RE: [ZION] Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-03-05 Thread Gerald Smith
It means that no legal document can require marriage to also apply to 
same sex or other couplings.

This doesn't disallow unions for them, just proscribes that the term and 
form of marriage be saved for man and woman.
Gary


Jonathan Scott wrote:
 
 Neither this Constitution or the constitution of any State, nor 
 state or federal law, shall be construed to require that marital 
 status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried 
 couples or groups.
 
 Sorry, but can someone tell me what this part means?
 -- 
 Jonathan Scott



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[ZION] Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-03-04 Thread John W. Redelfs
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.J.RES.56:

Congresswoman Marilyn Musgrave, R-Colo., has introduced the Federal 
Marriage Amendment (H.J. Res. 56) as a proposed constitutional amendment, 
which will remove the definition of marriage from the reach of all 
legislatures and courts permanently.

Text:  SECTION 1. Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the 
union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution or the constitution 
of any State, nor state or federal law, shall be construed to require that 
marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried 
couples or groups.
---

Question:  Is this the amendment, introduced in May of 2003, that President 
Bush is asking Congress to send out to the states?  Or is there some other 
federal marriage amendment with different wording that is being promoted?

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Re: [ZION] Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-03-04 Thread Harold Stuart
On Mar 4, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Jonathan Scott wrote:

Neither this Constitution or the constitution of any State,
Translation:  Sorry, activist judges, you have to follow these rules.

nor state or federal law,
Translation:  Sorry, Congress and state legislatures, you can't change 
this either.

shall be construed
Translation:  You can't read this to promote your society destroying 
cancers.

to require that marital status
Translation:  Marriage says what this amendment says it does.  No less, 
no more.

or the legal incidents thereof
Translation:  Marriage is special.  Hands off.

be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups.
Anything other than marriage between man and wife is not marriage.  
Polygamy, polyandry, homosexual relationships, etc., are not 
marriage.  Unless people are married, they can't get the benefits of 
marriage.

Sorry, but can someone tell me what this part means?
--
Jonathan Scott
Harold Stuart

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Re: [ZION] Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-03-04 Thread Jonathan Scott
On Mar 4, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Jonathan Scott wrote:

Neither this Constitution or the constitution of any State,
Translation:  Sorry, activist judges, you have to follow these rules.

nor state or federal law,
Translation:  Sorry, Congress and state legislatures, you can't 
change this either.

shall be construed
Translation:  You can't read this to promote your society destroying cancers.

to require that marital status
Translation:  Marriage says what this amendment says it does.  No 
less, no more.

or the legal incidents thereof
Translation:  Marriage is special.  Hands off.

be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups.
Anything other than marriage between man and wife is not marriage. 
Polygamy, polyandry, homosexual relationships, etc., are not 
marriage.  Unless people are married, they can't get the benefits of 
marriage.

Sorry, but can someone tell me what this part means?
--
Jonathan Scott
Harold Stuart
Groovy.  Thanks.
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Jonathan Scott
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