RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
At 04:11 PM 11/18/2003 -0700, Uncle Tom wrote: The wise and venerable Till explains: Realizing that it was satire really helped, I stopped being offended by the seriousness of some of the absurdities. If that stuff is satire then why am I not allowed to guffaw loudly at all the appropriate places (virtually every line) during the movies? Those movies, to me are almost as funny as Airplane. But nobody else is laughing, and those of the female persuasion in my household don't appreciate my noisy enjoyment. What gives? Till gets in trouble for his obvious great mirth also. The vicar, what's his name, ah ... Mr Collins, is so funny that we can't help but guffaw. And Mr Bingley's brother-in-law, zonked out on the settle, is too funny for words. Especially combined with the only memorable line that he has, She prefers ragout, how very singular! or something to that effect. But Collins takes the buffoonery cake for sure. And the mother, what a hoot. Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
At 11:30 PM 11/18/2003 +, St Stephen wrote: Hey, I'm Tom Bombadil, Tommy Bom-bom-ba-dil-lo! My head is a sieve, and my brain is like Bril-lo! I dance and I sing, and I sing and I dance! I'm a jolly old godling in search of my pants! You've certainly caught the essence, if not quite the right words. guffaw Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] A View From Massachusetts
Friends: Just skimmed through reports regards the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's decision that gay marriage is constitutional. As you might imagine, the decision earned banner headlines across the front page of the comparatively sedate Boston Globe, which devoted four full pages inside to the issue, plus the lead editorial and a significant op-ed piece. Naturally, it is the talk of talk-show stations this morning. Perhaps a harbinger of the bumpy road ahead, the ultra conservative hosts of a program I tune into from time to time were split on the decision: the discussion between them was heated and getting personal...and the callers only seemed to be throwing gasoline on the blaze. Observations so far: 1. Although the local rags have gotten reactions from virtually every religious group in the Commonwealth, it failed to get a single reaction from The Mormon Church. This is quite odd, given that the governor is a Mormon. 2. The decision is far from law, although Cambridge is already discussing the possibility of summarily adopting a local ordinance sanctioning gay marriages. Obviously, this could/should encounter some legal challenges during the 180 stay of the SJC's decision. 3. Romney has already proposed a Constitutional Ammendment that would specificially forbid gay marriages and would define marriage consistent with the ammendments the church has promoted in other states: one man and one woman. It seems likely that such an ammendment would be adopted by the state legislature. The vote would be breathtakingly close, I think. 4. Should a referendum ensue (essential if a constitutional ammendment forbidding homosexual marriage is approved by the legislature), it will prove to be highly devisive in the commonwealth. I have no idea which side would prevail. The voting would be close, no matter what. 5. The is not a Republican vs. Democrat issue. Yet. All but one of the people on the SJC are Republican appointees. And, several key openly gay legislators and political leaders are Republicans, yet it's unclear where they stand on the decision. One seemed to waffle quite a bit this morning. 6. One wonders how long it will be before the Mormon Church emerges as a major factor/player in all of this, given its leadership of efforts to get states to adopt ammendments defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman. When it does, I suspect I will suffer from Yogi Berra disease: deja vous all over again. 7. Depending on how this plays out, it could either launch Mitt to center stage nationally or it could sink him. If he were cautious, he'd lie low and let the matter sort itself out. So far, he's way, way out front. And, his rhetoric is quite sharp, forceful and passionate (Mitt is not known to be a particularly passionate kind of guy). His leadership may also fully repair whatever bridges he torched in Zion back in 1992 when he slipped into the pro-choice camp back during his ill-fated run against Teddy. I realize he did himself brown with the Olympics...but it's likely that some doubts still linger. This is going to get a lot nastier. And, if you are wont to get your trousers in a knot over the issue of separation between church and state in Utah, let me offer this advice: You ain't seen nuttin yet. RB Scott Writing in English is the most ingenious torture ever devised for sins committed in previous lives. James Joyce === // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
The ever commendable, praiseworthy, laudable, admirable, precious, estimable and venerable Till wrote: At 07:49 AM 11/19/2003 -0700, St Stephen wrote: At 04:47 AM 11/19/2003, The elfen Till wrote: Till gets in trouble for his obvious great mirth . . . And I always get in trouble for my obvious great girth. And Till started out in trouble with his obvious great birth Till, who grew up being labeled a mistake But now is enjoyed for his obvious great worth. Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] A View From Massachusetts
In 1968 I arrived in the French mission. It was August and the country was in a terrible turmoil from riots arising from great labor and political unrest. The mission was also in some distress as the mission president had been in a serious car accident a few months before. His wife had been killed and he had been sent state-side to recover from his own grievous physical injuries. While he was away the missionaries were basically left in the hands of his APs. One of those was Mitt Romney. That was my first introduction to him. Soon after I arrived he pointed out an article in the Church News about a certain Jim Matkin who had received some award, scholarship or graduated at the top of his class from Harvard or something like that. I acknowledged that the subject of the article was my brother. Mitt expressed great empathy for me, telling me how he also had an over achieving older brother. We shared some of the highlights of growing up in that sort of shadow. It was a very personal exchange between a very green missionary and a seasoned missionary who had the unusual position of being a de facto mission president at age 20 or