Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-31 Thread Karl G. Ulbrich

Quoting Stuart 'Zen' Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
...
 you could expose an IMAP folder as Zope objects. You then never have
 to worry about transporting them into Zope, as they will just magically
 be available.

I like this -- keep the mail store separate and you never have to worry
if Zope can c\keep up with your email load.  Come to think of it, if
your MTA stored messages in MailDir format (1 msg=1 file), you might
get close to this today with LocalFS.  Hmm.

Karl

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Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-30 Thread Karl G. Ulbrich

  Yup, this sounds like mail-in content to me, which is what I'm after :-)

If the goal is mail-in content, I'm not sure I understand IMAP to be
anything approaching what you want:  IMAP doesn't ACCEPT messages,
at least not any of the IMAP servers I've seen, it serves messages
up to clients (one of which could be Zope, like WorldPilot does).

MailMan supports external archivers (how, I don't know, just saw it 
mentioned), and with the right archiver plugged in, that would 
give you the capability to archive email lists however you wanted.

Also, I saw mention of someone using a script to archive msgs
via WebDAV from mailman.  The same sort of script could be used 
with any inbound MTA (postfix, qmail, sendmail, exim, etc...).

Here's a URL to the post in Mailman-Developers:
http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2000-February/001826.html
 I have written an archiver that uses WebDAV to archive messages [with or  
 without decoded attachments] to a WebDAV enabled web server.  I'm currently  
 using Apache, but there is no reason why it shouldn't work "out of the box"  
 with Zope (Zope has a WebDAV enabler).
 
 Email if you want patches/code... it works *very* well.  We will be going into  
 full production with it in the next week [www.bebusy.com].

A webdav-aware script, without mailman, could give you very simple
mail-in access to Zope.  With Mailman, a full alternative archiver.

I'm just getting started with Zope, so I won't be coding this up, but
hopefully this is enough for someone else to go on.

Also: I'd like to voice some opposition to expending the effort to 
turn Zope into a full-blown SMTP MTA -- that's a lot of effort to
down the "not-invented-here" path, complete with its' own security
issues, etc, to be tackled.  Building on other mail systems with 
proven scaleability (i.e. what happens when your Zope store is getting
100,000 message an hour?) makes more sense to me.  Seems to me that
tools to integrate Zope with existing mail tools would see the widest use.

Thanks,

Karl

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