Re: [zones-discuss] Defaultrouter problem?

2009-09-27 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM, James Carlson  wrote:
> Stefano Pini wrote:
>> The steps above configure perfectly all the 9 NGZ and they run well.
>> The problem is on the Global Zone:
>> the clients that use GZ to manage the system get diconnected regularly
>> or sometimes can't connect!
>> When that happens, trying traceroute to clients from GZ console seems
>> that it uses a bad defrouter, the one on another vlan, not the right
>> one!!! (for example 10.1.117.254 on bge17000 insted of 10.1.115.254 on
>> bge15000)
>
> When you're in the global zone, all of those interfaces, subnets and
> default routes are the same.  There's no "special" one reserved only for
> the global zone's use.  The global zone can (and will!) use any of them.
>
> If they're not actually usable by the global zone, then you've got a
> problem.
>
> Possible solutions include:
>
>  - Use exclusive stack zones instead.  If you do that, though, you
>    won't be able to have groups of zones sharing a single interface.
>    (You could do something like this with VNICs, but not on S10, as
>    S10 doesn't have those.)
>
>  - Direct the traffic originating from the global zone using IP Filter.
>    You could filter based on source address and use the "on" keyword to
>    direct that traffic to go out via a particular interface, just as
>    your desired default route would do (if it worked).
>
>  - Stop using default routes, and use network specific routes.  If the
>    networks that the global zone must reach are distinct from the ones
>    that the non-global zones must reach, then you should be able to
>    come up with a set of routes that will direct traffic appropriately
>    based on remote address.  (A routing protocol may help.)
>
>  - Modify your default routers so that they know how to deal with
>    traffic from the global zone.

The standard deployment mechanism that I have been using for 3+ years
involves having the global zone and non-global zones on different
subnets.  In my case, I use link-based IPMP and as such there are no
global zone interfaces that are up on the networks that the global
zone is not supposed to use.  I have had absolutely no problems like
those described by Stefano with this configuration, despite having a
sizable deployment.  As such, I know that either there is a workable
configuration or there is a regression.

Note that I have had problems with this configuration WRT zone
interfaces becoming the primary(? - that is, "not a virtual") IP on a
given NIC.  Those problems should no longer be a problem.  Also, prior
to the defaultrouter property on zone network interfaces, it also
required some customization to the zone boot process such that after
the first zone on a network plumbed its address, I would then have to
add the new default route.

-- 
Mike Gerdts
http://mgerdts.blogspot.com/
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Re: [zones-discuss] Defaultrouter problem?

2009-09-27 Thread James Carlson
Stefano Pini wrote:
> The steps above configure perfectly all the 9 NGZ and they run well.
> The problem is on the Global Zone:
> the clients that use GZ to manage the system get diconnected regularly
> or sometimes can't connect!
> When that happens, trying traceroute to clients from GZ console seems
> that it uses a bad defrouter, the one on another vlan, not the right
> one!!! (for example 10.1.117.254 on bge17000 insted of 10.1.115.254 on
> bge15000)

When you're in the global zone, all of those interfaces, subnets and
default routes are the same.  There's no "special" one reserved only for
the global zone's use.  The global zone can (and will!) use any of them.

If they're not actually usable by the global zone, then you've got a
problem.

Possible solutions include:

  - Use exclusive stack zones instead.  If you do that, though, you
won't be able to have groups of zones sharing a single interface.
(You could do something like this with VNICs, but not on S10, as
S10 doesn't have those.)

  - Direct the traffic originating from the global zone using IP Filter.
You could filter based on source address and use the "on" keyword to
direct that traffic to go out via a particular interface, just as
your desired default route would do (if it worked).

  - Stop using default routes, and use network specific routes.  If the
networks that the global zone must reach are distinct from the ones
that the non-global zones must reach, then you should be able to
come up with a set of routes that will direct traffic appropriately
based on remote address.  (A routing protocol may help.)

  - Modify your default routers so that they know how to deal with
traffic from the global zone.

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[zones-discuss] Defaultrouter problem?

2009-09-27 Thread Stefano Pini


Hi all,
I'm at customer site to configure an m8000 with 9 zones and Solaris 10  
U7 fresh installation with the latest kernel patch (141414-10)
The domain uses only 2 nics (bge0 and nxge0) configured in C class  
with vlan tagging and ipmp active-active:


bge15000 + nxge15000 ==> ipmp15 with defrouter 10.1.115.254
bge16000 + nxge16000 ==> ipmp16 with defrouter 10.1.116.254
bge17000 + nxge17000 ==> ipmp17 with defrouter 10.1.117.254
bge18000 + nxge18000 ==> ipmp18 with defrouter 10.1.118.254

GZ  ==> ipmp15
NGZ 1 to 3  ==> ipmp18
NGZ 4 to 6  ==> ipmp38
NGZ 7 to 9  ==> ipmp39

How can we see the configuration above need 4 defrouters, one for the  
GZ and three for the NGZ

Here's the output of 'netstat -rn' after the boot of all zones:

Routing Table: IPv4
 Destination   Gateway   Flags  Ref Use  
Interface
  - - --  
-

default  10.1.115.254 UG1  0
default  10.1.116.254 UG1  1  
bge16000
default  10.1.117.254 UG1  2  
bge17000
default  10.1.118.254 UG1  2  
bge18000
139.164.63.0 10.1.115.25  U 1  1  
bge15000
224.0.0.010.1.115.25  U 1  0  
bge15000

127.0.0.1127.0.0.1UH1 42 lo0


The steps above configure perfectly all the 9 NGZ and they run well.
The problem is on the Global Zone:
the clients that use GZ to manage the system get diconnected regularly  
or sometimes can't connect!
When that happens, trying traceroute to clients from GZ console seems  
that it uses a bad defrouter, the one on another vlan, not the right  
one!!! (for example 10.1.117.254 on bge17000 insted of 10.1.115.254 on  
bge15000)


I didn't find a way to make it run correctly.

I've tryied to set a fixed route in GZ to the clients network and it  
seems to go...
but in this way the NGZ can't reach clients because they use the wrong  
default router to contact the right network.


I've followed all the procedures and the best practices...

Any idea how to configure defrouter in GZ and to make it run?

Best regards,
Stefano


Stefano Pini
Senior Technical Specialist at SUN Microsystems Spa
Viale Fulvio Testi 327 20162 Milano Italy
Contact | stefano.p...@sun.com - www.sun.com/italy

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