so. He told me a couple of other stories and I don't suppose he even remembers me, but I remembered him, both because of his rather famous heritage and because he was kind enough to take an interest in my personal circumstances. Now the irony, of course, is that my brother went on to do a lot of very important and public things and I never have and Mitt Romney's brother has never come to my notice, but, of course, Mitt has made a great mark on the political landscape, and seems destined to make an even great impact before he's done. So I follow his progress with some interest. In the spirit of the late Marc Schindler, I will conclude this post with a further Shaggy Dog story about Mitt. Later on I learned that he had been in one of the same cities that I served in. Nantes, I think and he told me this story when he came to visit. It seems it was winter when he was serving in Nantes and outside of the apartment a cat had been run over in the street and was mortally wounded and frozen to the cobble stones but still suffering and yowling. So young Mitt decided the humane thing to do was to put the cat out of its misery, so he took a hammer and went out into the street to dispatch it. As he raised his arm to strike the cat he noticed a crowd beginning to gather and by the time he was finished there was quite an audience, and he supposed, no one guessed that this was not just an act of supreme violence against a defenseless animal. He told it much better than I have, weaving in his Americaness in a foreign land and all that. He knew how to disarm you by telling a story on himself, that's for sure. I hope he comes out of this gay marriage thing with some pleasant stories to tell. He's brilliant, personable, and considerate, and the Lord trusts him. At least He did in 1968. I suspect he has the same characteristics today, only more highly developed. Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] A View From Massachusetts
If I recall, Mitt was very nearly killed himself in the accident that injured the French mission president and killed his wife. Scott Romney, Mitt's older brother, has done well for himself, but not in the public arena although his wife, his ex-wife, was a candidate for the U.S. Senate a number of years back. -Original Message- From: Tom Matkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] A View From Massachusetts In 1968 I arrived in the French mission. It was August and the country was in a terrible turmoil from riots arising from great labor and political unrest. The mission was also in some distress as the mission president had been in a serious car accident a few months before. His wife had been killed and he had been sent state-side to recover from his own grievous physical injuries. While he was away the missionaries were basically left in the hands of his APs. One of those was Mitt Romney. That was my first introduction to him. Soon after I arrived he pointed out an article in the Church News about a certain Jim Matkin who had received some award, scholarship or graduated at the top of his class from Harvard or something like that. I acknowledged that the subject of the article was my brother. Mitt expressed great empathy for me, telling me how he also had an over achieving older brother. We shared some of the highlights of growing up in that sort of shadow. It was a very personal exchange between a very green missionary and a seasoned missionary who had the unusual position of being a de facto mission president at age 20 or so. He told me a couple of other stories and I don't suppose he even remembers me, but I remembered him, both because of his rather famous heritage and because he was kind enough to take an interest in my personal circumstances. Now the irony, of course, is that my brother went on to do a lot of very important and public things and I never have and Mitt Romney's brother has never come to my notice, but, of course, Mitt has made a great mark on the political landscape, and seems destined to make an even great impact before he's done. So I follow his progress with some interest. In the spirit of the late Marc Schindler, I will conclude this post with a further Shaggy Dog story about Mitt. Later on I learned that he had been in one of the same cities that I served in. Nantes, I think and he told me this story when he came to visit. It seems it was winter when he was serving in Nantes and outside of the apartment a cat had been run over in the street and was mortally wounded and frozen to the cobble stones but still suffering and yowling. So young Mitt decided the humane thing to do was to put the cat out of its misery, so he took a hammer and went out into the street to dispatch it. As he raised his arm to strike the cat he noticed a crowd beginning to gather and by the time he was finished there was quite an audience, and he supposed, no one guessed that this was not just an act of supreme violence against a defenseless animal. He told it much better than I have, weaving in his Americaness in a foreign land and all that. He knew how to disarm you by telling a story on himself, that's for sure. I hope he comes out of this gay marriage thing with some pleasant stories to tell. He's brilliant, personable, and considerate, and the Lord trusts him. At least He did in 1968. I suspect he has the same characteristics today, only more highly developed. Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// // /// // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Anybody else hear about this??
Hey Zionisti: It appears that the FCC has approved the use of the F word as an adjective. . .below is a link to the Miami Herald. What do you think about this? Was it only a matter of time? val http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/6954210.htm .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Mozart Forever
I have found an incredible Internet destination for streaming audio. It is a broadcaster in Europe that streams Mozart 24 hours a day. However, to access the broadcast, go to http://www.live365.com and click on Classical. Then look down the list for Mozart forever, always. I am so happy about finding this. There seems to be a lot of other good stuff at this Internet address too. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === While we cannot agree with others on certain matters, we must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly, soft-spoken, neighborly, and understanding. (President Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2003) === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
