDUP (version 21 reserved)

2010-09-11 Thread P-O Yliniemi

 Will dedup ever be supported on ZFS/Solaris ?

If not, will any possible problems be avoided if I remove (transfer data 
away from) any filesystems with dedup=on ?


/PeO

Prabahar Jeyaram skrev 2010-09-11 18:39:

What, if you will use Zpools created with OSOL and Dedup on Solaris 10u9


Not supported. You are on your own, if you encounter any issues.

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On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Hans Foertsch wrote:


bash-3.00# uname -a
SunOS testxx10 5.10 Generic_142910-17 i86pc i386 i86pc

bash-3.00# zpool upgrade -v
This system is currently running ZFS pool version 22.

The following versions are supported:

VER  DESCRIPTION
---  
1   Initial ZFS version
2   Ditto blocks (replicated metadata)
3   Hot spares and double parity RAID-Z
4   zpool history
5   Compression using the gzip algorithm
6   bootfs pool property
7   Separate intent log devices
8   Delegated administration
9   refquota and refreservation properties
10  Cache devices
11  Improved scrub performance
12  Snapshot properties
13  snapused property
14  passthrough-x aclinherit
15  user/group space accounting
16  stmf property support
17  Triple-parity RAID-Z
18  Snapshot user holds
19  Log device removal
20  Compression using zle (zero-length encoding)
21  Reserved
22  Received properties

For more information on a particular version, including supported releases,
see the ZFS Administration Guide.

this is an interesting condition..

What, if you will use Zpools created with OSOL and Dedup on Solaris 10u9

Hans Foertsch
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9 with zpool version 22, but no DEDUP (version 21 reserved)

2010-09-11 Thread Prabahar Jeyaram

On Sep 11, 2010, at 6:04 PM, P-O Yliniemi wrote:

 Will dedup ever be supported on ZFS/Solaris ?
 

Yes in the next major release of Solaris.

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 If not, will any possible problems be avoided if I remove (transfer data away 
 from) any filesystems with dedup=on ?
 
 /PeO
 
 Prabahar Jeyaram skrev 2010-09-11 18:39:
 What, if you will use Zpools created with OSOL and Dedup on Solaris 10u9
 
 Not supported. You are on your own, if you encounter any issues.
 
 --
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 On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Hans Foertsch wrote:
 
 bash-3.00# uname -a
 SunOS testxx10 5.10 Generic_142910-17 i86pc i386 i86pc
 
 bash-3.00# zpool upgrade -v
 This system is currently running ZFS pool version 22.
 
 The following versions are supported:
 
 VER  DESCRIPTION
 ---  
 1   Initial ZFS version
 2   Ditto blocks (replicated metadata)
 3   Hot spares and double parity RAID-Z
 4   zpool history
 5   Compression using the gzip algorithm
 6   bootfs pool property
 7   Separate intent log devices
 8   Delegated administration
 9   refquota and refreservation properties
 10  Cache devices
 11  Improved scrub performance
 12  Snapshot properties
 13  snapused property
 14  passthrough-x aclinherit
 15  user/group space accounting
 16  stmf property support
 17  Triple-parity RAID-Z
 18  Snapshot user holds
 19  Log device removal
 20  Compression using zle (zero-length encoding)
 21  Reserved
 22  Received properties
 
 For more information on a particular version, including supported releases,
 see the ZFS Administration Guide.
 
 this is an interesting condition..
 
 What, if you will use Zpools created with OSOL and Dedup on Solaris 10u9
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9

2010-09-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
 From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
 boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of David Magda
 
 The 9/10 Update appears to have been released. Some of the more
 noticeable
 ZFS stuff that made it in:
 
 More at:
 
 http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1840/gijtg

Awesome!  Thank you.  :-)
Log device removal in particular, I feel is very important.  (Got bit by
that one.)

Now when is dedup going to be ready?   ;-)

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9

2010-09-08 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 08 September, 2010 - Edward Ned Harvey sent me these 0,6K bytes:

  From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
  boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of David Magda
  
  The 9/10 Update appears to have been released. Some of the more
  noticeable
  ZFS stuff that made it in:
  
  More at:
  
  http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1840/gijtg
 
 Awesome!  Thank you.  :-)
 Log device removal in particular, I feel is very important.  (Got bit by
 that one.)
 
 Now when is dedup going to be ready?   ;-)

It's not in U9 at least:
...
 16  stmf property support
 17  Triple-parity RAID-Z
 18  Snapshot user holds
 19  Log device removal
 20  Compression using zle (zero-length encoding)
 21  Reserved
 22  Received properties
...

scratchy:~# zfs create -o dedup=on kaka/kex
cannot create 'kaka/kex': 'dedup' is readonly
scratchy:~# zfs set dedup=on kaka
cannot set property for 'kaka': 'dedup' is readonly

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9

2010-09-08 Thread David Magda
On Wed, September 8, 2010 09:46, Tomas Ögren wrote:
 On 08 September, 2010 - Edward Ned Harvey sent me these 0,6K bytes:

 Now when is dedup going to be ready?   ;-)

 It's not in U9 at least:
 ...
  16  stmf property support
  17  Triple-parity RAID-Z
  18  Snapshot user holds
  19  Log device removal
  20  Compression using zle (zero-length encoding)
  21  Reserved
  22  Received properties
 ...

That Reserved is telling, as that's when de-dupe was integrated:

http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/21

I guess a bit more work needs to be done on it before back porting to
Solaris-proper occurs. Some of the stuff in ZFSv20 also has links to
de-dupe according to its Hub page: I'm guessing ZLE is used to a certain
extent in de-dupe.

I take it that ZLE is a form of run-length encoding.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9

2010-09-08 Thread Frank Cusack

On 9/8/10 9:32 AM -0400 Edward Ned Harvey wrote:

From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of David Magda

The 9/10 Update appears to have been released. Some of the more
noticeable
ZFS stuff that made it in:

More at:

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1840/gijtg


Awesome!  Thank you.  :-)
Log device removal in particular, I feel is very important.  (Got bit by
that one.)


suh-weet.  Hopefully zfs attach on removable media (pen drives) works
in U9 as well.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10u9

2010-09-08 Thread DeirdréŽ Straughan
For those more audio-visually inclined, there's a series of short videos 
on http://blogs.sun.com/video/ with George Wilson discussing what's new.


Frank Cusack wrote:

On 9/8/10 9:32 AM -0400 Edward Ned Harvey wrote:

From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of David Magda

The 9/10 Update appears to have been released. Some of the more
noticeable
ZFS stuff that made it in:

More at:

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1840/gijtg


Awesome!  Thank you.  :-)
Log device removal in particular, I feel is very important.  (Got bit by
that one.)


suh-weet.  Hopefully zfs attach on removable media (pen drives) works
in U9 as well.
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